Monday 8th June 2020
Posted: Mon 08 Jun, 2020 6:51 am
Morning all.
I'm struggling to think of another news item in the last x months that cheered me up like watching them chuck that statue in the harbour.Steve Bullock
@GuitarMoog
Genuinely can’t believe we’re having to have this conversation.
A statue. An inanimate statue. Of a slave trader. Nobody hurt. Police fine & content. Local mayor supportive. Get TF over it.
I didn't hear the interview directly, so I can't say.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was the word "Savile" ever mentioned?
I've even seen "first they came for the statues".......and then what, exactly? Did the removal of Stalin/Saddam statues upset them as much??gilsey wrote:I'm struggling to think of another news item in the last x months that cheered me up like watching them chuck that statue in the harbour.Steve Bullock
@GuitarMoog
Genuinely can’t believe we’re having to have this conversation.
A statue. An inanimate statue. Of a slave trader. Nobody hurt. Police fine & content. Local mayor supportive. Get TF over it.
It was nice, wasn't it? Something positive and meaningful for a change. A peaceful protest with people working together to finally put to bed a debate that had been rumbling on, seemingly without end, for years.gilsey wrote:I'm struggling to think of another news item in the last x months that cheered me up like watching them chuck that statue in the harbour.Steve Bullock
@GuitarMoog
Genuinely can’t believe we’re having to have this conversation.
A statue. An inanimate statue. Of a slave trader. Nobody hurt. Police fine & content. Local mayor supportive. Get TF over it.
The fact that Tory MPs have been condemning some minor criminal damage to an inanimate object with the same words and tone as they used to condemn violence that ended in injuries to police officers in London a couple of days ago is quite revealing, I think.Theft or vandalism of second Colston statue plaque 'may be justified' - Tory councillor
Bonjour CitoyennecitizenJA wrote:I'm satisfied with Starmer's response too.
Yes, I liked this.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Or indeed - LOTO says he can understand why people did what they did, and the statue should have gone long ago.
tho a bit long for a headline !citizenJA wrote:Yes, I liked this.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Or indeed - LOTO says he can understand why people did what they did, and the statue should have gone long ago.
"the country had done the right thing at the right time." This lie needs to be nailed, because it's parroted so often. When Italy was in crisis around 13th March, Denmark locked down. Meanwhile in the UK the doubling time for C19 cases was THREE DAYS. So the 10 days between Denmark's lockdown and ours gave us an 8 fold increase in the number of cases. Lets be very generous and say that led to only a doubling in C19 deaths--from 30,000 to 60,000.
Take a deep breath and imagine the response from `BJ, Patel and co, if the police or security services had sat on information for 10 days, when action needed to be taken immediately, and 30,000 people had died needlessly. And watch the people who did sit on their hands for 10 days and did cause 30,000 needless deaths lie and lie again, about how they did the right thing at the right time. Nail it now and nail it hard. If Priti wants a new offence, how about causing death by reckless misconduct in public office, with her chums in the cabinet as the first to be found guilty?
Extend the transition; delay negotiations until after the coronavirus outbreak
The government should consider delaying negotiations so they can concentrate on the coronavirus situation and reduce travel of both EU and UK negotiators. This would necessitate extending the transition period; as there can only be a one off extension, this should be for two years.
History is made and unmade in a moment. To witness such moments is thrilling. Watching the statue of Edward Colston pulled down was beautiful. A symbolic gesture, perhaps, but one that hurt no one, and one that taught many of us so much.