Easter Weekend 10th, 11th, 12th & 13th April 2020

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 6:29 pm

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:Worse than Patel was Harry Cole from the Mail asking about getting the immigration bill through parliament. It was his first question. At least a thousand people are dying every day and his priority was kicking people out of the country, many of whom will work in the NHS, care homes, supermarkets. What a piece of shit.

Cole really is highly unpleasant, and always has been.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 6:43 pm

Still, the Turin Shroud is being live-streamed.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 6:47 pm

Why, what do they think it is going to do?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 6:52 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Sky'sGoneOut wrote:Worse than Patel was Harry Cole from the Mail asking about getting the immigration bill through parliament. It was his first question. At least a thousand people are dying every day and his priority was kicking people out of the country, many of whom will work in the NHS, care homes, supermarkets. What a piece of shit.
Cole really is highly unpleasant, and always has been.

Compare and contrast his approach to journalism after leaving Guido Fawkes with Alex Wickham...

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 7:12 pm

Too much action from the Turin Shroud? Try a re-run of cheddarvision tv

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Post by **refitman** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 7:33 pm

Lest we forget "counter-terrorism offences".

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 10:25 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
It's been a hard day.
I love you.
cJA

Post by **adam** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 10:35 pm

If it's relaxation you need...

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Post by **adam** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 10:37 pm

We British are known for our common linguistic approaches to certain events. Like 'oh dear' when we we feel it start to rain, or 'oooo, lovely' when somebody gives us a cup of tea and a scone, or 'Goodness, it wasn't a bad dream' when we learn that Priti Patel is actually real.

Post by **adam** » Sat 11 Apr, 2020 10:41 pm

British prime minister Boris Johnson has thanked NHS staff at St Thomas’ Hospital in central London for saving his life while he underwent treatment in intensive care for coronavirus

So now, immediately, you can say that the broadcast your official Vote Leave campaign put out just before the referendum was an ignorant, spiteful, lying fucking disgrace that you will forever be ashamed of. Those exact words, please.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 8:53 am

20 days ago a poll was 55% 'favourable' on our government's management of the crisis, and today that is down to 28% . Just one source, but believable as the news seeps out on care staff medics and more occupations being without masks PPE and testing, then becoming sick and too many dying. And of course there has been much outright lying by the government, a bit of a competition to see which of the French or English has done more of that than the other . Difficult to beat the London mob on that tho.
Yesterday's 'figures' at last included care homes (EHPADs) and showed a decline ...

An excellent timeline of the UK government's special relationship with reality --

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:27 am

Good morfternoon - Sunday morfternoon.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:44 am

This is lovely, from Barry Gardiner:

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:56 am

I notice the MoS has a full in depth exclusive on "precisely" how ill the PM was.

And halfway down the article it gives the PM's press spokesman's name as James Slack...ah...OK...

And it can only be a matter of time before Dan Hodges starts using Dear Leader to describe the PM.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 11:07 am

A (not entirely serious) plea to help the Sun survive (worth reading the whole of the GoFund Me description).

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 11:28 am

Ah yes, that lefty media gunning for Jenrick...oh.

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 12:15 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote: And it can only be a matter of time before Dan Hodges starts using Dear Leader to describe the PM.

He was always going to end up like this, and indeed enough people warned him.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 12:59 pm

refitman wrote:A (not entirely serious) plea to help the Sun survive (worth reading the whole of the GoFund Me description).

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Not only is this a hilarious and excellent endeavour in and of itself, it's also yet another demonstration of the witlessness of vast swathes of the denizens of twitter who seem more akin to insects immediately responding to basic stimuli than thinking rational beings. Good stuff.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 1:31 pm

Some people really have no shame...story in the Sun on Sunday.

CLOCK DOWN When should Britain lift its coronavirus lockdown? Two experts debate whether it’s time to return to normal
Toby YoungJimmy Whitworth

So those experts...

Jimmy Whitworth, Professor of International Public Health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
Toby Young, tedious right wing gobshite with no expertise in the area of public health

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 1:41 pm

Sad to hear that Tim Brooke Taylor has died with coronavirus.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 1:42 pm

Highest profile casualty yet, I would have thought.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 1:45 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Sad to hear that Tim Brooke Taylor has died with coronavirus.

That really is sad. The Goodies are worth 300,034 974,000 Boris Johnsons.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 2:29 pm

Is it too much to hope we might get some Goodies repeats at least now?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 2:36 pm

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 3:21 pm

What terrible day this is turning out to be...

Peter Bonetti: Former Chelsea and England goalkeeper dies aged 78

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 4:17 pm

I suppose people have just about forgiven him for *that* England game now.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 5:04 pm

Happy Easter.

I know you're not supposed to roll eggs until Easter Monday but it's supposed to be a bit chilly tomorrow so I did it today. One exploded spectacularly upon impact to mild applause from an onlooking family nearby while the other two made it all the way to the bottom of the hill with only minor damage and were promptly scoffed.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 6:44 pm

refitman wrote:This is lovely, from Barry Gardiner:

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What a lovely guy.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 6:46 pm

For some reason I was telling my son just the other day that the most famous case of someone actually dying laughing was thanks to the Goodies. It was the Ecky-thump one I think.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:01 pm

This is quite remarkable
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Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:04 pm

Rachel Swindon has just posted the whole Report

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:07 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is quite remarkable
https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/its- ... d-to-lose/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But surely no great surprises PFY ? Such lovely people

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:23 pm

I’ve just downloaded and started to read the whole report.

My initial conclusion. Labour did not deserve to be elected in 2017 or 2019. How could such a divided organisation govern? And Starmer has absolutely got his work cut out to get past this. As the report says there should be healthy disagreement within a party like Labour, but to have senior figures actively working for Labour to lose is beyond contempt IMHO.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:29 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I’ve just downloaded and started to read the whole report.

My initial conclusion. Labour did not deserve to be elected in 2017 or 2019. How could such a divided organisation govern? And Starmer has absolutely got his work cut out to get past this. As the report says there should be healthy disagreement within a party like Labour, but to have senior figures actively working for Labour to lose is beyond contempt IMHO.

"" but to have senior figures actively working for Labour to lose is beyond contempt .""

I thought everyone knew that ?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:38 pm

PFY - one of (several) reasons why PR is so important for the UK. Labour as it was conceived doesn’t make so much sense now, and our society is such that it will always be divided; but a functional consortium of social democratic, green etc left of center parties could actually get us somewhere. Everyone says the Tories won’t allow it, but you don’t change critical things by accepting the status quo.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 8:07 pm

frog222 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I’ve just downloaded and started to read the whole report.

My initial conclusion. Labour did not deserve to be elected in 2017 or 2019. How could such a divided organisation govern? And Starmer has absolutely got his work cut out to get past this. As the report says there should be healthy disagreement within a party like Labour, but to have senior figures actively working for Labour to lose is beyond contempt IMHO.

"" but to have senior figures actively working for Labour to lose is beyond contempt .""
I thought everyone knew that ?

Everyone "knew" it, but to see it confirmed so baldly is still a bit unnerving.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:13 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:PFY - one of (several) reasons why PR is so important for the UK. Labour as it was conceived doesn’t make so much sense now, and our society is such that it will always be divided; but a functional consortium of social democratic, green etc left of center parties could actually get us somewhere. Everyone says the Tories won’t allow it, but you don’t change critical things by accepting the status quo.

There was a referendum on changing the electoral system, albeit to a not very much more proportional one. Then Labour leader Ed Miliband campaigned for change.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:17 pm

On AV which is crap. Not on PR.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:17 pm

Plus, things change.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:21 pm

I didn't say we shouldn't have another referendum. Just presenting information

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:44 pm

Oh no - not the R word!

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 9:59 pm

Right so nobody is going to say anything nice about my eggs, you're just going to prattle on about boring stuff like self-sabotaging factionalism in the Labour Party like it's anything new.

In 2005 when I was working for the Lib-Dems in Leeds we were getting sent confidential emails on electoral strategy from within the Labour Party, now given this was obviously under Blair I'm willing to bet whoever was feeding us that information (and it was completely accurate) was on the left of the party, we also had quite a number of volunteers and activists defect to us, all from the left of the party. I can clearly remember a conversation I had with one of them, a woman in her thirties who had been a Labour activist since she was a teenager, asking her why she'd joined and what she knew about the party and her response was that she didn't care, all that was important was that Blair lost.

Until someone does something to sort this out it will go on and on ad infinitum, I've never been a member of the Labour Party but it seems to me as an outside observer that this 'broad church' that we hear mentioned so often is built on foundations of bullshit.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:01 pm

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:Right so nobody is going to say anything nice about my eggs, you're just going to prattle on about boring stuff like self-sabotaging factionalism in the Labour Party like it's anything new.

In 2005 when I was working for the Lib-Dems in Leeds we were getting sent confidential emails on electoral strategy from within the Labour Party, now given this was obviously under Blair I'm willing to bet whoever was feeding us that information (and it was completely accurate) was on the left of the party, we also had quite a number of volunteers and activists defect to us, all from the left of the party. I can clearly remember a conversation I had with one of them, a woman in her thirties who had been a Labour activist since she was a teenager, asking her why she'd joined and what she knew about the party and her response was that she didn't care, all that was important was that Blair lost.

Until someone does something to sort this out it will go on and on ad infinitum, I've never been a member of the Labour Party but it seems to me as an outside observer that this 'broad church' that we hear mentioned so often is built on foundations of bullshit.

Actually I was wondering which hill you rolled your eggs down

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:13 pm

And you are right. I'm basically a loyalist. I campaigned for Blair, Brown, Miliband, Corbyn.

The one thing that could make me leave the party is the shocking level of disloyalty we are seeing.

Corbyn was elected leader in the first place because Burnham, Cooper and Kendall were so monumentally uninspiring. Instead of sorting themselves out and presenting some credible policies, the "moderates" turned on the leader who, whatever you think of it, had a proper manifesto. It's not a good look.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:14 pm

Nice eggs you’ve got there Sky.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:19 pm

Actually Burnham is interestingly presenting himself as a victim in this.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:20 pm

Anyhoo, anyone been bingeing on any good TV during this lockdown?

I just finished the first series of 'The Missing' from 2014 on the Iplayer after reading some inexplicably good reviews.

It was just a cheesy bog standard 'kid gone missing' crime drama with all the usual cliches and tropes, the cheese being the most important ingredient as it complimented the enormous slice of ham that is James Nesbitt. It will forever be a mystery to me why directors employ James Nesbitt, he has all the acting chops of a 5 year old trying to look innocent while holding a poo in their hand next to a wall with 'poo' written on it in poo.

So any suggestions for BBC drama's on the IPlayer that don't have James Nesbitt in them would be gratefully received.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:23 pm

Your eggs are very pretty.

This is some of my snakes-head fritillaries.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:28 pm

@Sky'sGoneOut

Have you seen "The Long Firm" with Mark Strong (came out a long time ago in the 2000 and somethings)? I thought it was great.

Beautiful eggs, by the way.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 12 Apr, 2020 10:30 pm

BBC - Mother Father Son was good.
Things I’ve watched through various channels of late that were good include:
Shimmer Lake (film)
Uncorked (film)
Bordertown (Finnish TV)
Also Sniffer (Polish TV - or was it Ukrainian?) was good (at least first two series)

PTO