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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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AndrewSparrow ‏@AndrewSparrow 5m5 minutes ago
My snap PMQs verdict - http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blo ... 6bd4f7ece4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … - comfortable Miliband win
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James O'Brien & the political editor at LBC are brilliantly making the point that Ed M, Andy B & Westminster Labour has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Wales NHS.

If only we had a national broadcaster & a media willing to report fact instead of lies.
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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@rearofthestore

I haven't interrogated you lately - how are things going?
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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pk1 wrote:James O'Brien & the political editor at LBC are brilliantly making the point that Ed M, Andy B & Westminster Labour has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Wales NHS.

If only we had a national broadcaster & a media willing to report fact instead of lies.

A political correspondent on BBC Wales News last night gave a very good report about the slurring of the Welsh NHS, ending with expressing what seemed like genuine concern about the future of it as it comes under stress from the media onslaught and the Daily Mail.
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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RobertSnozers wrote:
I've thrown my toys out of the pram on occasion, particularly over Clacton and attitudes to the people in that constituency, so I hereby apologise for that, and next time I'll try to be a bit calmer.

And that, to quote Forrest Gump, is all I have to say about that.
Oh, great! Does that mean it's now open season for Clacton? Right . . . . .
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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From June this year:

''A new report published today shows patient satisfaction with the quality of care they receive in hospital remains high across Wales.

The annual Fundamentals of Care audit – the fourth such exercise – asks patients to rate the care they received on hospital wards in terms of being treated with dignity and respect, the cleanliness of the ward and other measures.

The report is based on a snapshot-in-time audit of more than 3,000 patient records, a patient survey and a staff survey carried out in October and November last year.

The results show:

94% of patients were satisfied with the overall care they received;
97% always or usually felt they were treated with dignity and respect;
98% agreed the clinical area was kept clean, tidy and uncluttered;
96% agreed they were given help to maintain their independence;
93% agreed that when they asked for help they received it promptly.''

http://www.wales.nhs.uk/news/32863" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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Hi PF
Thanks for asking.
We are at my Son and Daughter in L's house in deepest rural Gloucestershire (one bus a week to Cheltenham on a Tuesday) for the next month or two. My wife has just had the metalwork in her knee removed (following the fracture she suffered in Slovenia in March 2013) at Trafford General Hospital (founding hospital of the NHS don't you know!) and is recovering well and already able to walk a good few miles. I have to have a hernia repair op in December as there is a risk of strangulation. Old age is not recommended but retirement is.
My wife's endrometrial and ovarian cancer appears to be in full remission, which is remarkable since in 2011 she was given the worst possible prognosis and we really have the wonderful Christie in Manchester to thank for that. Check-up in December for her everything crossed.
I do appreciate this site and, as for many, is my first port of call.
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PorFavor wrote:
RobertSnozers wrote:
I've thrown my toys out of the pram on occasion, particularly over Clacton and attitudes to the people in that constituency, so I hereby apologise for that, and next time I'll try to be a bit calmer.

And that, to quote Forrest Gump, is all I have to say about that.
Oh, great! Does that mean it's now open season for Clacton? Right . . . . .
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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rearofthestore wrote:Hi PF
Thanks for asking.
We are at my Son and Daughter in L's house in deepest rural Gloucestershire (one bus a week to Cheltenham on a Tuesday) for the next month or two. My wife has just had the metalwork in her knee removed (following the fracture she suffered in Slovenia in March 2013) at Trafford General Hospital (founding hospital of the NHS don't you know!) and is recovering well and already able to walk a good few miles. I have to have a hernia repair op in December as there is a risk of strangulation. Old age is not recommended but retirement is.
My wife's endrometrial and ovarian cancer appears to be in full remission, which is remarkable since in 2011 she was given the worst possible prognosis and we really have the wonderful Christie in Manchester to thank for that. Check-up in December for her everything crossed.
I do appreciate this site and, as for many, is my first port of call.
So pleased things seem to be looking up - fingers crossed they stay that way :)
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
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yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Good result after all then :lol:
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yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Oh FSM! It's very difficult not to laugh at this. I hope no real damage has occurred.
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yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Have we heard from 55Degrees since the initial post containing, as it did, intimations of possible peril?

Edited to add -

Hope your situation is now under control. Still, you know what they say, "When in foam . . . . "
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JackPranker wrote:
yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Oh FSM! It's very difficult not to laugh at this. I hope no real damage has occurred.

Luckily no, the electric plugs are well out of the way.
The washing machine seems to be operating properly now, husband has just tested it.
A rinse with white vinegar seems to have broken up the foam left in the machine.

Can see the funny side now so will laugh with you.
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PorFavor wrote:Oxtra doxtras? (David Cameron, PMQs)

Ed Miliband having to keep pointing out that DC is the one who's meant to be answering, and not asking, the questions.
The response to that always has to be; "Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister seems eager to be the one on this side of the house asking the questions. I'm sorry to tell him that he'll have to wait until next May for that opportunity."
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BBC report, just on, had IDS (yes, he survived the dunking!) declaring how marvellous and on target Universal Credit is. Apparently, the Gov/DWP have published their internal report. Must be about time he got called in front of the W&P Committee again, eh?
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Richard Ruzyllo ‏@spygun 29m29 minutes ago
Someone carted out of the House of Commons, shouting "Answer the f****** question!!" It wasn't Speaker Bercow, was it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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ohsocynical wrote:Richard Ruzyllo ‏@spygun 29m29 minutes ago
Someone carted out of the House of Commons, shouting "Answer the f****** question!!" It wasn't Speaker Bercow, was it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl:
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LadyCentauria wrote:BBC report, just on, had IDS (yes, he survived the dunking!) declaring how marvellous and on target Universal Credit is. Apparently, the Gov/DWP have published their internal report. Must be about time he got called in front of the W&P Committee again, eh?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/univ ... fare-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


100,000 by May 2015
500,000 by May 2016

http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-bl ... -2018/2519" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... ord-tebbit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Speechless !
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Robin Meltzer ‏@robinmeltzer 5h5 hours ago
Our new #Richmond Park campaign hub is now open on Sheen Lane, launched yesterday by @LibDems President @timfarron
Tim Farron and Robin Meltzer

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Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray 3h3 hours ago
@robinmeltzer @LibDems @timfarron. That'll be a waste of money!


Henry Riley
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@dimayray @robinmeltzer @LibDems @timfarron. in what way???


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Tim Farron ‏@timfarron 19m19 minutes ago
@HenryRiley1 @dimayray @robinmeltzer @LibDems. It won't :)

Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray 14m14 minutes ago
@HenryRiley1 @robinmeltzer @LibDems @timfarron. Tweet me in 2015 and ask that. I voted for you lot...Never again.


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Doesn't inspire confidence in Ms Woolf does it ?
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Copied in it's entirety from LDV is this comment by Matthew Huntbach in response to Paul Barker:
Matthew Huntbach 22nd Oct '14 - 10:39am
paul barker

Its way off topic but I often recommend Dan Hodges articles so I feel I ought to defend him. Reading his stuff over a long period I feel that while his head has left Labour his heart hasn’t
Well, I don’t know anything about him apart from this article that “jedibeeftrix” referred us to, and going by this article he’s Tory, Tory, Tory. Tory in the head, Tory in the heart. Someone who has that fundamentally Tory idea that money made form owning things is so much more noble than dirty money made by work, so shouldn’t be taxed unlike the money that the plebs have to work for. Someone who doesn’t care about how inheritance of property with its values pushed sky high by lack of the sort of property tax most other countries have is the main driving force in growing inequality in this country, rapidly becoming the most unequal country in western Europe. Someone who doesn’t care about how this is forcing people out of the chance of having a roof over their head as so long as HE lives his life is luxury in his stonkingly big house and can pass it untaxed to his kids so they can effortlessly stay at the top regardless of whether they gave any real merits apart form choosing a dad who is stonkingly rich owing to owning a stonkingly big house. Tory, Tory, Tory, these are all Tory ways of thinking.

He lives in Blackheath just a few miles away from where I live in Eltham. He thinks a house which is valued at two million pounds is nothing, doesn’t make him stonkingly rich, why anyone could own the same. Tory, Tory, Tory – in heart and mind – Tory. His house is valued at six times the value of the three bedroomed house I live in. But with his Tory mind and Tory heart and Tory way of viewing things he’s hardly even aware of the plebs all around him, no, he thinks his super-rich property is the norm because only stonkingly rich people like him really count. Tory, Tory, Tory, he is a Tory through and through.
:lol:
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“There would be little cost to bring that under control if Neets and low level criminals were required as part of their contribution to the society which finances them, or which they have abused … to uproot this weed.
So he's not even bothering to hide the fact that he equates the unemployed with 'low level criminals' - doesn't mind his slip showing at all - after all it's a Toryan slip. Many of them think that but are too careful to say it ... he just blasts it out.
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http://www.itv.com/news/2014-10-22/the- ... -years-on/

Sad.
I often wonder what they'd have thought about people all over the world being able to see their photos, read about them and mourn their deaths so long after it happened.
Never forgotten takes on a whole new meaning doesn't it.
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Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 1h 1 hour ago
New post.
As UKIP surges Ipsos-MORI finds that support for wanting to stay in the EU is at a 23 year high http://bit.ly/1rqhfEY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
“There would be little cost to bring that under control if Neets and low level criminals were required as part of their contribution to the society which finances them, or which they have abused … to uproot this weed.
So he's not even bothering to hide the fact that he equates the unemployed with 'low level criminals' - doesn't mind his slip showing at all - after all it's a Toryan slip. Many of them think that but are too careful to say it ... he just blasts it out.
Yes - cat out of bag stuff. I notice that these landowners who are so in need of help aren't being encouraged to nip over the hedge to pull up the ragwort, which is causing them such distress, for themselves.
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Otto English ‏@Otto_English Oct 9
In other words he shagged someone else. I actually feel very sorry for these people but it's simultaneously hilarious http://www.christiantoday.com/article/w ... /41475.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
I wondered what he was referring to - followed the link - and well, I have to agree - it is hilarious.

As he goes on to say in his next tweet
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@MrsM40128155 oh no Mrs M. I have no time for hypocrisy. These people have also made huge personal fortunes out of preaching sexual morality
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For more on the 'answer the f***ing question' incident - and a more personal summary of how PMQs verdict than Andrew Sparrow allows himself.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
For more on the 'answer the f***ing question' incident - and a more personal summary of how PMQs verdict than Andrew Sparrow allows himself.
Thanks for the link. I'm not clear how any of the pointlessness of this latest PMQs was in any way Ed Miliband's fault, although the article suggests, or more than suggests, that the guilt be shared between Ed Miliband and the person we laughingly call Prime Minister.
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PorFavor wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
For more on the 'answer the f***ing question' incident - and a more personal summary of how PMQs verdict than Andrew Sparrow allows himself.
Thanks for the link. I'm not clear how any of the pointlessness of this latest PMQs was in any way Ed Miliband's fault, although the article suggests, or more than suggests, that the guilt be shared between Ed Miliband and the person we laughingly call Prime Minister.
Indeed. It seemed a lazy "they're as bad as each other " summary. I'd be intrigued to know what Miliband was supposed to have done differently.
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Facebook pays no UK corporation tax for a second year
Social media company reports a pre-tax loss of £11.6m for 2013, despite its US parent making a ne (Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/o ... ration-tax
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Analysis Radio 4 Next Monday 20.30 J.Portes on "Welfare Reform"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mc1hv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Andy Burnham letter to Cameron after today's PMQs

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1006633 ... failure-to" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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30 shots heard within the Canadian Parliament, gunman shot dead but another thought to be on the roof.

Another shooting at a hotel nearby.

Suggestion is that all of the incidents are related to IS.

Worrying for those with loved ones in the area.

Edit to add - will this mean another Cobra meeting for our Dave ?
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pk1 wrote:30 shots heard within the Canadian Parliament, gunman shot dead but another thought to be on the roof.

Another shooting at a hotel nearby.

Suggestion is that all of the incidents are related to IS.

Worrying for those with loved ones in the area.

Edit to add - will this mean another Cobra meeting for our Dave ?
For sure, I bet he's rubbing his hands in glee. And rolling up his shirt sleeves.
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Paul Mason points out that Universal Credit was supposed to save £38bn by 2022.

I might be wrong but so far all we've heard is about the actual costs of work done. Wasn't Labour's NHS IT scheme talked of in terms of both costs and money it didn't save?
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ohsocynical wrote:
pk1 wrote:30 shots heard within the Canadian Parliament, gunman shot dead but another thought to be on the roof.

Another shooting at a hotel nearby.

Suggestion is that all of the incidents are related to IS.

Worrying for those with loved ones in the area.

Edit to add - will this mean another Cobra meeting for our Dave ?
For sure, I bet he's rubbing his hands in glee. And rolling up his shirt sleeves.
Well, i'm told that you can't "lock and load" without first rolling up those sleeves!
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Bloody hell, the bridge has spewed out a shed-load of trolls onto this single article today:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... s#show-all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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From Andrew's blog:
Nicky Morgan, has been ordered by MPs to write to the chief inspector of schools after she publicly contradicted him over the watchdog’s powers to inspect academy chains. As Sally Weale reports, Morgan came under fire over the government’s academies and free schools programme when she appeared before the House of Commons education select committee. She refused to back down from a direct clash with Sir Michael Wilshaw’s position, leaving baffled committee members to choose who to believe.
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Fiona Woolf faces new questions from MPs over links with Lord Brittan
MPs ‘not totally satisfied’ with answers given by head of inquiry into abuse as details of new contact emerge

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... mentpage=2
How the hell can she not stand down now? Committee not satisfied with her answers - more details emerged since she went before them. Survivors definitely not satisfied - nor anyone else not in thrall to the Establishment. A legal challenge underway. And long delays already experienced - and more to come doubtless - because of her other commitments and all this stuff going on now....

Get someone else in NOW. Someone with no connections to the Establishment. Someone with experience of abuse cases.

If nothing else - being assured by Cameron that she has his full confidence should be enough to immediately disqualify her from the position.
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PorFavor wrote:
yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Have we heard from 55Degrees since the initial post containing, as it did, intimations of peril?
Thanks for asking. I thought for a while, then tested it in my wife's school laptop. It works, so now I can use it to load the cd containing the instructions on how to make my av amp work. I'm getting sick of technology. When I was a kid, we could have hours of fun with little more than a few felling axes and a can of petrol.
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That was the 10,000th post on here 8-)
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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refitman wrote:From Andrew's blog:
Nicky Morgan, has been ordered by MPs to write to the chief inspector of schools after she publicly contradicted him over the watchdog’s powers to inspect academy chains. As Sally Weale reports, Morgan came under fire over the government’s academies and free schools programme when she appeared before the House of Commons education select committee. She refused to back down from a direct clash with Sir Michael Wilshaw’s position, leaving baffled committee members to choose who to believe.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... emy-chains" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeah, I posted on that this morning when I was watching - this is the second time that the Committee simply don't understand why Morgan is not happy about giving Ofsted the ability to do with chains as they do with LAs.

Three reasons

Lord Nash
Theodore Agnew
Paul Msrshall

Incidentally, id anyone notice that the Jim O'Neill who produced that cities report is the same Jim O'Neill who also sits on the DfE board? Small world...especially when you used to work for Goldman Sachs...

I never realised it was him that came up with the BRICS acronym.
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rebeccariots2
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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Tory MP accuses Jon Snow of being a lefty who should think of retiring
Philip Davies asked to leave Channel 4 News offices by Krishnan Guru-Murthy after row with veteran presenter

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/o ... uru-murthy
Jeez, there must be something in the waterworks at CCHQ - the nastiness is just bursting out of them at every opportunity. It can't be contained anymore .... If this is the effect of the dreaded UKIP Surge (ghastly new affliction) then it may have an upside - they are showing themselves up more and more, and it's really not attractive.

But the sneaky guillotine knitter in me wishes this report had more detail - what did Snow say, if anything, to set Davies off? Who shouted first? Who got the last word in? .....
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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PorFavor wrote:
yahyah wrote:My day has turned out worse than 55Degree's.

Dyed some favourite trousers to restore the colour.
Dye left in the drum seal etc even after following Dylon's instructions.
So I followed their advice to put a cup of bleach in with detergent and do another empty wash.

Result, masses of foam in the washing machine, it wouldn't drain or spin, foam deluging out of the soap drawer and outflow drain pipe, wet mess everywhere.
Husband's had to pull all the appliances out and deal with it.
Have been banned from kitchen as he considers me a potential hazard, so am back seat organising from the other room.
Have we heard from 55Degrees since the initial post containing, as it did, intimations of peril?
Thanks for asking. I thought for a while, then tested it in my wife's school laptop. It works, so now I can use it to load the cd containing the instructions on how to make my av amp work. I'm getting sick of technology. When I was a kid, we could have hours of fun with little more than a few felling axes and a can of petrol.
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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Just got in, apologies if this has been linked already. Begs the question how many times has the WG got respond?

http://wales.gov.uk/newsroom/healthands ... l/?lang=en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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@yahyah

How did the trousers come out? Are they a disaster too - or is there a small mercy in this awful story?
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Fiona Woolf faces new questions from MPs over links with Lord Brittan
MPs ‘not totally satisfied’ with answers given by head of inquiry into abuse as details of new contact emerge

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... mentpage=2
How the hell can she not stand down now? Committee not satisfied with her answers - more details emerged since she went before them. Survivors definitely not satisfied - nor anyone else not in thrall to the Establishment. A legal challenge underway. And long delays already experienced - and more to come doubtless - because of her other commitments and all this stuff going on now....

Get someone else in NOW. Someone with no connections to the Establishment. Someone with experience of abuse cases.

If nothing else - being assured by Cameron that she has his full confidence should be enough to immediately disqualify her from the position.
I said before, funny how Cameron wanted a no nonsense American to sort out the blacks in London, but doesn't want one to look into allegations against the establishment.

The Welsh Government has to threaten its own inquiry into North Wales.
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rebeccariots2
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Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Fiona Woolf faces new questions from MPs over links with Lord Brittan
MPs ‘not totally satisfied’ with answers given by head of inquiry into abuse as details of new contact emerge

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... mentpage=2
How the hell can she not stand down now? Committee not satisfied with her answers - more details emerged since she went before them. Survivors definitely not satisfied - nor anyone else not in thrall to the Establishment. A legal challenge underway. And long delays already experienced - and more to come doubtless - because of her other commitments and all this stuff going on now....

Get someone else in NOW. Someone with no connections to the Establishment. Someone with experience of abuse cases.

If nothing else - being assured by Cameron that she has his full confidence should be enough to immediately disqualify her from the position.
I said before, funny how Cameron wanted a no nonsense American to sort out the blacks in London, but doesn't want one to look into allegations against the establishment.

The Welsh Government has to threaten its own inquiry into North Wales.
The Establishment would be able to run rings around a no nonsense American IMO. It would be a Sir Humphrey field day. They need someone who knows about the Establishment and how it operates .... but very definitely isn't part of it.
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