Friday 24th April 2020

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 6:34 am

Morning all.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:36 am

Good morning, everyone.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:51 am

Morning all.

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gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:52 am

This ABdePJ Hancock knows, is he the same as the one we know?

Asked whether there was pressure on Johnson to return earlier than he was ready, Hancock added: “I hope not. By his nature he is an extremely enthusiastic and hard working guy and he doesn’t like slouching.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:57 am

Responding to the government’s coronavirus contact tracing strategy, Ian Hudspeth, chairman of the Local Government Association’s community wellbeing board, said:

'Any national plans by government to track and trace coronavirus needs to be complemented by making use of existing local knowledge and skills on the ground.

Councils want to play their full part in the national effort to defeat this disease. Directors of public health working in councils, alongside a range of other local services such as environmental health, public health including sexual health services, and infection control nurses already have the experience of testing and contact tracing in their communities.

They have the necessary skills to work with government on this, to scale up the system at pace and shape this at a local level.

Some of these workers may need to be supported by recent graduates, retired staff, trainees and other civil servants to help meet demand, monitor compliance with government advice and enforce health protection regulations.

This extra demand on existing services would need to be met by additional resources and funding, if councils are to help test, trace and isolate those with Covid-19.'

The inference of this is that LAs haven't been consulted at all?

Which wouldn't surprise us, but might deepen our despair.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:28 am

The gov.uk website set up for key workers to book coronavirus tests was not accepting new applications on Friday morning. (Politics Live, Guardian)

We've gone from -

Not enough people are booking tests (yesterday)

to (today)

Christ! Too many people are booking tests. Shut down the applications pathway!

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:49 am

Re:Donald Trump

I understand the moral cesspit of greed and corruption that keeps the Republicans from removing Trump but why they don't shut him up is beyond me.

Post by **adam** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:04 pm

Willow904 wrote:Re:Donald Trump

I understand the moral cesspit of greed and corruption that keeps the Republicans from removing Trump but why they don't shut him up is beyond me.

I think he was absolutely right about one thing - so far as his supporters are concerned, he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any support.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:08 pm

PorFavor wrote:
The gov.uk website set up for key workers to book coronavirus tests was not accepting new applications on Friday morning. (Politics Live, Guardian)
We've gone from -

Not enough people are booking tests (yesterday)

to (today)

Christ! Too many people are booking tests. Shut down the applications pathway!

doesn't inspire confidence, that's for sure

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:09 pm

that's an understatement

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:09 pm

Good morfternoon.

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:27 pm

gilsey wrote:
Responding to the government’s coronavirus contact tracing strategy, Ian Hudspeth, chairman of the Local Government Association’s community wellbeing board, said:

..This extra demand on existing services would need to be met by additional resources and funding, if councils are to help test, trace and isolate those with Covid-19.'
The inference of this is that LAs haven't been consulted at all?

Which wouldn't surprise us, but might deepen our despair.

We've made our own arrangements where I work e.g. for temporary accommodation placements for those who have tested positive

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:55 pm

Yes we have no elements of medical.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 12:58 pm

citizenJA wrote:Yes we have no elements of medical.

But I did get hold of some bananas the other day.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 1:21 pm

adam wrote:
Willow904 wrote:Re:Donald Trump

I understand the moral cesspit of greed and corruption that keeps the Republicans from removing Trump but why they don't shut him up is beyond me.
I think he was absolutely right about one thing - so far as his supporters are concerned, he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any support.

But he won last time because he scored well amongst independents and "swing" voters. Lose them significantly and he has almost certainly lost the election.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:16 pm

PorFavor wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Yes we have no elements of medical.
But I did get hold of some bananas the other day.

Brava!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:23 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
adam wrote:---
I think he was absolutely right about one thing - so far as his supporters are concerned, he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any support.
But he won last time because he scored well amongst independents and "swing" voters. Lose them significantly and he has almost certainly lost the election.

(cJA edit)
A US President's security team will neutralise the POTUS stupid enough to use a firearm this way.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:24 pm

Couple of threads on the B-word, if anyone has the stomach for it.

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ThomasHCole
@ThomasHCole
Barnier then lists 4 areas:
1) "The UK keeps insisting on sovereign equals but the reality is that there are 66m consumers on one side and 450m on the other. Zero tariffs + zero quotas would be unprecedented"

Ouch.

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David Henig
@DavidHenigUK
Is the UK strategy the belief that we'll get a deal because we're willing to walk away without one? To walk away in June? To sign something in September / October and claim victory? All far from clear and needs to be discussed (but bigger issues....)

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:31 pm

Hasn't "we're ready to walk away" been part of the UK government's "strategy" from the beginning?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:44 pm

Indeed.

Worked well so far, hasn't it. On the electorate, though, not the EU.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:47 pm

Here's another one, Dougan doesn't mince his words.

Michael Dougan
@mdouganlpool
So: UK Government's breezy confidence and optimism looks more like gross arrogance and wilful negligence. As I've said before: Johnson's planned No Deal Brexit on 1 January 2021, amid terrible health and economic problems, will = an entirely deliberate and avoidable extra crisis.

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 2:52 pm

The only thing I find positive about current political events are the contributions on topics from my friends here. Never let it be said I didn't look on the bright side of life.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 4:09 pm

gilsey wrote:Indeed.

Worked well so far, hasn't it. On the electorate, though, not the EU.

In hindsight, though, maybe the opposition should have tried to force a GE last autumn - when a no deal Brexit was still very much a live possibility?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 6:14 pm

There is also the possibility that Theresa May was right all along and that the only way to avoid a 'no deal' Brexit was to vote for her deal with the whole of UK customs union backstop.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 6:32 pm

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Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 6:44 pm

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 8:27 pm

No wonder its been kept secret, then

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 8:33 pm

goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 9:10 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:But he won last time because he scored well amongst independents and "swing" voters. Lose them significantly and he has almost certainly lost the election.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ble-haters

NBC News shared data with me from the poll on voters who had negative opinions of both Trump and Biden: the new double haters. These voters were clear in their preference. Biden was winning them 60 percent to 10 percent...If Biden maintains a 50-point lead among double haters heading into the fall, Trump is probably toast.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 9:49 pm

I was so looking forward to an evening of mainlining Domestos while shining a torch up my backside but now I find out the President of the United States was only being sarcastic. How disappointing.

Which is really strange because over at Breitbart they had an article defending his suggestions and blaming libtards for being too stupid to understand what he'd said. What's not strange however is after that article was roundly mocked and even contradicted by their own fuckwit in chief it now has a disclaimer at the beginning and has been so heavily edited it bears little resemblance to its former self.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/202 ... infectant/

I almost feel sorry for them. Imagine having to defend someone who suggests injecting disinfectant, then has the insane gall the next day to claim it was all a joke on his opponents who were too stupid to get it, even though anyone who cares to look can see he was clearly serious, so much so he asked his own mortified looking medical advisor her opinion.

People in the States have been prosecuted for claiming drinking bleach can cure Coronavirus and yet this fucking imbecile can just brush it off and claim he was joking. If this doesn't persuade swing voters that the man is literally a risk to the public then nothing will.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:30 pm

Willow904 wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ssion=true

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19

A 'Downing St spokesperson' says it's not true.

Who would the spokesperson be?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:46 pm

I may be paraphrasing slightly, but the story appears to be that Cummings was merely gatecrashing SAGE meetings as he could on account of them being virtual. Which I'm not sure sounds that much better, tbh.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:37 pm

Well well...

Dyson will not supply ventilators to NHS to treat Covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... t-covid-19

The government commissioned several companies to supply 10,000 brand new ventilators each, awarding contracts to Dyson, defence company Babcock and a Cambridge-based group called Sagentia, a subsidiary of Science Group.

But none of the companies has so far received regulatory approval for new devices.

Dyson’s is the second project to be abandoned, after an effort involving the Renault and Aston Martin Red Bull Formula One teams was stood down due to a change in the specifications set by the government for new devices.

The only group to have secured regulatory approval and supplied ventilators to the NHS in significant numbers is Ventilator Challenge UK, a consortium of manufacturers that focused on scaling up production of proven devices, rather than building new ones.

Shocked etc.

I never could see the point of redesigning something which they already had.

And Dyson reckons they've spent £20m on the project? Yeah right...

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:37 pm

Let's not forget that Cummings is a man who was found to be in contempt of Parliament back when that was supposed to still mean something.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:45 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:I never could see the point of redesigning something which they already had.

Because if Dyson had had to stick to an established blueprint he couldn't have charged twice as much for something that did exactly the same as all the other ventilators.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:26 am

It's that time again.

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:44 am

Je ne forget rien . . .

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:50 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:59 am

Steely Dan did two decent songs. Here's one of them -

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:00 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:11 am

That was great!

Now, to get it out of the way, here's the other one -

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:15 am

You know I've always stayed a good two metres away from Steely Dan for fear of contamination but those were a fine couple of tunes.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:27 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:29 am

And now I'm the old man.

Fuck.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:44 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:45 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:53 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:55 am

Night night.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 1:58 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 25 Apr, 2020 2:05 am

Night PF.

Behave yourself.