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 Post subject: Tuesday 28th April 2020
PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 5:44 am 
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Morning all.

Not much to report here - tipping it down with rain.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 9:47 am 
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Long and comprehensive piece on social care.

Homecare in the time of coronavirus


I think HindleA would have appreciated it. :cry:

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:10 am 
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Happy Ed Balls Day
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:15 am 
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gilsey wrote:
Long and comprehensive piece on social care.

Homecare in the time of coronavirus


I think HindleA would have appreciated it. :cry:
There'd better not be an image of an elderly person's hands involved.


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:27 am 
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Not much to report here - tipping it down with rain.


Well that's quite newsworthy in itself tbf.


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:31 am 
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Have a look at the clock on Keir Starmer's wall.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52450742

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:35 am 
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What am I missing? :?:


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 10:50 am 
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5 past 11...so either he was late for it, keeps his clock 5 mins fast, or asked for the photo to be taken afterwards.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 11:54 am 
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https://www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/ ... ssion=true

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How the Government Screwed Up On Coronavirus So Badly


Great title, very succinct.
It seems the Great British Public aren't as revolutionary as Brexit might have implied. People thought they were voting for a safe and secure past, not an uncertain, disaster capitalism future. The Tories understood this, encouraged these false notions, yet even so have been floored a little it seejs by the deep vein of small 'c' conservatism running through the British public that has enthusiastically embraced the paternalistic restrictions of lockdown in a true 'Blitz' spirit and aren't, it seems, any where near as desperate to get back to the treadmill as our wealthy overlords are.
Let's hope the public continue to shoot down those "lockdown busting" kites that are currently flying and quietly refuse to go back to work until their safety is placed before company profits.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 11:58 am 
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Starmer has been criticised by some for making the need for a government "exit strategy" a key part of his message. But surely the above is a key reason why he is doing so - many don't trust the government and think they will try to force everything "back to normal" before it is actually safe to do so.

If there is actually something definable that they can be held to, that becomes all the harder.


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 12:53 pm 
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Good morfternoon.

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Gove says scientific advisers determined what was held in PPE pandemic stockpile

In the House of Commons, in response to a question from the SNP’s Pete Wishart, Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, suggested that the government’s scientific advisers bore some responsibility for the shortage of PPE (personal protective equipment). (Politics Live, Guardian)


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 1:17 pm 
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Gove blaming his government's scientific advisers is a small, inadequate response from this government minister


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While the UK’s major internet providers have agreed to remove data caps on fixed-line broadband during the coronavirus pandemic, this does not apply to the estimated 1.9 million households with no internet data or the 25.9 million pay-as-you-go customers, who make up over a quarter of all mobile phone subscriptions in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... uk-poorest
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this is a great big problem


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the entire article is worth a read


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PorFavor wrote:
Good morfternoon.

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Gove says scientific advisers determined what was held in PPE pandemic stockpile

In the House of Commons, in response to a question from the SNP’s Pete Wishart, Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, suggested that the government’s scientific advisers bore some responsibility for the shortage of PPE (personal protective equipment). (Politics Live, Guardian)


I thought the management of the stockpile was outsourced to a private company.

I also thought after the 2016 pandemic test it was recommended to the government that stocks were inadequate.

I also got the very strong impression from the Panorama programme that stocks had become even more depleted between 2016 and now.

All of which is a roundabout way of wondering whether the amount of stockpile the scientific advisors thought we had and thought was adequate was, in fact, the same as the stockpile we actually had by Jan 2020.

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Good to see that today's thread is already busier than yesterday, keep it going :)


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 2:05 pm 
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Poor Darren, he really is dim...

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/statu ... 1294707712

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It’s 10 years since bigotgate. It exposed much. Concern about community, nationhood and the impact of immigration was dismissed as swivel-eyed bigotry by our New Labour elites. It would bring Brown’s coronation and New Labour’s technocratic and Oxbridge-class rule to a swift end.


:lol:

People have been falling over themselves to remind Grimes that (i) Brown went to Edinburgh and (ii) we've had 3 Oxford-educated PMs since him...

In any case didn't the subject of Brown's ire actually go on and vote Labour?

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She did in that election, but subsequently voted for UKIP.


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Thread on reporting of deaths and testing in care homes.

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/statu ... 7249032195

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Matt Hancock laughs off the questions from the New Scientist as they're "too science-y" (I paraphrase).

Although I notice that, with each appearance, he gets more wheedling and more matey.


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Goodnight, everyone.
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This beautiful song came to mind today. Written about a very different scenario, but resonates for me.



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