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Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:45 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:26 am
by gilsey
Good morning.

Oh look, a start on that National Education Service Labour are promising.

Adults in England without A-levels to get free college course

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:03 am
by gilsey
Ice cubes! :lol:


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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:30 am
by AnatolyKasparov
I mean, what a very strange thing to say.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 1:38 pm
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon. As far as I understand it . . .

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 2:12 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Johnson telling us all this morning how incredibly fit and healthy he is, apparently. I'm sure that will convince everyone!

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 2:23 pm
by gilsey
He really is worse than we thought he would be, hard as that is.

Then there's Helen Whately and now Gillian Keegan. That noise is the bottom of the barrel being scraped.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 2:45 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
I fear we haven't reached the absolute bottom in that regard.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 5:21 pm
by PorFavor
Former Sainsbury's chief executive replaces NHS boss as testing director at test and trace
(Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 5:34 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Hmmm, is this good?

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:10 pm
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Hmmm, is this good?
I shouldn't think so. I doubt if he's doing it for his health. Or, more to the point, anyone else's health.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:27 pm
by RogerOThornhill
So...the number of politicians who have used Build Back Better before the PM used it today seems to be rising every time they look...

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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:30 pm
by PorFavor
Labour's Shadow Health Secretary Jon Ashworth tweeted: "How about putting those trained in actual infectious disease control in charge of Test and Trace?" (Mirror)

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:31 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
We can't have that, Dom's mates won't get plum jobs then.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 6:39 pm
by Willow904
The system will still be centralised and divorced from local councils and public health teams, regardless of who's in charge. No doubt part of "operation moonshot", pay-for-test services from your local supermarket, which will no doubt be as successful as "operation last gasp".

Incidentally, I have now been drawn into the vortex of incompetence that is 21st century Tory Britain. My daughter has a persistent cough. Only tests available are 66 miles away in another country in a lockdown area I'm not even sure I'm supposed to travel to. No home tests available. Absolute joke.

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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 8:48 pm
by Willow904
Well, the system, after many refreshed pages, finally relented and gave me a covid test slot at the mobile testing unit 6 miles up the road for tomorrow. I'm not sure I filled the form in right, there didn't seem to be a way of indicating it was being filled in by someone else on behalf of a child. I've been finding government forms more and more bewildering of late and I'm not sure it's them or me! Wish me luck.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 8:50 pm
by PorFavor
@Willow904

Good luck!

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 9:26 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
Good luck Willow and daughter of Willow.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 9:37 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Johnson telling us all this morning how incredibly fit and healthy he is, apparently. I'm sure that will convince everyone!
Yes I noticed that too, fit as a butcher's dog he said.

Any butcher with a dog that looks jowly, bloated and haggard with skin resembling cold tapioca pudding both in colour and texture should be reported immediately to the RSPCA.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:00 pm
by gilsey
Conservatives
@Conservatives
BREAKING: Labour just voted to side with the EU once again.

By voting against the UK Internal Market Bill – which will guarantee seamless trade between the home nations of the UK - they've shown they won’t stand up to Brussels or protect the United Kingdom from the SNP.
Who writes this stuff? Protect the UK from the SNP?

Do we think there's anyone out there who takes this crap seriously?

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:03 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
Internal market bill passed by Commons despite Tory concerns

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... y-concerns
Lord Neuberger, former president of the supreme court, has condemned the bill as a “flagrant breach” of the UK’s international law obligations that would “muzzle” British courts.

He asked how the government, which is passing some “pretty draconian” laws through Covid-19 health regulations, could expect people to obey them if it is “seen to be breaking its obligations on the international law stage”.
Well quite.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:16 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
gilsey wrote:Do we think there's anyone out there who takes this crap seriously?
Having read some of the comments under the BBC article about the passing of the bill it appears there's quite a few happy to lap that shit up and guzzle it down.

The irony of course being that through this very act of backsliding treachery the Tory Party have opened the door to the SNP holding an independence referendum whenever they like and if the Tories complain this can be waved back in their faces.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:28 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:
Conservatives
@Conservatives
BREAKING: Labour just voted to side with the EU once again.

By voting against the UK Internal Market Bill – which will guarantee seamless trade between the home nations of the UK - they've shown they won’t stand up to Brussels or protect the United Kingdom from the SNP.
Who writes this stuff? Protect the UK from the SNP?

Do we think there's anyone out there who takes this crap seriously?
Loads of people took the SNP scare crap seriously in 2014-2015, though I do think that is something many are more wised up to now.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 10:44 pm
by RogerOThornhill
What the hell is this?

Are they sitting round a table thinking "Now, what can we do to out do the last crazy idea?"

Matthew Garrahan
@MattGarrahan
NEW: Priti Patel asked the UK home office to explore sending asylum seekers to Ascension Island, a volcanic outcrop in the middle of the Atlantic. Mad scoop from
@GeorgeWParker
@pmdfoster
@SebastianEPayne
:toss:

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:08 pm
by PorFavor
St Helena is also in the running, according to Sky TV news.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:13 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
That seems quite liberal for Priti.

Why not just dump them in the Sargasso Sea to float around on seaweed and plastic rubbish?

Or throw them overboard in the Bermuda Triangle and let the alien, time travelling sea monsters deal with them?

Both would certainly be a lot cheaper than wasting a huge amount of public money on a stunt that would have seen her own parents locked up on a volcano.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:14 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Tory council leader condemns PM's 'unacceptable' Covid restrictions

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David Greenhalgh, the council leader in Bolton, one of the UK’s worst-hit areas, said government handling of the measures was “breeding resentment” among “red wall” voters who switched to the Conservatives in December’s general election.

“It’s become too complex, too complicated. The amount of resentment that’s built up now because of the unfairness. People feel very let down, they feel frustrated, there’s a lot of anger,” he told the Guardian.

“At the moment we just feel very forgotten and, I’ll be honest, the fact that I’m a Conservative leader and I’m appealing to my own government – it’s not a great position to be in.”
Yeah well, hopefully they won't make the same mistake again of thinking that Tories will ever look after them.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:35 pm
by RogerOThornhill
In other news 'er indoors went to see the consultant today and got a good report - they took out everything that was nasty and most of the dressings are off.

I was going with her - not because I could go in with her as this is still not allowed - but I was going to have a wander round Whitechapel to take some pics. Sadly the weather meant that wrestling with a camera while holding an umbrella didn't appeal...

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:39 pm
by PorFavor
You and Joe Biden both find umbrellas a challenge, then.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Tue 29 Sep, 2020 11:46 pm
by RogerOThornhill
PorFavor wrote:You and Joe Biden both find umbrellas a challenge, then.
:D

On their own no.

One trip I made was worse as I had umbrella, laser measurer, notebook, pen and camera. That was kinda tricky.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:09 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
I was about to ask what Bolton's excuse was for having such a high rate of infection when it obviously doesn't have a university but it turns out it does have one and now I feel like a massive snob.

The question does remain however, why is this not happening in the South?

From Reading across London to Canterbury then Portsmouth and Southampton on the coast we're not seeing the same kind of student led outbreaks that Scotland and the North of England are facing.

Is it merely a question of time or is there something else going on?

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:45 am
by PorFavor
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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:02 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:16 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:27 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
Grace Slick gets it right.

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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:32 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:45 am
by PorFavor
I like to lighten the mood sometimes -

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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:46 am
by PorFavor
I'll have to look out some more of Dick Cavett.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:49 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
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Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:58 am
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Tuesday 29th September 2020

Posted: Wed 30 Sep, 2020 1:58 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
I've got nothing.

You win.