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For some reason it came to mind that it was strange that Carrie Symonds didn't seem to have a job, or have had one since she took up with Johnson, so I looked her up, thinking that she might be independently wealthy. In fact she's media royalty. Wikipedia includes this gem, which of course may just be scurrilous gossip. On the other hand, everyone but me may already know it.

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Symonds became the Conservative Party's head of communications in 2018, but left the position later that year, taking up a job in public relations for the Oceana project. It was reported that she was asked to leave her post as director of communications after sources claimed party chiefs had said her performance was poor, and questions were raised over significant unjustified expenses claims. These accusations were, however, rejected by other sources as being a smear campaign based around rumours allegedly spread by Johnson's political strategist, Lynton Crosby.


This is not the first spat she's had with Johnson's advisers, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Symonds

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I was sufficiently curious about Symonds some months ago and spent a few hours researching finding out the same.


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Okay, before I forget and it's already getting confused with other news coming at me but I'll try to explain.
Looking over headlines elsewhere, I'm reminded our economic system is inadequate. We've collective resources enough capable of keeping civilisation and each other from collapsing but political leadership must be willing to ensure it happens. People shouldn't have to worry about keeping housed and fed because they're unable to work right now. Individual people are facing permanent loss for reasons outside their individual control because government is weak. It shouldn't be this way.


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Economics=cultural construct; Being alive doesn't.

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Gotta love the arrogance in this in the Express...

BBC ordered to move to subscriber model and stop its 'public service broadcasting tax'

Ordered? Oh really, who by exactly?

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THE BBC has been ordered to move to content to a subscriber model by critic Annabel Denham who hit out at the broadcaster for taxing the public.

Director of Communications at the Institute of Economic Affairs, Annabel Denham, claimed the BBC is charging a "public service broadcasting tax" which Britons are forced to pay. She said that the broadcaster needs to re-focus its content on what is popular and what people are willing to pay for. Speaking to talkRADIO, Ms Denham said: "There are many, many issues at the BBC and in my view, it needs to be salami sliced and moved to a subscriber model just like the video streaming services are.


Shame the BBC is too polite to tell her exactly what she can do...

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The BMJ is now trending on that Twitter because of this...

Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44 ... aign=usage

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Politicians and governments are suppressing science. They do so in the public interest, they say, to accelerate availability of diagnostics and treatments. They do so to support innovation, to bring products to market at unprecedented speed. Both of these reasons are partly plausible; the greatest deceptions are founded in a grain of truth. But the underlying behaviour is troubling.

Science is being suppressed for political and financial gain. Covid-19 has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale, and it is harmful to public health.1 Politicians and industry are responsible for this opportunistic embezzlement. So too are scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical-political complex can be manipulated in an emergency—a time when it is even more important to safeguard science.


Quite. The amount of money being dished out to chums is quite staggering.

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Shame the BBC is too polite to tell her exactly what she can do...


Some of us can think of other words that would fit there.


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... bankruptcy
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Local authorities often made up of an assortment of local political party representatives and all the confrontational energy wasted on that intentional piece of work is so people believe it's their personal fault they've contracted CV19 and can't fund their household without a trust fund. Information, healthcare and other resources don't get to everyone needing it not because local people are evil but because Westminster abandoned us all. Johnson's government is a failure and we can do what about it, exactly? Nothing material. People are ill, dying and losing their futures now. It won't wait.


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I'm aware this isn't terribly helpful, and I'm not encouraging anybody, but it's interesting, and historically interesting, that this kind of over-reach by the federal government, and especially by the executive branch of the federal government acting like royalty, is exactly - exactly - what the second amendment was all about.

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Helping ourselves is helping others
most of us usually do it daily without acknowledging skilful work we've learned to do
cooperating with each other
compromising, negotiating with others responsibly
hard work most of us do all the time
Our collective successes done daily aren't usually in headlines
not a single event or statue projected onto an external thing
people we love will live well after we're gone if we don't quarrel with each other now, yesterday, tomorrow
we don't have time or resources enough for partisanship within local authorities
blaming an other we see locally
we share the air we breathe
we are all already doing our best


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I'm aware this isn't terribly helpful, and I'm not encouraging anybody, but it's interesting, and historically interesting, that this kind of over-reach by the federal government, and especially by the executive branch of the federal government acting like royalty, is exactly - exactly - what the second amendment was all about.
I completely disagree
You're helpful encouraging and interesting


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a lot of people with everything in common can be motivated into irrational action
civil wars are deadly
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civil wars and marches of folly occur all the damned time
this isn't a good time for civil war
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a lot of people with everything in common can be motivated into irrational action
civil wars are deadly
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when the rain stops here, the fireworks start up
I know I'm capable of scaring the hell out of people by hissing like a cat
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Not to worry, Giuliani is now apparently in charge of Trump's legal efforts - so success is assured.


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Everyone seen this corker?

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Some of the follow-ups are even funnier - they just didn't get it!


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Good morfternoon.

Sky TV news is reporting on a Donald Trump Tweet which says that (I paraphrase) Joe Biden won the election because the US election was fixed. But he does admit that Joe Biden won (and by extension that he, Donald Trump, lost). The question being - was that an admission that he has finally conceded?


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'Chumocracy': how Covid revealed the new shape of the Tory establishment (Guardian)


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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ays-report

Religion: time for a (co-creative) rethink

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Independent: Trump admits for the first time that Biden won the election

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Anyone got any good potato stories? (off topic again, sorry)

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Am not the sweetest cookie in the jar myself, but Trump's messaging is giving me flashbacks to some characters on the 2014 pre-Independence vote Guardian comments fora. DIDN'T HANG ABOUT THERE LONG I CAN TELL YOU!

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I mean if he *is* ever going to concede, that would be the sort of way he would do it.


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The concession's off. It was a fundraising ploy.


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Police stop lockdown-busting service at London church

About 30 worshippers had gathered at the Angel church in north London on Sunday for a service including a baptism after pastor Regan King said Christians served “a greater law”. (Guardian)


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The concession's off. It was a fundraising ploy.


Well there's a shock :roll: :D


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Has anyone been to the Canadian Potato Museum (Prince Edward Island), for example?

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Has anyone been to the Canadian Potato Museum (Prince Edward Island), for example?


Sounds genuinely fascinating (no, really)


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Has anyone been to the Canadian Potato Museum (Prince Edward Island), for example?


I expect someone has but, no, I haven't. I'll add it to my list.


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Anyone got any good potato stories? (off topic again, sorry)

Well, I can't say I do because I don't
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Speaking of which watched "A beautiful Day in the Neighbourhood" yesterday.

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How Canadian can you get?
As Canadian as possible under the circumstances.

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I particularly like the fact that the Canadian Potato Museum describes itself as one of the Top 11 Food Musuems in the world.
For some reason it brings to mind Spinal Tap.

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