Saturday & Sunday 12-13 December 2020
Posted: Sat 12 Dec, 2020 8:11 am
Good morning, everyone.
crazyMore than 120 Congress members have asked the supreme court to bar four states from casting electoral votes for Biden
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Nope, all looks good.citizenJA wrote:Did I mess up the date?
What will we do when Trump has gone? He's so reliable at making the UK look almost sane by comparison.US Supreme Court rejects Texas suit to overturn election. Texas GOP publishes a response suggesting likeminded states get together and secede from the union.
Though I think it has been pointed out, we might not *have* any suitable gunboats anyway.gilsey wrote:
I say almost, starting another cod war is pretty insane, the previous ones ended so well for us.
Mary ChristMax
@SpillerOfTea
“Keep your hands off our fish.”
“But we’ve fished these waters for years.”
“Back off or we will torpedo the absolute bastard out of you.”
[later]
“Hey, we seem to have quite a lot of fish. You wanna buy some?”
“Lol, non.”
Well hopefully last night was a bit of a pushback against this.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning.
This is an interesting thread, on the normalisation of lying in politics.
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I was thinking about this earlier this morning (making the third cup of coffee). There's a lot of focus at the moment on the honesty of scientists (see story about death threats to swedish scientist cleared of scientific fraud in the THES last week) - but what about politics. There's too much "that's how it is" attitude to it. Unless politics stops being "how it is" democracy not only doesn't stand a chance, it fundamentally doesn't exist.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning.
This is an interesting thread, on the normalisation of lying in politics.
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I remember the sugar shortage, though how much of it was real and how much was stockpiling we don't know. Some people my age and older kept extra sugar in the cupboard for years afterwards, possibly still do. Rather like toilet rolls currently.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:And this is excellent on food shortages before we joined the EEC
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same herePaulfromYorkshire wrote:Well said.
Which was why I was happy to support Corbyn while not being a Corbynista in any sense.
He was elected leader and there was always the opportunity to elect a better one.
US Supreme Court judgement!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@ak sorry what did I miss last night?
AnatolyKasparov wrote:US Supreme Court judgement!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@ak sorry what did I miss last night?
Only not being unanimous on throwing out the Texas "case" to invalidate the election, on a technicality (it was 7-2)
The most diehard of diehard Trumpistas have now moved on to demanding military coups and/or civil war
Summary: H.R.5237 — 111th Congress (2009-2010)
There is one summary for H.R.5237. Bill summaries are authored by CRS.
Terrorist Expatriation Act - Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to include among those voluntary acts for which a U.S. national (by birth or naturalization) will be subject to loss of U.S. nationality: (1) providing material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization as designated by the Secretary of State; (2) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States; or (3) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against any country or armed force that is directly engaged along with, or that is providing direct operational support to, the United States in hostilities engaged in by the United States.
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Rachel Shabi certainly criticised Corbyn on occasion, but to say she didn't support Labour - at last year's GE especially - is a tad harsh I think.gilsey wrote:I don't recall Shabi being supportive of the side that wasn't lying in the GE.
UK's catastrophic rupture with the EU is unconscionable. Johnson god damn ran his dirty GE last year assuring all he'd all "oven ready Brexit deal" ready to go. I'm so angry. A lot of people don't have resources enough to do this thing; we don't.Severe delays as businesses try to get goods into Britain before a potential no-deal Brexit on 1 January
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I should've made clearer - I posted this from US legislation pages because some Republican Congress members are violating this law with their calling for an armed break with parts of the US. These members are absolutely wrong; it's a federal crime threatening dissolution of the US.citizenJA wrote:Summary: H.R.5237 — 111th Congress (2009-2010)
There is one summary for H.R.5237. Bill summaries are authored by CRS.
Terrorist Expatriation Act - Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to include among those voluntary acts for which a U.S. national (by birth or naturalization) will be subject to loss of U.S. nationality: (1) providing material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization as designated by the Secretary of State; (2) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States; or (3) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against any country or armed force that is directly engaged along with, or that is providing direct operational support to, the United States in hostilities engaged in by the United States.
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Cornwall councillor Tim Dwelly said Boris Johnson promised Cornwall the same investment that it got from the EU, according to the the Local Democracy Reporting Service (LDRS).
"He literally put that to the people of Cornwall in advance of the last general election and now he seems to have completely broken his promise," he said.
"Here in Cornwall the people who voted for Brexit and voted for the Conservatives did so because they believed or were told it was about taking back control and a commitment by our government to continue to support Cornwall.
"They will be feeling used."
I do understand, and agree, that this is a bad thing, and get why it is a bad thing. On the other hand, 'I was happy to get it all out for everyone to see but if it's just for him then that's not on'.A 28-year-old man reported that he had been approached by a man claiming to be in the entertainment industry. The suspect asked the man to take part in a game show for the chance to win £5,000, the Metropolitan police said. The man was asked to go to a hotel in Newham, east London, to take part in several filmed nude “challenges” as part of the show. The suspect then kept the footage, believed to be for his own gratification, police said.
It's kind of got that feel of young girls being lured into doing topless shots. Anyone who has been lied to in order to get them to pose naked is a victim, I think, even if they would willingly get naked in some circumstances. The cynic in me does wonder, though, if the relative novelty of male victims has led to extra effort in solving the case.adam wrote:Police investigate suspected voyeur over fake nude gameshowI do understand, and agree, that this is a bad thing, and get why it is a bad thing. On the other hand, 'I was happy to get it all out for everyone to see but if it's just for him then that's not on'.A 28-year-old man reported that he had been approached by a man claiming to be in the entertainment industry. The suspect asked the man to take part in a game show for the chance to win £5,000, the Metropolitan police said. The man was asked to go to a hotel in Newham, east London, to take part in several filmed nude “challenges” as part of the show. The suspect then kept the footage, believed to be for his own gratification, police said.
Is it cynicism, relief or standards that makes me relieved it's not a story about a man preying on women or an adult on children?
Let's be clear here, someone asked idiots to perform like monkeys for money despite apparently being given no guarantee of said cash.Willow904 wrote:It's kind of got that feel of young girls being lured into doing topless shots. Anyone who has been lied to in order to get them to pose naked is a victim, I think, even if they would willingly get naked in some circumstances. The cynic in me does wonder, though, if the relative novelty of male victims has led to extra effort in solving the case.
'He' is Dan Hodges. I won't link the Heil.Dan Smith
@Dan1763
Replying to
@APHClarkson
But he is right the British people voted for the EU to abolish itself in 2016 and for the end of negotiations and never hear the word Brexit ever again in 2019.
The fact that both are impossible says something about British politics and the expectations of the British public.
(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
That's what people voted for. We may not like it, but the British public want resolution to this now.
Letter to Gove from Baroness Verma.Julie McHamish
@julesmchamish
Replying to
@uk_domain_names
First 3 pages of HOL's EU Goods Sub-Committee letter showing extent of problems regarding UK’s Brexit preparations. Even with a deal, the IT systems & customs checks are still required. 18 days tick tock.
Luke Wright
@lukewrightpoet
Johnson and von der Leyen “will be talking over lunch” - stop feeding these people till they sort it out.