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Saturday 28th & Sunday 29th November 2020
Morning all.
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Good morning, all.
Number 10 issuing actually non-existent "guidance" about drinking in pubs is it?
Number 10 issuing actually non-existent "guidance" about drinking in pubs is it?
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Morning all. I have to say this is pretty hilarious...
Joe Biden gains votes in Wisconsin county after Trump-ordered recount
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-recount" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Joe Biden gains votes in Wisconsin county after Trump-ordered recount
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-recount" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A recount in Wisconsin’s largest county demanded by President Donald Trump’s election campaign ended on Friday with the president-elect, Joe Biden, gaining votes.
After the recount in Milwaukee county, Biden made a net gain of 132 votes, out of nearly 460,000 cast. Overall, the Democrat gained 257 votes to Trump’s 125.
Trump’s campaign had demanded recounts in two of Wisconsin’s most populous and Democratic-leaning counties, after he lost Wisconsin to Biden by more than 20,000 votes. The two recounts will cost the Trump campaign $3m. Dane county is expected to finish its recount on Sunday.
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This worth a read...
A peculiar definition of sovereignty is the root cause of a failed Brexit
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2020/11/ ... ed-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But the "less red tape!" line is the one which always gets made until something bad happens and then it will be "OK, so we need some red tape after all"...
A peculiar definition of sovereignty is the root cause of a failed Brexit
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2020/11/ ... ed-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Quite.What is sovereignty?
The Brexiteers’ definition of sovereignty has always been the core of the problem. It is the greatest failure of the Remain campaign that they scarcely engaged, let alone won, this battle. It left them unable to expose the reality that Brexit meant throwing away control, not taking it back.
Trading across borders means regulating across borders, and the more you want to trade, the more regulation you need. This goes for services and data as much as for goods. ‘Sovereignty’ in this context means having control not only of regulation in your domestic market but in the markets you sell to and buy from. In the 1960s, Britain vividly experienced the drawbacks of having no control over the European market and too small a domestic market for its manufacturers. EFTA did not provide what was needed, so only membership of the EEC would enable Britain to defend its national economic interests effectively. It was less a case of giving sovereignty away than, by sharing it, extending our sovereignty to mainland Europe.
But the "less red tape!" line is the one which always gets made until something bad happens and then it will be "OK, so we need some red tape after all"...
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Yes - marvellousRogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all. I have to say this is pretty hilarious...
Joe Biden gains votes in Wisconsin county after Trump-ordered recount
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ed-recount" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A recount in Wisconsin’s largest county demanded by President Donald Trump’s election campaign ended on Friday with the president-elect, Joe Biden, gaining votes.
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Well hello there, your recent absence has been noted.
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Sometimes I Like to Curl Up in a Ball
by Charles Fuge and Vicki Churchill
by Charles Fuge and Vicki Churchill
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anyone counting how many tsars we got now?Christmas travel tsar appointed to oversee Covid-hit UK networks
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eter-hendy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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More than Imperial Russia ever had that's for certain.citizenJA wrote:anyone counting how many tsars we got now?Christmas travel tsar appointed to oversee Covid-hit UK networks
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eter-hendy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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And Orient win!!
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More than we can shake a stick at.
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Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ne-rollout
Hence the expression: "Things won't get better until they get much worse."Nadhim Zahawi appointed minister in charge of Covid-19 vaccine rollout
UK business minister to take on additional role as NHS prepares for mass deployment (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ne-rollout
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Well, that fills me with reassurance. NOT.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bo ... 63157.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But that doesn’t change the fact that there has long been a transatlantic exchange of ideas between the two nations’ centre-right parties and there are some disturbing parallels in the rise of Trump and his debasement of Grand Old Party and the rise of Johnson and the debasement of the Tories.
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A fair few of last year's intake of Tory MPs are genuine Trumpians.
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I grew up listening to this phrasetinyclanger2 wrote:More than we can shake a stick at.
it's wonderful
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sameAnatolyKasparov wrote:Well, that fills me with reassurance. NOT.
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they can go with himAnatolyKasparov wrote:A fair few of last year's intake of Tory MPs are genuine Trumpians.
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Goodnight, everyone.
I'll be here later on today.
love,
cJA
I'll be here later on today.
love,
cJA
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Good morning to all, anything to report?
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I know this doesn't need saying really but John redwood is remarkably dim.
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Why not open and staff all the Nightingale hospital capacity they need for CV 19 cases and get the rest of the NHS back to full capacity for everything else? No need to scare us with the idea the NHS will not cope.
7:38 AM · Nov 29, 2020·Twitter Web App
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They haven't cared when Gove has spent a decade telling ridiculous lies about austerity, education and brexit (amongst many other things) - it's a bit self-indulgent for tory MPs to start crying foul now.RogerOThornhill wrote:I know this doesn't need saying really but John redwood is remarkably dim.
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Why not open and staff all the Nightingale hospital capacity they need for CV 19 cases and get the rest of the NHS back to full capacity for everything else? No need to scare us with the idea the NHS will not cope.
7:38 AM · Nov 29, 2020·Twitter Web App
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According to the indie, Trump's latest plan is to launch his 2024 bid during Biden's inaugaration.
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Am liking Adam's new red panda look
For some reason it brings to mind a certain raccoon:
[youtube]d7TVXZx3JNo[/youtube]
For some reason it brings to mind a certain raccoon:
[youtube]d7TVXZx3JNo[/youtube]
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Hopefully even republicans will be tired of it all by then.adam wrote:According to the indie, Trump's latest plan is to launch his 2024 bid during Biden's inaugaration.
Clearly we (society) need to deal with the global Crucible-type madness (fake news believers) but I don't think pandering (no pun intended) to it is the way.
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OK THIS bothers me:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... igin-story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nearly a year after doctors identified the first cases of a worrying new disease in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the country appears to be stepping up a campaign to question the origins of the global Covid-19 pandemic.
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Just seems so wrong.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... e-breaches" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... e-breaches" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK universities fine students £170,000 for Covid rule breaches
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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I'd an intricate dream with Ed Milliband in it this morning.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Good morning to all, anything to report?
Sombre and unhappy
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the story? the way it's written or what?tinyclanger2 wrote:OK THIS bothers me:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... igin-story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nearly a year after doctors identified the first cases of a worrying new disease in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the country appears to be stepping up a campaign to question the origins of the global Covid-19 pandemic.
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Lord Ashcroft is Rishi Sunak's biographer? Did I read that right?
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You did - published earlier this month.citizenJA wrote:Lord Ashcroft is Rishi Sunak's biographer? Did I read that right?
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No doubt its a warts and all no holds barred dissection
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HindleA wrote:bastards
Mr. citizen wrote:contemptible bastards
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"too perfect to be plausible"
- Andrew Rawnsley"If this biography is to be believed, the chancellor is a clever charmer without flaws or enemies"
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of course he's perfect
it wouldn't have been published otherwise
it wouldn't have been published otherwise
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Would it be a step too far to say that I'm getting a bit irritated by Trump?
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" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;LabourList
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Keir Starmer has suggested that the party should "look again" at the rule that would usually ban anyone who stood against official Labour candidates in the last general election from rejoining for five years:
So...Tinge are back?
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I'm relieved we're in agreementtinyclanger2 wrote:Would it be a step too far to say that I'm getting a bit irritated by Trump?
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I knew there was something I'd not signed into todayrefitman wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;LabourList
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Keir Starmer has suggested that the party should "look again" at the rule that would usually ban anyone who stood against official Labour candidates in the last general election from rejoining for five years:
So...Tinge are back?
here I go
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Does Labour need someone who'd broken that rule in order to improve chances of a Labour government? Genuine question.
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BREAK: The Wisconsin recount, requested by and paid for by the Trump campaign, is complete. The result?
Biden gained 87 votes. As expected, he’s carried the state.
4:56 PM · Nov 29, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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Meanwhile back in the real world:
Tip of the iceberghttp://stevyncolgan.blogspot.com/2008/1 ... ngers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But did you know that aliens have been swearing at us through our television sets for 40 years? Oh yes. I'm talking Clangers here.
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3 million quid to give 78 votes to the other guy.
Bargain.
Bargain.
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not quid but you know what i mean
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Why. Just why.refitman wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;LabourList
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Keir Starmer has suggested that the party should "look again" at the rule that would usually ban anyone who stood against official Labour candidates in the last general election from rejoining for five years:
So...Tinge are back?
It would be nice to see Labour move on, not keep wallowing in the disagreements of the past.
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If my calculator's working that means Trump has just spent $34,482 on each new vote that's gone to Biden in Wisconsin.
Not his money of course, it's all fundraised from slack jawed yokels, but at least now they won't be spending it on tacky bandanas and methamphetamine.
Not his money of course, it's all fundraised from slack jawed yokels, but at least now they won't be spending it on tacky bandanas and methamphetamine.
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Thanks TinyClanger.
At 0.56 you can clearly hear Major Clanger say 'Sod it'.
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Foul mouthed, filthy moon vermin. That Postgate has a lot to answer for.
At 0.56 you can clearly hear Major Clanger say 'Sod it'.
[youtube]wfsMZKwqw3w[/youtube]
Foul mouthed, filthy moon vermin. That Postgate has a lot to answer for.