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"NHS" test and trace app won't take covid test results from NHS in branding misfire non-shocker.

Bumbling Boris and the terrible Tories have managed to privatise a pandemic.

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Bumbling Boris and the terrible Tories have managed to privatise a pandemic.



That just about sums it up.


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Robert Halfon (Chair of the Commons Education Select Committee) is being interviewed on Sky TV news and was asked about the latest track and trace farce. I've lost count of how many times this Conservative MP has refused to admit that it's a failure and how many times he has claimed that he "is not a member of the Government" (as distinct from "not a member of the Cabinet"). Under normal circumstances I might have been amused by watching him squirm.


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"NHS" test and trace app won't take covid test results from NHS in branding misfire non-shocker.

Bumbling Boris and the terrible Tories have managed to privatise a pandemic.

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I am (honestly) a good citizen who has been waiting and waiting for improvements in t/t/i to make public transport safer but I can't bring myself to download and use this. I don't trust it or them at all.

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FAUCI SAYS THE CORONAVIRUS IS AIRBORNE—it’s not official until the Fauci sings. And Dr Fauci has come out strongly:
“Bottomline, there’s much more aerosol than we thought”. #COVID19
Moreover, #SARSCoV2 also found in:
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If your test took place in a Public Health England lab or NHS hospital, or as part of national surveillance testing conducted by the Office for National Statistics, test results cannot currently be linked with the app whether they’re positive or negative.

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The testing app doesn't include tests done in the NHS, for example
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We are urgently working on a solution to allow positive tests for people who haven’t already been given a code to be added to the #NHSCOVID19app.
For those who don’t have a code, the contact tracers will shortly be able to provide these to insert in the app.
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The app makers didn't realise not including everyone testing positive was a problem less than twenty-four hours ago. How can we be confident about this?


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I would like to confirm that the rumours about me are untrue.

I am still alive.

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Its not actually him, but yeah :)


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
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I would like to confirm that the rumours about me are untrue.

I am still alive.

The Tories are still c*nts.
1:26 pm · 26 Sep 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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Its not actually him, but yeah :)
I feel foolish


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Afternoon all.

The state of this...

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BREAKING: Boris Johnson has asked former Mail editor Paul Dacre to run thr broadcasting watchdog Ofcom. Charles Moore is close to a done deal to be BBC chairman


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Hopefully that's just kite flying.


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Well these are interesting...Labur leade Tories for the first time since...when exactly?

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/stat ... 8645373952

And look at Starmer's ratings against the PM.

Oh dear...mind you Farage is even worse.

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Oops.

https://twitter.com/stephenpollard/stat ... 1188719619

Very revealing that nobody has mentioned this thus far given the outrage over Corbyn writing a foreward for a book that was on many university reading lists.

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Well his acting career has ground to a halt since he outed himself as a total bellend so why not?

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That's the first Labour lead in any poll for over a year (and I think only the second since Johnson became PM)

Re the book you mention by Hobson, just a few years earlier Clegg lavished praise on him in a lecture but that doesn't count for some reason.


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And apparently Fox wants to reform the BBC...as someone pointed out the timing of that given the news of the likely appointments of Dacre and Moore is...unfortunate.

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I know the story about the catholic sect that Trump's likely SC pick is from being one of the inspirations for The Handmaid's Tale has been officially denied but it's still a good story.

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And apparently Fox wants to reform the BBC...as someone pointed out the timing of that given the news of the likely appointments of Dacre and Moore is...unfortunate.


It's too woke. It doesn't spend enough time actually stuffing burning rags through non-white families' letter boxes or punching lesbians in the face.

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It seems to be the season for right wingers with a thing about self-promotion to start a new party

https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/ ... 2743115777

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Good news! I am starting the Heritage Party.
Find out more at http://heritageparty.org


Splitting the right wing vote? Excellent news.

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DfE categorises idea as ‘extreme political stance’ equating to endorsing illegal activity
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Can someone let me know if anyone is profiting from students in their accommodation, please? I'm not looking to have a go at universities, that's not why I ask the question. I don't know much about on campus dorm rooms in the UK.


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Schools in England told not to use anti-capitalist material in teaching

DfE categorises idea as ‘extreme political stance’ equating to endorsing illegal activity
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/27/uk-schools-told-not-to-use-anti-capitalist-material-in-teaching


I'm sort of hoping this comes under the category of banning something that never happens anyway. I'm really not in favour of schools using educational materials provided by private outside organisation as a rule. Stuff about cleaning your teeth properly from the NHS is one thing but a lot of stuff these days comes from private corporations and it's all potentially damaging propaganda as far as I'm concerned (and certainly not of the anti-capitalist kind). I'd like to see a move away from relying on donations of educational materials of varied and often dubious quality from God knows who and towards better resourced schools that can produce their own or buy all the educational materials they need from experienced educational publishers with a proven track record of quality, unbiased teaching resources.

Of course I know that's not what this is about but wouldn't it be great if schools took this as a signal to eject the corporate sector from education, because ultimately how are they to judge which private organisations have "extreme political stances". Better to be safe than sorry and ban them all.

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Can someone let me know if anyone is profiting from students in their accommodation, please? I'm not looking to have a go at universities, that's not why I ask the question. I don't know much about on campus dorm rooms in the UK.


When student numbers were more restricted and predictable, universities used to have enough halls on campus that they themselves owned outright to accommodate all first years while the rest would move into the private sector, having found friends to rent a house out with. These days though, many universities don't have enough space for all the extra students they can now admit so private investment companies have been building private sector accommodation that are more like halls and rented out by room. They can be easier than finding people to rent a house with but tend to be expensive and, significantly, often only just or not even built yet. Thus if the students don't move in the company that is heavily in debt from building them will likely go bust, buildings will be left half finished etc.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54308329

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Covid: Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden defends students' university return

Students have been told to isolate in their accommodation at several universities in England and Scotland, including around 1,700 students at Manchester Metropolitan University - where students said they were being prevented from leaving by security guards and police.

Ellie Jackson, a first-year at Manchester Met..."We've been told, if we leave, we can't come back." Fellow student Jaimick Shah said his flatmates had all tested negative but still had to isolate. "We're struggling to get food because everyone is trying to order it at the same time," he said.
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Can someone let me know if anyone is profiting from students in their accommodation, please? I'm not looking to have a go at universities, that's not why I ask the question. I don't know much about on campus dorm rooms in the UK.

When student numbers were more restricted and predictable, universities used to have enough halls on campus that they themselves owned outright to accommodate all first years while the rest would move into the private sector, having found friends to rent a house out with. These days though, many universities don't have enough space for all the extra students they can now admit so private investment companies have been building private sector accommodation that are more like halls and rented out by room. They can be easier than finding people to rent a house with but tend to be expensive and, significantly, often only just or not even built yet. Thus if the students don't move in the company that is heavily in debt from building them will likely go bust, buildings will be left half finished etc.
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How does the UK compare with other countries?
The Our World in Data website shows that in countries’ seven day averages up to 14 September the UK had carried out 2.8 tests per 1000 people, higher than most other European countries, including France (2.1 per 1000) and Spain and Germany (both 1.8).
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Germany had fewer cases of CV19 to test because they more effectively treated & isolated those infected by it.


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Can someone let me know if anyone is profiting from students in their accommodation, please?


Other than the Universities in Leeds it's mainly rip-off landlords in the Hyde Park area renting out slum back to back houses. I lived in one while I was a student and it was horrible. Damp leeching through the wallpaper so our front room looked like someone had been pissing up the wall, a basement that would fill with pools of stinking stagnant water when it rained, once when an exterior pipe broke the contents of our toilet were spilling out onto the street and the landlord did nothing about it for days so I had to borrow a ladder and fix it myself. They're supposed to be inspected and certified by the University but that's obvious nonsense. So yes there are plenty of people profiting from jamming as many students as they can into small, poorly maintained houses and we're seeing the results of that right now.


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EXCLUSIVE Laurence Fox is launching a new political party to fight the culture wars, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal
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:D

Well his acting career has ground to a halt since he outed himself as a total bellend so why not?


And his music career such as it was, he apparently played at the Brudenell sometime pre-covid and someone who works there told a friend of mine that only about 15 people turned up and half of them were there to heckle him. Laurence didn't take this well and walked off after 4 songs, which would seem to me to be the behaviour of a massive snowflake. As is so often the case people like him like to dish it out but aren't quite so good at taking it.


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He has been described as "Britain's ultimate divorced man" :)


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I love you all, my friends & family. The last nine months in particular have been difficult. Mr citizen and I feel deeply weary. I want hiking, eating baked goods and talking (or just sitting quiet) with my loved ones. I want to make it happen. I won't cause harm. I'll not expose myself or others to danger. I often feel trapped.
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Good on the NYT - long quote from the US politics blog at the graun

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As we wait for Donald Trump to take the podium in the White House briefing room, the New York Times reveals it has obtained the US president’s tax return data for thousands of personal and corporate returns going back more than two decades.

Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750.

He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.

The Times report also reveals the financial pressure on Trump is mounting as he is personally responsible for loans and other debts totaling $421m, with most of it coming due within four years.

“Should he win re-election, his lenders could be placed in the unprecedented position of weighing whether to foreclose on a sitting president,” it reads.

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New York Times publishes Trump's tax information

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Remember that Julius Caesar bloke?

He made himself a dictator to protect himself from bad debts and prosecution.

Didn't end well for him as far as I recall.


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“Even while declaring losses, he has managed to enjoy a lavish lifestyle by taking tax deductions on what most people would consider personal expenses, including residences, aircraft and $70,000 in hairstyling for television,” the Times reported on Sunday.


$70,000 for Trumps 'hair'? It would seem disability benefits are extravagantly generous in the U.S.


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Having read the NYT article here's the gist of it.

Trump is a scammer who has taken the money he made from 'The Apprentice' and his properties, invested it in his golf courses, etc and claimed those latter make such catastrophic losses that he's not liable for federal income tax.

As you would expect he's taken advantage of every tax avoidance wheeze imaginable, including tax refunds offered by Obama to businesses struggling after the 2008 crash, in 2009 Trump claimed to have lost $700 million (probably his casinos) for which he claimed a $72.9 million refund, which auditors for the IRS are investigating and could cost him $100 million in back payments and fines.

But that's the least of his worries, he's been selling off stock and this July according to his own financial records he has only $873,000 left to sell while personally guaranteeing (acting as his own guarantor) $421 million of debt.

I mentioned Caesar for a reason, this is exactly what he did, promoted himself and gained power to protect himself from his creditors and the law.

2000 years later it would appear no lessons have been learned whatsoever. So much for the vaunted checks and balances of their sacred constitution.


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Donald Trump is either the business mastermind that he likes to present himself as, or everything he touches is an abject failure. He, hopefully, can't have it both ways.

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New York Times publishes Donald Trump's tax returns in election bombshell

Paper details $750 federal income tax payments in 2016, 2017
Information ‘does not reveal unreported Russia connections’
Trump’s taxes: key findings from the New York Times report

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/27/new-york-times-publishes-donald-trumps-tax-returns-election


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