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Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 6:50 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 9:06 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Fancy that!

PM's child poverty claims 'inaccurate,' says statistics watchdog

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53588275" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Boris Johnson has made a number of inaccurate claims about child poverty levels since coming to power, the UK's statistics watchdog has said.

The PM has argued that poverty levels have come down under his government.

But the Office for Statistics Regulation (OSR) said some of the figures he has quoted to back this claim up are incorrect.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 12:18 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Good morefternoon, all.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 1:14 pm
by frog222
Whenever djt appears 'normal', I wonder WTH they've put in his diet coke, then it wears off !
" Jennifer Rubin, a Washington Post columnist, wrote on Tuesday: “The media’s fetish with ‘tone’ seems to tell us more about the media than Trump. It is part of the mainstream media’s collective determination to avoid spelling out how irrational and impulsive he actually is.”

The media engages in “gaslighting” by disingenuously presenting Trump as a rational president, Rubin added. “The media’s acknowledgment of the frightening reality we have lived with for four years will come, I suspect, only after Trump leaves office.” "
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... lways-does" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a list of the journo gaslighters ...

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 1:21 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
With few exceptions, modern MSM journalists are like dogs - brilliant at picking up tone, not so much on actual content.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 2:21 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I doubt anyone's surprised by this...
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
1:46 PM · Jul 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
As DAG said "Nice try"...

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 2:43 pm
by RogerOThornhill
And Charlie Elphicke found guilty of sexual assault of two women.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 2:55 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Ah, lucky there was a GE before that got sorted.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 5:04 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Indeed.

It has not been forgotten that his Party gave him back the whip for a crucial vote after he'd been suspended...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... hip-to-him" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 5:18 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Not the greatest news day from a Tory perspective - their Scottish leader Jackson Carlaw has just resigned.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 6:24 pm
by citizenJA
frog222 wrote:Whenever djt appears 'normal', I wonder WTH they've put in his diet coke, then it wears off !
" Jennifer Rubin, a Washington Post columnist, wrote on Tuesday: “The media’s fetish with ‘tone’ seems to tell us more about the media than Trump. It is part of the mainstream media’s collective determination to avoid spelling out how irrational and impulsive he actually is.”

The media engages in “gaslighting” by disingenuously presenting Trump as a rational president, Rubin added. “The media’s acknowledgment of the frightening reality we have lived with for four years will come, I suspect, only after Trump leaves office.” "
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... lways-does" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a list of the journo gaslighters ...
(cJA bold)

I've recently written about a specific instance of the media phenomenon though I don't think Mr. Sparrow (politics live blog Guardian) is intentionally gaslighting. I might be biased in his favour. I've a personal fondness for Sparrow; I often strenuously disagree with him but I've known his work a lot of years. I thought Sparrow 's PMQ's snap verdict on 22 July 2020 puzzling. Johnson's responses in the House were incoherent.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 6:30 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:With few exceptions, modern MSM journalists are like dogs - brilliant at picking up tone, not so much on actual content.
Agreed. I'm not being condescending or generally hostile towards them as individuals in this context. If I were working in their environment, I'd most likely write as they do too. The nature of mainstream journalism and other circumstances contribute to this being so.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 6:46 pm
by citizenJA
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
1:46 pm · 30 Jul 2020
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(cJA bold)
:shock:
Ellen L Weintraub
@Ellen L Weintraub
No, Mr. President. No. You don't have the power to move the election. Nor should it be moved. States and localities are asking you and Congress for funds so they can properly run the safe and secure elections all Americans want. Why don't you work on that?
2:46 pm · 30 Jul 2020
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Ellen L Weintraub is US Federal Election Commission

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 6:49 pm
by frog222
” someday someone will make a movie about the downfall of this US government…it will be called

‘Gone With the Windbag'”

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 7:04 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Trump must surely know that the POTUS has no power to postpone an election - only Congress can do that.

(and, needless to say, isn't going to)

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 8:28 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I know the guy who runs Pimlico Plumbers a bit of an arse but even so...

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Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 9:20 pm
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:I know the guy who runs Pimlico Plumbers a bit of an arse but even so...

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Pimlico
@PimlicoPlumbers
To all the cycle fascists and their TFL pals who think they know how to run my business: http://ow.ly/2rrd50AMpLY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I’ve had enough of cycle fascists whining about their precious road space when what they really want is to run all non-cycles off the road; and I’m also sick of the bike bureaucrats who have taken over TFL, and who as we speak are painting great swathes of Central London's roads blue, making it next to impossible to run any kind of service business.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 9:25 pm
by citizenJA
Read Pimlico's blog and linked tweet
It's scary

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 9:51 pm
by citizenJA
The Independent
@Independent
· 28m
New lockdown restrictions put in place in north of England following spike in coronavirus transmission
9:20 pm · 30 Jul 2020
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Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 9:56 pm
by citizenJA
Separate households will not be allowed to meet indoors in Greater Manchester, East Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire from midnight, the government has announced.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said an "increasing rate of transmission" had been identified in those areas.

"The spread is largely due to households meeting and not abiding to social distancing," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tom Hamilton
@thhamilton
Does “separate households meeting indoors” amount to a ban on pubs and restaurants? If you take those words literally then it does but it isn’t clear, it might just mean you can’t go to other people’s houses.
9:54 pm · 30 Jul 2020
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Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 10:12 pm
by citizenJA
Apparently, meeting in gardens is banned but going to pubs or restaurants is okay
The announcement isn't very clear

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 10:21 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote: The announcement isn't very clear
No change there, then.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 10:35 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote: The announcement isn't very clear
No change there, then.
government dispensing contradictory bits of information late on Thursday night

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 10:56 pm
by frog222
Yet another angry local criticism of the DIDO SERCO System --
A council struggling to stave off a coronavirus local lockdown has got so fed up with perceived failures with the government's contact tracing system that it is setting up its own version.

Sandwell's director of public health, Lisa McNally, told Sky News that dozens of staff had been seconded to the new team to battle COVID-19 outbreaks in the area.

Sandwell, in the West Midlands, currently has the seventh highest case rate in England - 54.1 per 100,000 people - having seen a sharp jump of 332% in the 14 days up to 26 July.

"I wouldn't quite go as far as to say we've given up on Test and Trace, but we're not happy with just allowing them to do their job anymore," Ms McNally said.

"I just don't see the urgency to fix this; I really don't see them running around in a panic."

The council has instead decided to set up its own system to deliver "a lite version of contact tracing" to plug the gaps of people with the virus not being reached.

Language has been a particular barrier amid a struggle to provide staff with translation services to help them communicate with people who don't speak English.

"As soon as the new case comes in now we're not waiting for Test and Trace to fail to reach them, we're phoning them the same day," Ms McNally said.

"We will have a language speaker available for them, immediately - if we find out they only speak Punjabi, Urdu, Arabic etc - so we can first of all give the important messages that they need to know.

"We can also do a lite version of contact tracing, in that we can ask them if they've been to any social events, to prayers on a Friday, to Gurdwara.

"And if, of course, they have been within a 48-hour period before they tested positive or have symptoms, we will then alert that setting to say you've had a confirmed case in your setting and here's the action you need to take.

"So we're immediately filling that gap in ourselves."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-s ... 00708.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NN

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Thu 30 Jul, 2020 11:27 pm
by citizenJA
I'm terrified.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Fri 31 Jul, 2020 12:28 am
by citizenJA
Press release
New rules on gatherings in some parts of Northern England

The Health Secretary Matt Hancock has this evening announced that new rules on social gatherings will be introduced in Northern England to stop the spread of COVID-19. These changes will also apply in Leicester city.

This is in response to an increasing trend in the number of cases per 100,000 people in the area, and data from PHE and the JBC which suggests transmission among households is a key infection pathway in the area.
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Households may go to hospitality, for instance bars and pubs, but new guidance will make clear that two households should not go to hospitality together.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... rn-england" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This effort isn't even good enough for satire. But it's government policy.

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Fri 31 Jul, 2020 12:29 am
by citizenJA
new rules on gatherings in some parts of northern england
jesus

Re: Thursday 30th July 2020

Posted: Fri 31 Jul, 2020 12:30 am
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
P.S. I'll sound off if the situation here gets worse