Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th October 2020

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 9:03 am

Morning all.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:39 am

Good morning all, I wonder how Ben Bradley is going to embarrass himself today?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:45 am

A period of silence would be welcome.

Really, he makes Nicky Morgan look like an amateur.

That Civil Service tweet twice a day (fan account)
@ThatCivilTweet
Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:56 am

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Toby Earle
@TobyonTV
Level 1:
1) Ben Bradley draws a school into his argument
2) School disagrees with him
3) Ben Bradley says he doesn’t want to draw a school into an argument
4) Naga Munchetty points out he has

There's a video attached to the tweet if you want to see it. The thing that's staggering about this is the way Ben Bradley seems to be implying Marcus Rashford doesn't know what it's really like in state schools. Rashford is only 22, he was literally attending a state school himself just a few years ago, compared to the privately educated Bradley whose only knowledge of state schools is the brief meet and greets he's done as an MP. This arrogance, this assumption that class position equals superior knowledge, is a British disease that riddles our managerial and political classes like a cancer, consuming empathy and compassion and leaving nothing but an empty shell of entitled twattishness.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:03 am

I just wanted to share this again from citizenJA yesterday:

Individuals sharing what they've got is great and I wholeheartedly thank them. I don't like charity. It's inefficient, it's regressive, and it's not universal. Charities and individuals don't have statutory obligations providing people with the means to survive. That's government's job. Democratically accountable representative government is wonderful. I look forward to it soon.

I completely agree with this. Charities should be about supporting things above and beyond basic needs. I would like to live in a country where the only things you need charity for is donkey sanctuaries and restoring canals.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:14 am

Morning all.

Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
Trump: "Do you think Sleepy Joe could have deal Bibi? Sleepy Joe. You think he would have made this deal? Somehow, I don't think so."

Netanyahu: "Well, Mr. President, one thing I can tell you, is, um, uh, we appreciate the help for peace from anyone in America ... "
6:20 PM · Oct 23, 2020·TweetDeck

That's the sound of someone who is almost certainly going to have to deal with a different POTIS next year...and given US funding to Israel, best not to join in with the jeering...

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:18 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
Trump: "Do you think Sleepy Joe could have deal Bibi? Sleepy Joe. You think he would have made this deal? Somehow, I don't think so."

Netanyahu: "Well, Mr. President, one thing I can tell you, is, um, uh, we appreciate the help for peace from anyone in America ... "
6:20 PM · Oct 23, 2020·TweetDeck
That's the sound of someone who is almost certainly going to have to deal with a different POTIS next year...and given US funding to Israel, best not to join in with the jeering...

Ha! That was just playing on the news right as I was reading this. Yes, a very careful, diplomatic response.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:30 am

Wonderful exchange yesterday on the subject of relative poverty and its basis.

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Christopher Snowdon
@cjsnowdon
Replying to
@xtophercook
I mean he’s right about it being meaningless and based on average incomes. Admittedly he got the mean and median mixed up.
8:53 PM · Oct 23, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Chris Cook
@xtophercook
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14h
Replying to
@cjsnowdon
That’s quite a big thing when you’re arguing about... a poverty measure based on median income.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:34 am

So the Tories want Starmer to apologise for something he didn't say which the person who did say it has already apologised for.
Given Johnson won't apologise for things he himself has said, let alone any other members of his party, I'm feeling there are some double standards here.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 11:38 am

Proves how the biggest "snowflakes" are on the right, again.

Starmer should just reply the way the Tories did a la Cummings - "Angela has apologised and as far as I am concerned that is the end of the matter".

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 12:48 pm

Yes, for all of the "Free speech for everyone!" and "Nobody has the right to be offended!" there's a lot of "Ooh, you can't say that to me!" going on.

And rightly, the consequence of "activist" lawyers" has been pushed back to them.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 4:30 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 8:24 pm

Dan Hicks
@profdanhicks
·
3h
If some Members of Parliament think that to retweet something is “to take it out of context”, just wait till they find out about the British Museum.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 9:12 pm

This woman comes out with some awful old rubbish sometimes.

Katharine Birbalsingh
@Miss_Snuffy
Replying to
@psymonbee
Before 2010, a kid could have a knife in his bag and you were not allowed to search him. The world of education in so many ways, has transformed
12:24 PM · Oct 24, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Bullshit. Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 s.45

550AAPower of members of staff to search pupils for weapons
(1)A member of the staff of a school who has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a pupil at the school may have with him or in his possessions—
(a)an article to which section 139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 applies (knives and blades etc.), or
(b)an offensive weapon (within the meaning of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953),may search that pupil or his possessions for such articles and weapons.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 9:27 pm

evening nesters

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:14 pm

I follow both of these on my EduTwitter account - both are good people.

Covid: Laptop allocation for deprived pupils cut at some schools

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Chris Dyson, head teacher at Parklands School in Leeds, told the BBC his school had been allocated 61 laptops.

When he received an email from the DfE on Friday saying it had secured an extra 100,000 laptops and was updating its allocation process he hoped that number would increase.

He said: "I actually needed 168. So I logged on expecting to hopefully see my 61 had gone up, and it destroyed me, it flattened me, when I saw it's actually been cut to 13.

"Thirteen laptops in a worst-case scenario to share amongst 380 children. I thought it was absolutely scandalous."

And it was the day after schools were legally bound to have their home learning plans in place.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:18 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:evening nesters

Hello there. Even more "seething" than usual in the last few days?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Oct, 2020 10:57 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:30 am

My friend who I've been breaking the law having a few drinks with this evening works security at Leeds gallery.

He's been told that by law he has to ask any group wanting into the gallery if they are part of the same household or support bubble and if not they're not allowed in, except if they are students in a group of six or fewer.

So those most likely to spread the virus are being given easier access in groups than anyone else.

He has of course enquired as to where this ridiculous instruction originated but as of now has not got an answer.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:50 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:59 am

I tried fighting being stuck in the house with insomnia for a week with sobreity and it didn't help at all.

We have booze and drugs for a reason.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:18 am

There's a slug that had been coming in and leaving a trail at night next to my fridge.

I just stood on it by accident. In hiking boots. It's quite dead.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:55 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:06 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:14 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:26 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:26 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:42 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:44 am

Night night.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:49 am

Night night. Definitely.

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 3:26 am

Insomnia - indeed.
UK looking to start vaccinating before the end of the year according to the G. Hope the optimism proves founded.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 9:51 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:I follow both of these on my EduTwitter account - both are good people.

Covid: Laptop allocation for deprived pupils cut at some schools

Another dodgy algorithm?
Looks like it.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 11:00 am

Don't for get to turn off 'Summertime' people. The option is in your User Control Panel (top right).

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:06 pm

Good morefternoon, all.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:13 pm

Prue Leith has apparently left the Tory Party...

Parody Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson_MP
Prue Leith contacted me to say she was fine with austerity, child poverty, food banks, no-deal Brexit and killing thousands of people by mishandling Covid, but she drew the line at lowering food standards.

Well quite.

Hadn't realised her son was a Tory MP though until the other day.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:36 pm

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:My friend who I've been breaking the law having a few drinks with this evening works security at Leeds gallery.

He's been told that by law he has to ask any group wanting into the gallery if they are part of the same household or support bubble and if not they're not allowed in, except if they are students in a group of six or fewer.

So those most likely to spread the virus are being given easier access in groups than anyone else.

He has of course enquired as to where this ridiculous instruction originated but as of now has not got an answer.

(cJA bold)
EXACTLY!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:39 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 12:57 pm

I spend hours writing, earnestly asking our (Tory-led) Council for clarification regarding alarming CV19 increased infections in our area. I'm anxious, tired, sleep often eludes me. The Councillors are people living here and they do care about peoples' lives. Sky's post is important. Workplaces, public transportation and schools are social.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:00 pm

the virus doesn't stop spreading in the environments public health and political leaders keep open

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:20 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Prue Leith has apparently left the Tory Party...

Parody Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson_MP
Prue Leith contacted me to say she was fine with austerity, child poverty, food banks, no-deal Brexit and killing thousands of people by mishandling Covid, but she drew the line at lowering food standards.
Well quite.

Hadn't realised her son was a Tory MP though until the other day.

Possibly an example of how people don't give politics a second thought until a political choice directly affects them. It makes sense, food being her thing, that she'd notice a food related policy decision she disagrees with. I'm not saying it's a good thing she could ignore/not notice all the rest, but it's surely a good thing that there are long time Tory voters out there who are changing their minds.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 1:39 pm

People quite often change their minds over something that might appear relatively "trivial". Straws, camels and all that.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 5:20 pm

citizenJA wrote:I spend hours writing, earnestly asking our (Tory-led) Council for clarification regarding alarming CV19 increased infections in our area. I'm anxious, tired, sleep often eludes me. The Councillors are people living here and they do care about peoples' lives. Sky's post is important. Workplaces, public transportation and schools are social.

I'm not clear here. I'll try better. I can't forget they're Tory party members, some councillors. The Tory party is a bad club, I'll not support their party, I think they ought to find themselves a better party but we share the same hospital, for example. Any communication I have with local Tories is brief & professionally courteous on my part.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 5:40 pm

I don't think any of us doubted all that

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 6:36 pm

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has just made one of the most revealing comments to emerge from Trump’s inner circle about the president’s historic mishandling of the coronavirus crisis. On a Sunday political talk show, Meadows admitted that the federal government was not focusing on trying to control the pandemic.
“We’re not going to control the pandemic. ... We are going to control the fact that we get a vaccine, therapeutics and other mitigation.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 2e58c8f6a8

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 6:36 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:I don't think any of us doubted all that

It's a difficult time.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 8:19 pm

There's some pretty top names in this. Whether it'll make the slightest bit of difference remains to be seen...

Ministers must end their attacks on lawyers

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Lawrence Collins Retired justice of the supreme court,
John Dyson Retired justice of the supreme court and former master of the rolls,
Robert Walker Retired justice of the supreme court,
Richard Buxton Retired lord justice of appeal,
Anthony Hooper Retired lord justice of appeal,
David Keene Retired lord justice of appeal,
Alan Moses Retired lord justice of appeal,
Stephen Sedley Retired lord justice of appeal,
Theodore Huckle Former counsel general for Wales,
Ken Macdonald Former director of public prosecutions, and warden of Wadham College, University of Oxford,
Helen Mountfield Principal of Mansfield College, University of Oxford

and 791 others

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 8:25 pm

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020

Overall, an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19. The largest percentage increases were seen among adults aged 25–44 years and among Hispanic or Latino persons.
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Those may not be CV19 deaths
It's the US
People die because they can't afford healthcare

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 10:48 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Oct, 2020 11:21 pm

Daniel Hannan
@DanielJHannan
Fishing is currently a tiny fraction of our economy. But there is vast growth potential in using fish in cosmetic and health supplements. Bones, scales, guts, heads, enzymes - almost all can be monetised. Hull and Grimsby could be reborn as pharma hubs.

The replies are worth reading...

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