Saturday 25th & Sunday 26th October 2014

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 2:58 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disgraceful.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 3:26 pm

Afternoon, perusing the local newsagent I happened to espy the headline of the "Sunday Sport"

"Man has sex with a Tesco value lasagne"

It was the "value" that got me.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 3:30 pm

HindleA wrote:Afternoon, perusing the local newsagent I happened to espy the headline of the "Sunday Sport"

"Man has sex with a Tesco value lasagne"

It was the "value" that got me.

Cheap date?

I'm here all week.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 3:31 pm

HindleA wrote:Afternoon, perusing the local newsagent I happened to espy the headline of the "Sunday Sport"

"Man has sex with a Tesco value lasagne"

It was the "value" that got me.

Well it clearly was, wasn't it?

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 3:32 pm

HindleA wrote:Afternoon, perusing the local newsagent I happened to espy the headline of the "Sunday Sport"

"Man has sex with a Tesco value lasagne"

It was the "value" that got me.

Cheap git!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 3:51 pm

I forgot to greet you all earlier, it has just occurred to me. Sorry - terrible manners!

Good afternoon.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:04 pm

Had a delicious Sunday roast dinner, now sat on the sofa in front of the fire watching Quatermass [[Sp?] and the Pit. Or at least that's what Mr Ohso said it was called.

Hate the darker days, but sometimes there are compensations.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:11 pm

Going to see a Mr.Skinner in a Chesterfield book shop in a couple of weeks,due to popular demand he is appearing again in a book signing session.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:17 pm

pk1 wrote:Hey guys & gals, we're not alone !

Page 5 of today's UKPR has quotes from people declaring that they joined Labour because of Ed M & if he was to be forced out, they would resign their membership !!

The post on page 4 that prompted the comments said:

Come on. You’ve gotta be joking.
Oh and who exactly is going to replace Ed and lead Labour to victory next May?
If Ed, who I voted for, is replaced then I’ll cancel my membership.
I can’t be the only Labour Party Member who feels this way.
BTW, I joined in May 2010 to register my opposition to the Coalition.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archi ... ent-944644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mr Wells has banished me to the naughty step (again !) for arguing with a right-whinger (wot d'ya mean I can't spell ?!) yesterday so I've had to 're-invent' myself over there today

I would wait to see who replaced him, and would urge anybody who thinks like the above to do the same.

If it was one of the Blairite/minimalist tendency, though, then game over. Have to say the Greens would look rather attractive to me then

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:19 pm

SUSAN SIMPSON ‏@smartysue 29m29 minutes ago
Cannot believe @CarolineLucas was on TV joining in the Ed witch hunt this morning .. Any admiration I ever had has gone !

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:30 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Had a delicious Sunday roast dinner, now sat on the sofa in front of the fire watching Quatermass [[Sp?] and the Pit. Or at least that's what Mr Ohso said it was called.

Hate the darker days, but sometimes there are compensations.

Quatermass [double Sp?] and the Pit ? - is it a history of the conservative party ?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:32 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Had a delicious Sunday roast dinner, now sat on the sofa in front of the fire watching Quatermass [[Sp?] and the Pit. Or at least that's what Mr Ohso said it was called.

Hate the darker days, but sometimes there are compensations.

Yes, there are - I agree with that. For one thing it allows me to indulge and imagine indulging in all kinds of 'heartier' meals. I've been sitting here pondering what I can conjure up for tonight that justifies me making onion gravy .... just got that craving.

It's my birthday today but I'm not letting Mr Riots near the kitchen. His latest culinary episode - 2 nights ago - left the kitchen and me feeling rather battered. He was late to start ... a typical and usually ominous sign. Then - already quite hungry - I heard a series of expletives which got louder and louder. I put my head into the kitchen - 'the f****ing bottled gas has run out' was snarled at me. I withdrew. (The bottled gas lasts for years - so, yes, a pretty bad catch on the rare night he cooks.) A short while later more expletives and serious bashing sounds. I ventured into the kitchen doorway. He was kicking at the vent system on the Rayburn, slamming down the hotplate lids and hissed at me 'f****ing Rayburn, why does it always take so long to rev up'. I suggested it might be quicker to use our camping hotplate (proved invaluable on anti cull duties ...). Incoherent hiss - something along the lines of - yes, I'm not daft, I can work that out for myself thank you, I'm doing it my way and won't be opting for that now unless it's an absolute last resort ...

Shortly afterwards I heard the flick, flick of the camping hotplate being lit.

I would have eaten virtually anything - and said not a word about it - by the time it was delivered. And I did.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:34 pm

ohsocynical wrote:SUSAN SIMPSON ‏@smartysue 29m29 minutes ago
Cannot believe @CarolineLucas was on TV joining in the Ed witch hunt this morning .. Any admiration I ever had has gone !

Checked SUSAN SIMPSON and found this on her page

Gracie Samuels ‏@GracieSamuels · 38m38 minutes ago
#bedroomtax came in force 1/4/13. Miliband announced Lab wld repeal it on 25/4/13 where did Lamont's12mths come from? http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/103 ... ter_visit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:37 pm

Happy Birthday RebeccaRiots2. Many Happy Returns.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:41 pm

People stood and clapped as Badger Army Protest hit Oxford High Street. Strong feeling against culling @David_Cameron

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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:42 pm

HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday RebeccaRiots2. Many Happy Returns.

Happy birthday from me as well

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:44 pm

Happy Birthday from me too!

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:44 pm

Ekklesia report on DWP fit for work service: who benefits

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/files/fit_for ... efits_.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edited to add information.

Of interest to those in work but requiring time off for medical treatment/illness.
Comes into effect Novenber 2014

(Unsure exactly how this works and who it will affect.)

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:50 pm

How on earth can IDS substantiate £7bn UC savings?
http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/8835" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:50 pm

Thank you all muchly for the happy returns.

The irony is - would you believe it - I'm sitting here putting off doing the preparation for sorting out my f****ing tax return.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:50 pm

Happy Birthday Rebecca

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:52 pm

@rebeccariots2

Happy birthday!

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:55 pm

Households are being left in the cold by prepayment meters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/money/spen ... 17524.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 4:58 pm

Happy Birthday RR2! hope you've had a lovely day, and your year will bring you all you wish for.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:04 pm

seeingclearly wrote:How on earth can IDS substantiate £7bn UC savings?
http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/8835" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish I understood those figures a bit better. I certainly get the general gist though ... the unanswered questions.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:08 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Had a delicious Sunday roast dinner, now sat on the sofa in front of the fire watching Quatermass [[Sp?] and the Pit. Or at least that's what Mr Ohso said it was called.

Hate the darker days, but sometimes there are compensations.
Quatermass [double Sp?] and the Pit ? - is it a history of the conservative party ?

No and sadly for Quatermass the government cut the funding for the British rocket project.

To date the UK remains the only country in the world to have developed the capability to launch satellites and then voluntarily discarded it.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:13 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/o ... s-c4-drama" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope Mark Gatiss plays him a character from League of Gentlemen, and pity the poor bastard who take on the role of Nick Clegg in any
re-enactment of the days post 2010 GE, on a hiding to nothing.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:14 pm

seeingclearly wrote:Households are being left in the cold by prepayment meters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/money/spen ... 17524.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes, it is absolutely shocking.

Even more amazingly the UK Smart Metering project will, at DECC's insistence (DECC being run by big Energy), allow the remote disconnect of every home in the UK.

This decision has added a ton of cost ( paid for by consumers) and a shed load of security risk to the project, and the UK infrastructure. For what exactly?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:24 pm

Penblwydd Hapus/Happy Birthday to RebeccaRiots.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:25 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
seeingclearly wrote:Households are being left in the cold by prepayment meters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/money/spen ... 17524.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yes, it is absolutely shocking.

Even more amazingly the UK Smart Metering project will, at DECC's insistence (DECC being run by big Energy), allow the remote disconnect of every home in the UK.

This decision has added a ton of cost ( paid for by consumers) and a shed load of security risk to the project, and the UK infrastructure. For what exactly?

I agree. The smart meter stuff looks very very questionable - and will probably have more downsides than upsides for most people.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:26 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Thank you all muchly for the happy returns.

The irony is - would you believe it - I'm sitting here putting off doing the preparation for sorting out my f****ing tax return.

Oh well, I've just finished preparing dinner...son#s on his way back from the NFL at Wembley...we think it was his team that won in the dying seconds so he should be happy.

Happy Birthday!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:27 pm

seeingclearly wrote:How on earth can IDS substantiate £7bn UC savings?
http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/8835" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have seen various statements; 9/7billion from more people going to work ;38 billion/35 billion overall over ten years.It must one of IDS's arbitrary figures.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:44 pm

Just followed Microscopic Images and scrolling down the page found this
Marijuana
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Never used it, but somehow its just how I would expect it to look ...

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:48 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Thank you all muchly for the happy returns.

The irony is - would you believe it - I'm sitting here putting off doing the preparation for sorting out my f****ing tax return.
Oh well, I've just finished preparing dinner...son#s on his way back from the NFL at Wembley...we think it was his team that won in the dying seconds so he should be happy.

Happy Birthday!

Well, whichever team he supports it was an amazing game.

Equal biggest comeback in NFL history.

And I have never seen a team miss a field goal but get to take it again (5 yards further back) because they incurred a delay of game penalty.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:56 pm

Hi all, still reading and lurking. My new job is challenging beyond belief - I have one more week with the incumbent manager who's going on a round the world trek - and then I'm on my own...

The number of subjects that I have to make sure I know: Active Directory, pivot tables, various import/export routines, cloud based email spam software and a Progress based ERP system (amongst the highlights) is absolutely terrifying. At the moment I'm reconsidering atheism on the basis that even vague promises of help from the supernatural might be handy.

Thanks to everyone who keeps posting. You're all stars. Keep kicking your local CLP (where appropriate). If enough of us get stuck Labour will change, as it will have to. I bet UKIP's recent rah-rahing and successes have turned the tables on the Blairites. No point tacking further rightwards, so where to go..? Answers on a postcard please.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 5:58 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:Hi all, still reading and lurking. My new job is challenging beyond belief - I have one more week with the incumbent manager who's going on a round the world trek - and then I'm on my own...

The number of subjects that I have to make sure I know: Active Directory, pivot tables, various import/export routines, cloud based email spam software and a Progress based ERP system (amongst the highlights) is absolutely terrifying. At the moment I'm reconsidering atheism on the basis that even vague promises of help from the supernatural might be handy.

Thanks to everyone who keeps posting. You're all stars. Keep kicking your local CLP (where appropriate). If enough of us get stuck Labour will change, as it will have to. I bet UKIP's recent rah-rahing and successes have turned the tables on the Blairites. No point tacking further rightwards, so where to go..? Answers on a postcard please.

Hello Ernst. Good to hear from you. Alive and definitely kicking here.

What is this extremely complicated / techy sounding job?

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 6:11 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Thank you all muchly for the happy returns.

The irony is - would you believe it - I'm sitting here putting off doing the preparation for sorting out my f****ing tax return.
Oh well, I've just finished preparing dinner...son#s on his way back from the NFL at Wembley...we think it was his team that won in the dying seconds so he should be happy.

Happy Birthday!
Well, whichever team he supports it was an amazing game.

Equal biggest comeback in NFL history.

And I have never seen a team miss a field goal but get to take it again (5 yards further back) because they incurred a delay of game penalty.

Now to make myself really unpopular!
In a proper football match it was a superb game and the best Manchester United performance for a since the end of season 2012-2013.
I'll duck now!

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 6:22 pm

rearofthestore wrote: Now to make myself really unpopular!
In a proper football match it was a superb game and the best Manchester United performance for a since the end of season 2012-2013.
I'll duck now!

Hey, don't go.

I agree it was the best we've played this season & the point feels like a win, such was my belief that we were going to get dicked 4-0 !

City away next - gulp

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 6:28 pm

Happy Birthday Rebecca

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 6:32 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:Hi all, still reading and lurking. My new job is challenging beyond belief - I have one more week with the incumbent manager who's going on a round the world trek - and then I'm on my own...

The number of subjects that I have to make sure I know: Active Directory, pivot tables, various import/export routines, cloud based email spam software and a Progress based ERP system (amongst the highlights) is absolutely terrifying. At the moment I'm reconsidering atheism on the basis that even vague promises of help from the supernatural might be handy.

I used to hate pivot tables but since Excel 2010 came out they've been a doddle.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 6:44 pm

pk1 wrote:
rearofthestore wrote: Now to make myself really unpopular!
In a proper football match it was a superb game and the best Manchester United performance for a since the end of season 2012-2013.
I'll duck now!
Hey, don't go.

I agree it was the best we've played this season & the point feels like a win, such was my belief that we were going to get dicked 4-0 !

City away next - gulp

Oh you mean Soccer, that game played by highly paid foreigners who roll around the floor like they have been murdered if somebody so much sneezes at them.

Man U were average, but they got lucky. Chelsea were far far better in the second half (but didn't score enough). The lad Shaw looks decent, but the Man U subs bench is embarrassing. By all accounts Chelsea were robbed of a penalty by Man U fanboy Dowd.

Sadly my preferred result (both sides lose) never happens. And no it wasn't as exciting as the finale of the NFL game (I don't care about those teams either).

Man City will probably murder Man U (best hire big Sam now).

Football it seems really is the opium of the masses.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 7:00 pm

Oh you mean Soccer, that game played by highly paid foreigners who roll around the floor like they have been murdered if somebody so much sneezes at them.

Ah yes, Soccer the name given to a game played and enjoyed by the rest of the world by a non-footballing nation.
I'd better duck again!

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 7:07 pm

rearofthestore wrote:
Oh you mean Soccer, that game played by highly paid foreigners who roll around the floor like they have been murdered if somebody so much sneezes at them.
Ah yes, Soccer the name given to a game played and enjoyed by the rest of the world by a non-footballing nation.
I'd better duck again!

A non footballing nation with a World Cup team that was considerably more successful than ours last time out.

Edited to add

By the way how about the Women's game, not too shabby there either.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 7:13 pm

In celebration of the Centre for Social Justice
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetory ... stice.html

... IDS’s elevation is, in many ways, the CSJ’s. From the Universal Credit to tackling modern slavery to measuring “social value”, their work now inflects whole sections of the Government’s policy agenda. And, increasingly, it’s former CSJ staff who are called on to implement it. There’s a case that they have been the most influential think-tank of this Parliament. They are certainly the most necessary: a corrective to the persistent idea that the Tories are a party of, for and by the rich.

What next? One challenge that the CSJ might face in 2015 is a change of government. They will surely influence any Tory Party that emerges from the next election, but could they do the same for a Labour administration too? Their work is non-partisan, and much of emerges from their conversations with those in the charitable sector, so it should retain its potency. But the question remains whether Miliband & Co. will be able to see beyond the associations with IDS.

A second challenge is that of implementation. The CSJ cannot be blamed for Universal Credit’s difficult progress through Whitehall’s computer systems. No siree, that’s government’s fault. But there may be something in the idea of think-tanks working more closely with civil servants, or former civil servants, as they develop their ideas. The Dynamic Benefits report could barely have been more detailed, so I only mean this as a general point. It’s just that think-tanks do want to have their polices put into practice...

Worth reading as a bit of insight into how others perceive their actions and consequences ... might have equally graced Lib Dem Voice.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 7:36 pm

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 3h 3 hours ago
New post
No Overall Majority now an even hotter favourite for GE15 - http://po.st/pr65bK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Editing to add this quote from his post:

My view is that with the main parties looking so weak then the personalities and records of individual candidates will matter more than ever before thus adding to the overall uncertainty.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 7:50 pm

Zoe Williams @zoesqwilliams · 2h 2 hours ago
Retributive Picturehouse development: whether as punishment for going on strike or talking to the press, IDK " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Zoe Williams @zoesqwilliams · 2h 2 hours ago
Corporations have become truly nasty & repressive. The problem with the status quo, as they say, is that it's not static. It's getting worse

Zoe Williams @zoesqwilliams · 2h 2 hours ago
What I don't understand is how @picturehouses could make 92 staff redundant, without then hiring new people to do the same jobs?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 8:08 pm

Hadn't seen Labour's Lyons Report on housebuilding.

Seems to have got a decent reception. Obvious problem that council's cap on borrowing won't be lifted, per Ed Balls, whose point I can see. But it's a mistake.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 8:09 pm

The CSJ is a bunch of cronies.

It's like Policy Exchange, picking its "experts".

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 8:15 pm

Another of those Westminster never done a proper job in their life sorts selected.

http://www.harryharpham.com/about_me" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ex striking miner (and in Nottinghamshire) and Deputy Leader of Sheffield Council.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 26 Oct, 2014 8:18 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:SUSAN SIMPSON ‏@smartysue 29m29 minutes ago
Cannot believe @CarolineLucas was on TV joining in the Ed witch hunt this morning .. Any admiration I ever had has gone !

Checked SUSAN SIMPSON and found this on her page

Gracie Samuels ‏@GracieSamuels · 38m38 minutes ago
#bedroomtax came in force 1/4/13. Miliband announced Lab wld repeal it on 25/4/13 where did Lamont's12mths come from? http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/103 ... ter_visit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Would have been talking about a year from when it was announced, or voted upon, I guess.

He voted against, didn't he? Worth saying that there was all sorts of money promised in the meantime. LAs found it wasn't enough.