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Approaching three months ago, one saliva test was rejected by the English government . There have been several more developed since.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... are_btn_tw
This morning on Toady , breaking news on saliva tests to be trialled in Southampton ! World-beating ?

CORRECTION, from the G 22/5 ! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ey-workers
The vast majority of the Press has been very misleading on the subject of false negatives, and very little joined-up reporting !


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Approaching three months ago, one saliva test was rejected by the English government . There have been several more developed since.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... are_btn_tw
This morning on Toady , breaking news on saliva tests to be trialled in Southampton ! World-beating ?


Deliberate mis-spelling? ;)


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The last word on the Trump rally.

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6,200! And his campaign team genuinely thought a million folk wanted tickets. Hartlepool United have had bigger gates than this!

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Jun, 2020 10:14 am 
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The last word on the Trump rally.
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6,200! And his campaign team genuinely thought a million folk wanted tickets. Hartlepool United have had bigger gates than this!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ick-wilson
In more 'normal' times Trump would be discredited by this , but we are post- his boast of gunning someone down in Fifth Avenue ...


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He looked very p***ed off returning from that rally, though......


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
He looked very p***ed off returning from that rally, though......


Yes indeed!

https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1274592537282519040


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frog222 wrote:
Approaching three months ago, one saliva test was rejected by the English government . There have been several more developed since.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... are_btn_tw
This morning on Toady , breaking news on saliva tests to be trialled in Southampton ! World-beating ?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/21/brad-parscale-donald-trump-tulsa-rally-covid-ivanka-kushner-rick-wilson
Deliberate mis-spelling? ;)
Several years ago I believed I 'd coined that one on the special relationship with the Tory government, then I googled it and found I was not the first ! ;) ;)


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My printer is playing up so I've been looking at getting a new one only to find I can't. Basic inkjet printers appear to be completely out of stock everywhere. I haven't seen much talk about shortages in the media but there has been a much bigger impact on supply than is generally acknowledged and an imminent crash-out "no deal" Brexit is going to make things a lot worse.

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My printer is playing up so I've been looking at getting a new one only to find I can't. Basic inkjet printers appear to be completely out of stock everywhere. I haven't seen much talk about shortages in the media but there has been a much bigger impact on supply than is generally acknowledged and an imminent crash-out "no deal" Brexit is going to make things a lot worse.

I've noticed a lack of specific supplies too.


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Afternoon all.

Dave Hill: Flailing London Tories are failing to deceive over the congestion charge increase

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/dave-hill-fl ... -increase/

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It is hard not to laugh at the desperation and dishonesty of London Tories’ attempts to blame Sadiq Khan for the increase in the Central London congestion charge, which comes into effect today. Their mayoral candidate, Shaun Bailey, who was struggling to make any impact on the race for City Hall before the coronavirus forced the postponement of the election, has been frantically accusing him of lying about being required to hike the charge as a condition of the government’s financial bailout of Transport for London.


:D

Dave's been asking various Tories about this and pointing out the passage in the rules imposed by the government but as yet hasn't had a reply.

And Shaun Bailey - words fail. Accusing the Mayor of financial mismanagement after the government tells everyone to stay at home and consequently TfL revenues fall off a cliff is a special kind of dishonesty.

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And almost on cue, some dweeb on the Borisograph has just opined that the London Mayoralty should be abolished.


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And almost on cue, some dweeb on the Borisograph has just opined that the London Mayoralty should be abolished.

Obviously Deloittes & Serco would do a better job :sick: :sick: :sick:


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The DT is outdoing itself today...

Lionel Shriver talks to Allison Pearson: 'The British people have never more profoundly disappointed me'

Maybe the British people ought to tell you to piss back to the States then...

And Norman Tebbit...

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Churchill was the great wartime leader in the fight to save this country and liberate our friends on the continent from the curse of Hitler's extreme Left, anti-Semitic, German National Socialist Workers' Party regime.


Oh my aching sides...

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The DT is outdoing itself today...

Lionel Shriver talks to Allison Pearson: 'The British people have never more profoundly disappointed me'

Maybe the British people ought to tell you to piss back to the States then...

And Norman Tebbit...

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Churchill was the great wartime leader in the fight to save this country and liberate our friends on the continent from the curse of Hitler's extreme Left, anti-Semitic, German National Socialist Workers' Party regime.


Oh my aching sides...

Of COURSE, Krupp and IG Farben were bolshevik Workers' Cooperatives !


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https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/Press-releases-2020/June-2020/Four-single-mums-win-Court-of-Appeal-universal-cre

Good news, but that it had to come to this is characteristic of a Tory government.


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It's also typical for the entire UC project. Poorly specified, ignored expert concerns throughout, and terribly implemented. And, of course, defended to the hilt by every disgusting mouth piece they have put forward.


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Jenny Harries, the deputy chief medical officer for England, encouraged people who have been shielding not to be fearful about returning to work. She said that incidence of coronavirus was now so low that, on an epidemiological basis, it would be safe to advice them to return to work now. But they were being told to go back from 1 August to give them time to get used to the idea, she said. She acknowledged that people would be worried. But she advised them to overcome their fears.
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"For many people who have been out of normal societal circulation, actually having a job, going to work and doing something purposeful, is really important for your ongoing health, and your economic and mental health as well ... Although people will be fearful, they perhaps sometimes do need to push a little bit in order to get the benefit back themselves."
Harries said that many children who have been shielding would be better off in school.
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"Those children are at very, very low risk from Covid, they are probably at very, very significant risk of getting left behind in their education. In terms of the long-term health outcomes, that would be far worse."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 75f4490050

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PorFavor?
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33 forecast for Thursday !

Which would be OK if it wasn't for northern Siberia :-(


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Willow904 wrote:
My printer is playing up so I've been looking at getting a new one only to find I can't. Basic inkjet printers appear to be completely out of stock everywhere. I haven't seen much talk about shortages in the media but there has been a much bigger impact on supply than is generally acknowledged and an imminent crash-out "no deal" Brexit is going to make things a lot worse.

That's useful. Was thinking about a new one myself. We have an ancient, incredibly faithful hp Laserjet 1300 that has been churning out black and white for nearly 15 years I reckon. What a printer! But it's struggling with the larger documents we get now and of course can't do colour.

Might have to keep it chugging on a while longer and, as we've done for a while, send the other stuff to the photographer / print shop down the road, assuming they are now open again.


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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My printer is playing up so I've been looking at getting a new one only to find I can't. Basic inkjet printers appear to be completely out of stock everywhere. I haven't seen much talk about shortages in the media but there has been a much bigger impact on supply than is generally acknowledged and an imminent crash-out "no deal" Brexit is going to make things a lot worse.
That's useful. Was thinking about a new one myself. We have an ancient, incredibly faithful hp Laserjet 1300 that has been churning out black and white for nearly 15 years I reckon. What a printer! But it's struggling with the larger documents we get now and of course can't do colour.

Might have to keep it chugging on a while longer and, as we've done for a while, send the other stuff to the photographer / print shop down the road, assuming they are now open again.
I don't know about that specific model but I'd advise you to hold onto it even if you get a new one. Some things aren't made as well as they used to be.


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Willow904 wrote:
My printer is playing up so I've been looking at getting a new one only to find I can't. Basic inkjet printers appear to be completely out of stock everywhere. I haven't seen much talk about shortages in the media but there has been a much bigger impact on supply than is generally acknowledged and an imminent crash-out "no deal" Brexit is going to make things a lot worse.
That's useful. Was thinking about a new one myself. We have an ancient, incredibly faithful hp Laserjet 1300 that has been churning out black and white for nearly 15 years I reckon. What a printer! But it's struggling with the larger documents we get now and of course can't do colour.

Might have to keep it chugging on a while longer and, as we've done for a while, send the other stuff to the photographer / print shop down the road, assuming they are now open again.
I don't know about that specific model but I'd advise you to hold onto it even if you get a new one. Some things aren't made as well as they used to be.

Yes good point! Wheel it back out in an emergency ;-)

It wouldn't be hard to believe that hp regret how good these printers are. Nobody needed a new one for 15 years!! ;-)


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Delicious aperitif, PorFavor, thank you.


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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ry-science

Hancock lifts Covid-19 restrictions in line with economy – sorry, science
ITMA !


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https://www.independentsage.org/review- ... istancing/

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A story which for some reason doesn't appear as a main headline but tucked somewhere down the page

Britain nearly went bust in March, says Bank of England

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Britain came close to effective insolvency at the onset of the coronavirus crisis as financial markets plunged into turmoil, the governor of the Bank of England has said.
Laying bare the scale of the national emergency at the early stages of the pandemic, Andrew Bailey said the government would have struggled to finance the running of the country without support from the central bank.

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Lionel Shriver talks to Allison Pearson


As those spoof Hansard excerpts in Private Eye used to say - "HOUSE EMPTIES".


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