Saturday 4th & Sunday 5th April 2020

Post by **refitman** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 9:16 am

Morning all.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:23 am

Morning all.

Back from Sainsbury's - no queue to get in!
M&S - no queue again.

T/tolls on the shelves and some pasta although not a single sign of milk which is odd. Fortunately our newsagent always has some. Things getting back to normal.

So...end of the leadership contest in 20 minutes.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:35 am

Morning All

While waiting for the big announcement, just to reply to Sky’s query last night. I happened to read an article the other day which covered the same ground from a different perspective. The basic proposition, which makes sense to me, is that nudity has increasingly been commodified as sex in our society and therefore needs at other times to be hidden away. You only need to go to somewhere like Sweden to find a different view. Although they are much more comfortable with nudity, I’ve yet to witness an orgy there!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:44 am

Lots of commentary some good some bad at the end of Corbyn.

A fan writes...

Glen O'Hara
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It's hard to get the tone right on this, but let's remind ourselves of why #Corbyn is having to go: he was a complete disgrace from start to finish. /THREAD

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:45 am

Jim Pickard
(@PickardJE)
BREAKING

am hearing that Keir Starmer won the leadership on the first round

and that Angela Rayner won the deputy leadership on the third round

(we'll found out in a minute or two for sure)

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:52 am

Oh dear, Labour's website looks as though it's crashed.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:55 am

And the most unsurprising news is...

The Labour Party
✔
@UKLabour
Congratulations to @Keir_Starmer, the new Leader of the Labour Party!#LabourLeadership

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:57 am

And Angela Rayner as Deputy.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:02 am

The Political Studies Association
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@PolStudiesAssoc
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Labour leadership election result/vote share:

Sir Keir Starmer: 275,780 (56.2%)

Rebecca Long-Bailey: 135,218 (27.6%)

Lisa Nandy: 79,597 (16.2%)

Source: @UKLabour

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:04 am

That's fairly comprehensive.

Explain to me again why it had to take 4 months?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:11 am

Dr Rosena second in the last round, impressive, Give her a job.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:21 am

gilsey wrote:Dr Rosena second in the last round, impressive, Give her a job.

Hear, hear. She got my vote. But I'm content with the result. I like Angela Rayner.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:44 am

Agreed. Some excellent candidates in the deputy contest, which is reassuring I guess!

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:45 am

So predictably there’s now talk of a GNU

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:48 am

In many ways the women fighting the Labour deputy leader contest were more interesting and stronger contenders than the women fighting for the leadership (not to mention the men they were competing against) which is a bit of a shame, but going forwards suggests we'll have a female Labour leader yet and hopefully fully on merit and not as a token gesture, seeing how that went for the Libdems with Swinson.

As for Keir Starmer, despite decisively winning a popular vote among members, he's got quite a challenge on his hands to establish himself as a leader in his own right, rather than just as the anti-Corbyn. I can't even pretend to guess how this is going to go.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:03 pm

Back to the really important stuff.

Where's my letter from Boris Johnson? Doesn't he realise the devastation its daily non-appearance is causing?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:11 pm

Jimmy
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@JimmySecUK
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Rosena Allin-Khan would make an excellent Shadow Health Secretary.

Lisa Nandy would be an excellent Shadow Communities Secretary.

Hilary Benn would make an excellent Shadow Foreign Secretary.

Richard Burgon would be excellent sitting on the back benches, playing with his Lego.

All excellent ideas. We need competence and intelligence on the front benches, and Burgon has neither.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:23 pm

@Roger

You are Spinning Hugo and I claim my 5 pounds

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:24 pm

Only joking!

AFinch · Post by **AFinch** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:35 pm

Afternoon everyone. Labour Party Leadership contest. Quelle surprise.

Anway here's Richard Thompson and backing singer (same household I should think) in lock down, playing into his phone. Sound quality a bit lacking but still.

[youtube]FhSt-WUKXvs[/youtube]

The description on the full YT page has links to the individual songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhSt-WUKXvs

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:36 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:38 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:So predictably there’s now talk of a GNU

And hopefully talk is all that it will remain.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:45 pm

PorFavor wrote:Back to the really important stuff.

Where's my letter from Boris Johnson? Doesn't he realise the devastation its daily non-appearance is causing?

We haven't had one here, either.
Starting to wonder if it actually exists. Has anyone here had one? Are we missing anything?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:47 pm

Yes, I can see the merits of Starmer attending Privy Council meetings and COBRA but nothing more than that.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 12:48 pm

Johnson probably got talked out of the letter thing or some kind soul incinerated the lot instead of mailing them.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 1:01 pm

gilsey wrote:That's fairly comprehensive.

Explain to me again why it had to take 4 months?

Some people thought it was being done too quickly originally (yes, really)

And the LibDems now don't plan to elect their new leader until next year

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 1:10 pm

citizenJA wrote:Johnson probably got talked out of the letter thing or some kind soul incinerated the lot instead of mailing them.

Perhaps he was pissed out of his brain when he made that promise, and has no memory of it at all ?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 1:47 pm

frog222 wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Johnson probably got talked out of the letter thing or some kind soul incinerated the lot instead of mailing them.
Perhaps he was pissed out of his brain when he made that promise, and has no memory of it at all ?

yep, quintessential Johnson

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 1:48 pm

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 1:49 pm

Anyway, my thought at the time when RLB gave Corbyn 10 out of 10 was "she's just lost this election". Nice to think i am right at least sometimes

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:01 pm

A belated good morfternoon.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:03 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:GNU?

I'm assuming it's not this:

[youtube]OPgo6s1lBbw[/youtube]

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:14 pm

"GNU's Not Unix!"

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:15 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:GNU?

Government of National Unity.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 5:21 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... l-is-wrong" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

why-what-we-think-we-know-about-the-uks-coronavirus-death-toll-is-wrong

GIGO !

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 5:22 pm

Tony Robinson
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I just rejoined the Labour Party. So sad about the wasted opportunities and the moral disgrace of the last five years. But so happy to have a new leader who can put things right. Congratulations @Keir_Starmer

1:34 PM - 4 Apr 2020

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 5:24 pm

Telling people everything in the past five years was bad really isn't a good look, hopefully the new leader will have more sense.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 5:44 pm

""Last night’s mixture of soggy carrots, courgettes, onions and peas, all blended together and then fried in sunflower oil was a new low. Though obviously slightly enhanced by a sense of moral superiority.""

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... s-lockdown" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 6:10 pm

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 6:20 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tony Robinson
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@Tony_Robinson
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I just rejoined the Labour Party. So sad about the wasted opportunities and the moral disgrace of the last five years. But so happy to have a new leader who can put things right. Congratulations @Keir_Starmer

1:34 PM - 4 Apr 2020

I bet he'll eat all the biscuits and never replenish supplies

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 8:05 pm

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status ... 3523453957

Today, we salute the Heroes of the Pandumbic.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 8:26 pm

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status ... 3523453957

Today, we salute the Heroes of the Pandumbic.

Thanks Sky, a good one !

Cause of Death ?

Erm, a HOAX.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:03 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 10:10 pm

Have I missed something ? All so quiet !

Post by **adam** » Sat 04 Apr, 2020 11:15 pm

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2020 12:25 am

Night night.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2020 7:43 am

Good morfternoon.

God, I'm fickle.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 05 Apr, 2020 10:04 am

Morning all.

Starmer was clearly prepared in advance for his victory. Besides the article in the Sunday Time he's already written to the Board of Deputies.

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gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 05 Apr, 2020 10:30 am

Germany's devolved logic is helping it win the coronavirus race

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 05 Apr, 2020 10:33 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Starmer was clearly prepared in advance for his victory. Besides the article in the Sunday Time he's already written to the Board of Deputies.

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The first reply I saw under that:

John_william
@johnwilliam2019
Replying to
@Freedland
and
@BoardofDeputies
It’s amazing how quickly labour goes from being institutionally racist to a sensible party of opposition with the exact same members now that the media have decided they think the leader’s alright.

You can be cynical about it or you can breathe a sigh of relief. Or both.

PTO