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Shopping and then watching the test Match is my excuse.

You know you're getting old when you see the name peter Green trending on that twitter and you know immediately who it is and why it's trending...but not have a clue as to who Wiley is.

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Shopping and then watching the test Match is my excuse.

You know you're getting old when you see the name peter Green trending on that twitter and you know immediately who it is and why it's trending...but not have a clue as to who Wiley is.

It's nice(!) too see LordJohnMann finally doing some work as the 'anti-semitism' tsar, by....attacking Jeremy Corbyn :toss: :toss: :toss:


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Yes, I saw that and thought "Huh?"

Some people really are too obsessed with Corbyn...need to let go people, he isn't leader any longer...

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Oh and Rachel Riley...

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Shopping and then watching the test Match is my excuse.
You know you're getting old when you see the name peter Green trending on that twitter and you know immediately who it is and why it's trending...but not have a clue as to who Wiley is.

It's nice(!) too see LordJohnMann finally doing some work as the 'anti-semitism' tsar, by....attacking Jeremy Corbyn :toss: :toss: :toss:

One of the few bits of politix I caught on the radio earlier . He gives the impression of being very very thick ? I already knew he was thoroughly unpleasant !


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Yes, I saw that and thought "Huh?"

Some people really are too obsessed with Corbyn...need to let go people, he isn't leader any longer...


Says it all that some of his fiercest critics find that as hard as a section of his committed supporters.


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Leon Theremin playing the ... theremin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20o

These talks are good value, very more-ish, and like krikit take one's mind off current nastiness !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008jds

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RFID Things That Made the Modern Economy,Series 2
At the beginning of the Cold War, musical inventor Leon Theremin managed to bug the US embassy in Moscow. The ingenious device he used is a predecessor of a humble technology that surrounds us every day: the Radio-Frequency Identification tag. Tim Harford asks if RFID is introducing an ‘internet of things’. Or are its glory days behind it?


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Transport Sec Grant Shapps is on holiday in Spain. He will, therefore, have to quarantine for 14 days when he gets home.
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Rachel Riley, John Mann and Katie Hopkins trending in quick succession - has there been an explosion in a sewage plant?

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Rachel Riley, John Mann and Katie Hopkins trending in quick succession - has there been an explosion in a sewage plant?

Riley attacked Jedward, of all people :roll:


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It's a lovely morning.
Blue sky! 19, a 'fresh' breeze, even one con trail... and now have to find out who Jedward is (are-- I see) ! All I rather vaguely know about RR is that she's some sort of witchfinder on our least favourite campaign. After checking BylineTimes on Whittingdale and a very real Enemy Within https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/24/swee ... ttingdale/ will go to check up on Oborne and Jonathan Cook on the latest ME badnews ...


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At the far end of any moral and intellectual spectrum from the UK's witchfinders --
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"" But the liberal Zionist condition was precisely one of willful blindness. It shut its eyes tight and saw no evil, even as Israel debased Palestinian life there for more than half a century. Looking back, Beinart recognises his own self-inflicted credulousness. “In practice, Israel annexed the West Bank long ago,” he writes in the New York Times.

In his two articles, Beinart denies liberal Jews the one path still available to them to rationalise Palestinian oppression. He argues that those determined to support a Jewish state, whatever it does, are projecting their own unresolved, post-Holocaust fears onto Palestinians.

In the Zionist imagination, according to Beinart, Palestinians have been reinvented as heirs to the Nazis. As a result, most Jews have been manipulated into framing Israel’s settler-colonialism in zero-sum terms – as a life-or-death battle. In that way, they have been able to excuse Israel’s perpetual abuse of Palestinians.

Or as Beinart puts it: “Through a historical sleight of hand that turns Palestinians into Nazis, fear of annihilation has come to define what it means to be an authentic Jew.” He adds that “Jewish trauma”, not Palestinian behaviour, has ended in “the depiction of Palestinians as compulsive Jew-haters”.

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2020-07-1 ... one-state/
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In the current international system (using levers built by the Global North and quickly being encouraged by the Global South) there is NO legitimate avenue for non-state actors to express anger, and there is only legitimate violent responses to it from state actors.

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It's a lovely morning.
Blue sky! 19, a 'fresh' breeze, even one con trail... and now have to find out who Jedward is (are-- I see) ! All I rather vaguely know about RR is that she's some sort of witchfinder on our least favourite campaign. After checking BylineTimes on Whittingdale and a very real Enemy Within https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/24/swee ... ttingdale/ will go to check up on Oborne and Jonathan Cook on the latest ME badnews ...


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It's a lovely morning.
Blue sky! 19, a 'fresh' breeze, even one con trail... and now have to find out who Jedward is (are-- I see) ! All I rather vaguely know about RR is that she's some sort of witchfinder on our least favourite campaign. After checking BylineTimes on Whittingdale and a very real Enemy Within https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/24/swee ... ttingdale/ will go to check up on Oborne and Jonathan Cook on the latest ME badnews ...

Jedward were a 'talent' act on a TV show. Rather rubbish and annoying at the time. They have turned into rather amazing people, doing lots of actual good work with charities.

The Riley tweet: https://twitter.com/LisaHafey/status/12 ... 2683162626

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Carole returns to the attack --
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it is a duck. Britain has a national security problem. And his name is Boris Johnson.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-in-no-10


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It's a lovely morning.
Blue sky! 19, a 'fresh' breeze, even one con trail... and now have to find out who Jedward is (are-- I see) ! All I rather vaguely know about RR is that she's some sort of witchfinder on our least favourite campaign. After checking BylineTimes on Whittingdale and a very real Enemy Within https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/24/swee ... ttingdale/ will go to check up on Oborne and Jonathan Cook on the latest ME badnews ...

Jedward were a 'talent' act on a TV show. Rather rubbish and annoying at the time. They have turned into rather amazing people, doing lots of actual good work with charities.
The Riley tweet: https://twitter.com/LisaHafey/status/12 ... 2683162626
The Jedward reply: https://twitter.com/planetjedward/statu ... 8346266624

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Bribery: the one thing our leaders have made a success of
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Carole returns to the attack --
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it is a duck. Britain has a national security problem. And his name is Boris Johnson.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-in-no-10


Shame about her involvement in that distinctly shady Integrity Initiative thing.


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I'd like a Labour government sooner rather than later.
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"Donald Trump has said he has “no responsibility” for the coronavirus pandemic, fobbing it off on governors and mayors whose repeated requests for federal help he’s denied. Yet he’s now sending federal troops into cities he says are controlled by the “radical left”, whose mayors and governors don’t want them there.
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Trump has never offered a national strategy for testing, contact tracing and isolating those who have the disease. He has provided no standards for reopening the economy, no plan for national purchasing of critical materials, no definitive policy for helping the unemployed, no clear message about what people and businesses should do. He rushed to reopen without adequate safeguards."
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The Pandemic Response That Wasn't
Preparedness policies require a long view—but politicians tend to think short-term.
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"With unemployment estimated at 20% a result of COVID-19, Pollack Porter says that a solid policy response to this secondary crisis will be key to helping the U.S. recover from the pandemic. This pandemic has illustrated vast systemic failures, including an underfunded public health system, lack of safety for frontline workers, and the absence of social policies like paid sick leave."
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On 17 July, the Secretary of State asked Public Health England (PHE) to urgently review the way daily death statistics are currently reported.
We’re pausing the publication of the daily figure while this review takes place.
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As in the novels of Jane Austen, social mobility in Britain today appears dependent on the wealth you inherit or marry in to, rather than how much you can set aside from a pay packet
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... sufficient
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Household income inequality, UK: financial year ending 2020 (provisional)
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
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The S80/S20 ratio highlights that the richest fifth of people had a share of income that was over six times that for the poorest fifth in both FYE 2019 and FYE 2020. The income of the person at the 90th percentile was over four times the income of the person at the 10th percentile, while the Palma ratio highlights that the richest 10% of people accounted for a greater share of income than the poorest 40%.

These measures of inequality remain largely unchanged from the previous year.
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As in the novels of Jane Austen, social mobility in Britain today appears dependent on the wealth you inherit or marry in to, rather than how much you can set aside from a pay packet
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... sufficient
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The economist Thomas Piketty estimated that half of all UK private wealth is inherited rather than earned. A wealth tax is necessary but not sufficient. The political priority is to help working people build up savings. To level up Britain, there will have to be higher wages from labour and also policies that lead, in the words of John Maynard Keynes, to the (metaphorical) “euthanasia of the rentier” so that the intelligence, skill and determination of the entrepreneur can be “harnessed to the service of the community on reasonable terms of reward”.
Similar the exponential growth of Covid if left unchecked, the proportion of income going to workers has been shrinking for c30 years , leading to so much precarity and outright poverty ...


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I've been watching a DVD of an old TV series from the early 70s.

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So...that's the new Joint Bio-security Centre, right?

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I've been watching a DVD of an old TV series from the early 70s.

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So...that's the new Joint Bio-security Centre, right?
Some bright spark will be patentng the 'wheel' next :) :) :) :) :)


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ocial-care
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Over-40s in UK to pay more tax under plans to fix social care crisis


The article mentions schemes in Germany and Japan, both of which I'm sure have merit, but I can't help but feel the UK urgently needs to do something about the following (admittedly a couple of years old but still the case, I believd) before it heaps yet more demands on the shrinking purchasing power of a middle-aged generation that has continually been expected to pay for things like higher education and disproportionate housing costs out of lower relative wages against a backdrop of declining social security & increasing retirement age. We once afforded basic necessities for all out of general taxation. When the economy 'recovered' from the global financial crash, why didn't our ability to provide services and social care recover to a similar level? A reasonable question, I suggest.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 76736.html
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