Monday 27th July 2020
Posted: Mon 27 Jul, 2020 7:07 am
Morning all.
Producer: Sue Mitchell Presented by Dr Fozia HayatFozia was surprised to be bombarded with fake news as she worked on the covid wards and even more shocked to discover that some of the messages were coming from prominent people in the local community. They accused doctors of forcing people to sign Do Not Resuscitate forms, suggested that Covid-19 didn’t actually exist and one even told her she would be: “held responsible in the court of Allah for the deaths of these people, for negligence in this life, and life is very short.”
“I’ve been sent a message saying that NHS workers are working on bonuses, that we’re taking money for putting Covid on death certificates and we are essentially taking money for life. And I think that’s a really cruel thing to say to someone,” said Fozia.
She talks to a patient on the hospital’s intensive care unit, Mohammed Azeem, who says he deliberately put off coming to hospital because he’d been hearing the claims on social media. By the time an ambulance was called he was dangerously ill and had to be placed straight on a ventilator. His life hung in the balance for weeks and his mother died before he regained consciousness. He says he has realised the dangers of fake news and wants to help alert others.
As part of her investigation Fozia challenges some of those behind the conspiracy theories which are so prevalent online. She speaks to the anti-5G campaigner, Mark Steel, who says that no one is safe from the alleged impact of 5G and the latest electromagnetic wave induced pandemic. She also hears from a hospital worker who admits to following the conspiracy theories and siding with them even in light of the impact she sees on the wards and her medical training.
In the African community the fear is prevalent in a group of mothers she meets: they are so worried that even if a vaccine became available they wouldn’t think about taking it. One woman tells her that covid-19 is a device being used to eradicate different ethnic groups and that no one is safe. The higher death rate amongst the BAME community is just further evidence that a cleansing policy of some kind is in operation.
Fozia laments the problems fake news is causing on the wards at her hospital, the Bradford Royal Infirmary, which serves a very diverse community. Her colleague, Dr Sam Khan, shares a video his parents have seen circulating on major news channels in Pakistan. It purports to show how vaccines distributed by Bill Gates involve secret microchips. Dr Khan believes the fears were partly fuelled by the hospital’s justifiable policy of not allowing visitors at the start of the pandemic.
In Accident and Emergency Fozia chats to Dr Dave Greenhorn and Sister Emma Clinton, who recently saw a patient too ill to save. Following his death from covid-19 his children turned on them, accusing medical staff of giving their father a lethal injection. For Emma and Dave it was a harrowing moment and it really hit home how difficult the task ahead is. Even publicising the good news stories and focusing on patients who get better and go home does not detract from the widespread fear.
Quite. Those wanting us to "take back control" ought to be asked whether this was what they meant...Speaking to the BBC's Carolyn Quinn, Sir Lindsay said Parliament should be the place in which MPs and the public found out what was happening.
"You know the worry I've had - that statements should be made to the House first," he said. "Once you've made that statement, by all means go and have a press conference. But do it after, not before.
"If there's something new to come out and you want to tell the world, tell Parliament and let the world watch it from Parliament's eyes."
dittoAnatolyKasparov wrote:Good morefternoon, all.
I was unprepared for how sad I feel about thisA pet cat has tested positive for coronavirus, the government has said. It is the first case of an animal in the UK having the virus.
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Commons Speaker Lindsay Hoyle 'worried' by No 10 TV briefings plans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53533809" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Quite. Those wanting us to "take back control" ought to be asked whether this was what they meant...Speaking to the BBC's Carolyn Quinn, Sir Lindsay said Parliament should be the place in which MPs and the public found out what was happening.
"You know the worry I've had - that statements should be made to the House first," he said. "Once you've made that statement, by all means go and have a press conference. But do it after, not before.
"If there's something new to come out and you want to tell the world, tell Parliament and let the world watch it from Parliament's eyes."
the chlorine kills virusfrog222 wrote:Indoor Swimming ??????????
Eldest grandson and his father are in the water though it's blowing half a gale !
Of to the beach .
I'm glad Hoyle did this.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Though bringing this sort of thing more into the open is in itself a good thing (rather than the likes of Laura K and Pesto being obedient factotums for off the record Cummings burblings)
Fascinating storycitizenJA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ventilator
I want to know more about how Vietnam kept it's COVID-19 infection rate so low and have had zero mortalities.
I heard this from my hairdresser last week, her husband works in the NHS and he knows.frog222 wrote: My Name Is Fozia
that we’re taking money for putting Covid on death certificates
Because the shit hasn't hit the fan yet?why have Johnson’s voters stayed so loyal?
So they'll love Brexit when it actually happens then.What unites Boris Johnson’s voters is not so much their economic experience, as their values. They prioritise the nation and the national community. They prefer stability over change. And they favour continuity over disruption and discontinuity.
Thatcher made mistakes, Johnson does it deliberately. IMO.Mrs Thatcher who, like Johnson, tapped into a much broader coalition by expressing her belief in Britain and the British people. Thatcher, like Johnson, made mistakes.
Ah, its Badwin.gilsey wrote:I don't know whether to recommend people to read this, it's, er, interesting.
Why Boris Johnson keeps on winning
Because the shit hasn't hit the fan yet?why have Johnson’s voters stayed so loyal?
So they'll love Brexit when it actually happens then.What unites Boris Johnson’s voters is not so much their economic experience, as their values. They prioritise the nation and the national community. They prefer stability over change. And they favour continuity over disruption and discontinuity.
Thatcher made mistakes, Johnson does it deliberately. IMO.Mrs Thatcher who, like Johnson, tapped into a much broader coalition by expressing her belief in Britain and the British people. Thatcher, like Johnson, made mistakes.
Once you see the racist, lying, corrupt, misogynistic shitbag for what he really is, it's hard to unsee it and view Johnson as others do. If, indeed, they genuinely do view him as anything other than a grubby little spiv who champions tax dodgers and grifters. He's Del Boy, without the nice bits. A con man. And boy, do the British public enjoy being conned. "Get your world beating track and trace system here, genuine German-quality parts but for a fraction of the price".gilsey wrote:I don't know whether to recommend people to read this, it's, er, interesting.
Why Boris Johnson keeps on winning
Because the shit hasn't hit the fan yet?why have Johnson’s voters stayed so loyal?
So they'll love Brexit when it actually happens then.What unites Boris Johnson’s voters is not so much their economic experience, as their values. They prioritise the nation and the national community. They prefer stability over change. And they favour continuity over disruption and discontinuity.
Thatcher made mistakes, Johnson does it deliberately. IMO.Mrs Thatcher who, like Johnson, tapped into a much broader coalition by expressing her belief in Britain and the British people. Thatcher, like Johnson, made mistakes.
Some of them, mostly a) English and b) older. No surprise they form the bulk of the readership for our "world beating" newspapers.Willow904 wrote:Once you see the racist, lying, corrupt, misogynistic shitbag for what he really is, it's hard to unsee it and view Johnson as others do. If, indeed, they genuinely do view him as anything other than a grubby little spiv who champions tax dodgers and grifters. He's Del Boy, without the nice bits. A con man. And boy, do the British public enjoy being conned. "Get your world beating track and trace system here, genuine German-quality parts but for a fraction of the price".gilsey wrote:I don't know whether to recommend people to read this, it's, er, interesting.
Why Boris Johnson keeps on winning
Because the shit hasn't hit the fan yet?why have Johnson’s voters stayed so loyal?
So they'll love Brexit when it actually happens then.What unites Boris Johnson’s voters is not so much their economic experience, as their values. They prioritise the nation and the national community. They prefer stability over change. And they favour continuity over disruption and discontinuity.
Thatcher made mistakes, Johnson does it deliberately. IMO.Mrs Thatcher who, like Johnson, tapped into a much broader coalition by expressing her belief in Britain and the British people. Thatcher, like Johnson, made mistakes.
By the time the wheels come off, he'll be long gone.
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"I have been in constant contact with officials and industry representatives since I arrived in Spain on Saturday afternoon, when I received the data and decided with colleagues to make the difficult decision to introduce quarantine.
"However I think it is right to get back to work in the UK as soon as possible in order to help handle the situation. ""
They may not have really wanted to win, but the leave campaign was taken over by those - like Banks, Cummings and Farage - who actually did.RogerOThornhill wrote:Johnson may keep on winning but if you look at London, there is no way that a Tory will be elected as mayor which is why they're desperately trying to think of ways to abolish the post. People tend to realise with him that there really is nothing of any substance, just eye-catching (and costly) gimmicks.
The comparisons with Thatcher are surface-level - for all her faults, and yes she did u-turn (quietly) on some matters but she did have something behind her to back up her beliefs. Johnson has none - he's a sophist, capable of arguing for one case or the opposite at the drop of a hat. That story about him writing two articles - one leave, one remain - is no one-off.
And the picture of him and Gove looking really crestfallen the morning after was a "Shit - what have we done. We could have easily accepted defeat with a good grace and everyone would forget in time. But now we have to get on and do it"
Indeed.AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Ah, its Badwin.
Seeing he was the author was quite enough.
Though we shouldn't forget how bad things were under "Maggie" at times, especially her ever more insane final years as PM.gilsey wrote:Indeed.AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Ah, its Badwin.
Seeing he was the author was quite enough.
I wasn't sure why it caught my attention but eventually worked out that when anyone compares Johnson to Thatcher, it makes me feel like sticking up for her.
An unfamiliar and uncomfortable feeling.
Strange times.
According to the Fail.Downing Street today dismissed reports that the Government is planning to force all over-40s to pay more tax to fund their social care.
The Prime Minister's Official Spokesman said it was 'not true that we are considering this policy'.
ramping upfrog222 wrote:Lots of "capacity" , but ................ ?
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