Saturday 25th & Sunday 26th October 2014

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 8:07 am

Morning all.

" TB says: the Telegraph story does not represent my view. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party can and will win the next election. "

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 8:36 am

Morning all.

This is optimistic from John Harris.

The Green party surge – and why it’s coming from Bristol and all points west
Polls this week put the Greens on 8%, overtaking the Lib Dems for the first time in a decade and providing a clear challenge to Ukip in the east
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... istol-west

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 8:49 am

rebeccariots2 wrote:Morning all.

This is optimistic from John Harris.

The Green party surge – and why it’s coming from Bristol and all points west
Polls this week put the Greens on 8%, overtaking the Lib Dems for the first time in a decade and providing a clear challenge to Ukip in the east
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... istol-west

In its way. But reading between the lines this is just Lib Dem fanboy (and faux socialist) Harris trying to stir it.

Anything to keep the Lib Dems in power.

The Greens should have a shout in the Deep South West; I would be interested in how they are getting on in Cornwall for example. Harris however just bangs on about Bristol, where the most likely result of that is a Tory MP.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 9:27 am

Anyone able to translate this from a Cif comment please ?

Can't work out whether it is complimentary or critical of Alex Salmond.

''Lost Alex Salmond? Naw chance, he's no awa tae bide awa.''

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 9:42 am

RobertSnozers wrote:Looks as though Johan Lamont, after having screwed up running Scottish Labour has decided to have a go at bringing the whole party down. Well done.

Brown for First Minister.

Absolutely.Brown would be the best antidote to the snp,oh,how good that would be,Brown and Miliband.

edited to add,good morning.What a beautiful day it is.My house now smells of happy,muddy dogs after they chased each other over ploughed fields and then rolled around in the wood.Didn't want this sofa anyway.

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 9:54 am

Morning all...some members of the CSA Inquiry panel have links to various existing aspects of the enquiry...

https://childsexualabuseinquiry.indepen ... .10.14.pdf

...that's Gerald Malone, PPS to Brittan from 85-87 and then...

https://childsexualabuseinquiry.indepen ... retary.pdf

...including Tory Blurs' daughter as a Trustee of her charity and (and I'm not making this upTM) funding from the Lord Mayors Office - also the NYT has picked it up...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/world ... .html?_r=1

As ever, apologies if these have already been linked.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 10:04 am

Morning all.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Morning all.

This is optimistic from John Harris.

The Green party surge – and why it’s coming from Bristol and all points west
Polls this week put the Greens on 8%, overtaking the Lib Dems for the first time in a decade and providing a clear challenge to Ukip in the east
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... istol-west
In its way. But reading between the lines this is just Lib Dem fanboy (and faux socialist) Harris trying to stir it.

Anything to keep the Lib Dems in power.

The Greens should have a shout in the Deep South West; I would be interested in how they are getting on in Cornwall for example. Harris however just bangs on about Bristol, where the most likely result of that is a Tory MP.

I had hopes for Harris; during the run up to the Health and Social Care Bill, he was virtually the only Graun scribbler speaking out against it (even Polly & Zoe were oddly silent until almost the last minute). But since then he has, as you say, reverted to type as a Clegg fanboi; presumably Rusbridger sent the messrs Watt, Kettle & Wintour round to have a "chat" with him.

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 10:07 am

yahyah wrote:Anyone able to translate this from a Cif comment please ?

Can't work out whether it is complimentary or critical of Alex Salmond.

''Lost Alex Salmond? Naw chance, he's no awa tae bide awa.''

"Alec Salmond gone (as in out of public eye)? No chance, he's not going to go off and twiddle his thumbs" - so more of a compliment I think...but my translation skills may not be entirely accurate

I suppose it's too much to hope that Brown and Salmond could grow up a bit and 'take it' to their common enemy? Salmond, in the short bit I saw of QT, was passionate in his defence of the English NHS (more so, I think, than I've heard from any English politician apart from Burnham) - and his Murchydochian credentials took a bit of a hit when Uncle Rupe realised that 'Yes' had the support of Socialists and Greens.

As ever, I live in Hope (just north of Peterborough

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 10:50 am

RobertSnozers wrote:Looks as though Johan Lamont, after having screwed up running Scottish Labour has decided to have a go at bringing the whole party down. Well done.

Brown for First Minister.

In her dreams

She was an improvement on Iain Gray - but at the end of the day, meeting that not exactly exacting standard was never enough.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 11:06 am

Morning.

Link to UC pathfinder evaluation page 55 has the eligibility criteria (or more correctly what excludes people)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... evaluation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PS I note their glaring error of Disability Learning Allowance

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... evaluation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FOI response relevant to recent Independent and Francis Ryan articles

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... o-sep-2013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DonutHingeParty · Post by **DonutHingeParty** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 12:47 pm

This was annoying me for ages, but it clicked this morning. UKIP Calypso sounds like Iko Iko by the Belle Stars, off of Rain Man, the first verse of which is about elderly people being racist. If anyone wants to edit for youtube embedding feel free.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:02 pm

Intriguing.
Just read the calls for Gordon Brown to head the SLP.
And yesterday? The Guardian had an article about MPs outside earnings...Gordon Brown tops the list via lecturing, but, and it's a big but, the article said he doesn't actually take the earnings as pay instead they're invested in a fund for his future political career.

Mmmmm.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:05 pm

Good afternoon.

Did anyone else see\hear the David Cameron at the EU clip on the news yesterday? (The one where he said "If you think I'm paying . . . . . Well I aren't!") Tickled me. You have to find cheer any way you can, these days.

Edited

Brackets

Edited. Again. Comma removal (ie error in first edit). I think I might just give up and go back to bed.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:08 pm

Attended our local scouts jumble sale this morning. If what had been donated is anything to go by, the country is indeed in a shocking state.
However, I did manage to find a few books to read. Now I'm faced with an agonising choice. Should I do some chores or go to bed for the afternoon with one of the books. Decisions, decisions...

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:15 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Attended our local scouts jumble sale this morning. If what had been donated is anything to go by, the country is indeed in a shocking state.
However, I did manage to find a few books to read. Now I'm faced with an agonising choice. Should I do some chores or go to bed for the afternoon with one of the books. Decisions, decisions...

That's a very easy choice Ohso, isn't it?

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:29 pm

Dispatches programme about UC. A bit different from the rose tinted view of the DWP report according to this. Nevertheless I expect it has a scrounged angle somewhere, as it's part of the Benefits Britain genre.

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/c7bzc ... dispatches" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **refitman** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:34 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Intriguing.
Just read the calls for Gordon Brown to head the SLP.
And yesterday? The Guardian had an article about MPs outside earnings...Gordon Brown tops the list via lecturing, but, and it's a big but, the article said he doesn't actually take the earnings as pay instead they're invested in a fund for his future political career.

Mmmmm.

I thought it all went to the education charity set up by him and his wife?

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:35 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Intriguing.
Just read the calls for Gordon Brown to head the SLP.
And yesterday? The Guardian had an article about MPs outside earnings...Gordon Brown tops the list via lecturing, but, and it's a big but, the article said he doesn't actually take the earnings as pay instead they're invested in a fund for his future political career.

Mmmmm.

Is that what the article said. Naughty Guardian, being disingenuous to the last.

Brown's earnings from lecturing are all paid to a limited company, The Office of Gordon & Sarah Brown. According to their website Brown takes no salary from the company - his sole income is his MP's salary (he renounced the pension he is entitled to receive as an ex-PM) - and the company pays corporation tax on all the profits; the role of the company is provide support for the charity work that both of the Brown's are involved with, including his work as UN Special Envoy for Global Education.

Rusty's mate Guido has been trying to paint this as some kind of dodgy operation for a couple of years ("this so-called charity has only given £1m to charity" .... despite knowing full well what the real situation is), but I'm surprised that the Guardian has choaen to aid & abet the whispering campaign.

http://gordonandsarahbrown.com/office-o ... rah-brown/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Before anybody starts, none of that was evidence of partisanship. I'm a genuine admirer of the work Brown has done since 2010, including his continued efforts to secure the release of those poor girls in Nigeria kidnapped by Boko Haram.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:38 pm

@TGS - the man with the detail.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:38 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Attended our local scouts jumble sale this morning. If what had been donated is anything to go by, the country is indeed in a shocking state.

Don't know if it's partly nostalgia, but I found this very moving.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 1:42 pm

refitman wrote:@TGS - the man with the detail.

Ah, but you've got all those boxes to attend to, whereas I don't. Good luck with the moving!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 2:18 pm

Government admits Disabled Students' Allowance changes will have a negative impact on disabled students

http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2014/1 ... -students/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 2:21 pm

HindleA wrote:Morning.

Link to UC pathfinder evaluation page 55 has the eligibility criteria (or more correctly what excludes people)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... evaluation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PS I note their glaring error of Disability Learning Allowance

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... evaluation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FOI response relevant to recent Independent and Francis Ryan articles

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... o-sep-2013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for the links, A.

Interesting to note the discrepancy in figures between Parkinson's and MS. The former is three times more prevalent and the average age of onset way below todays retirement age.

Makes me think a lot of families are supporting disabled partners rather than allow them to go through assessments.

I'm on my second time trying to post, if this one goes whoopsy I might just get a bit paranoid.

I'm angry today, and not in a mood to disguise it. I'm fed up that parliament has allowed the evil DWP fools to do the things they've done, and that they haven't been held to account. The country is being run like a dictatorship while government maintains a pretence of democracy.

The casualties are mounting up and we get little that acknowledges that in the mainstream. Why isn't this country more angry? It's got to the point that you would have to be sensorially deprived not to notice.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 2:36 pm

Just a reminder there is an Analysis programme "Inside Welfare Reform "with J.Portes.
Radio 4 Monday 27th 20.30 repeated Sunday 3rd Nov.21.30

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mc1hv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 2:51 pm

: miliband cameron.jpg (24.53 KiB) Viewed 21283 times

So Miliband looks weird and Cameron looks Prime Ministerial?

Right.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 2:56 pm

Rafael Behr retweeted
Seth Jacobson @Lindapalermo · Oct 24
'I am not paying that bill. France had a starter and a dessert, I only had a main. And Italy drank two bottles of red'

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 3:00 pm

Rafael Behr @rafaelbehr · Oct 24
Big picture: if idea of EU budget as redistribtion between member states gets as toxic as free lab movt between them, 'in' is lost cause.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 3:03 pm

It's certainly a worry that Cameron doesn't seem to understand how things work. Disconcerting that he thinks that being "surprised" by an entirely expected invoice is any other than profoundly incompetent.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 3:25 pm

If there was ever any doubt that headlines are written to cause as much damage & click bait as possible, today's example in the Graun proves it conclusively.

First thing there were 2 articles about Lamont standing down. One said that she "resigns as Leader of Scottish Labour Party" whilst the other said she quits

The one saying has now been changed to say "Miliband barred Lamont from attacking bedroom tax for 12 months" !!

Think back to when Ed M announced that Labour would abolish the bedroom tax then ask yourself whether that headline is in any way accurate.

No, me neither......

edit to add:

I reserve the right to insult the likes of @strategem however, whose post missed first place so had to make do with replying to the first in order to be seen. Today's 'ripper' from him:

That picture above.
Ed Miliband at his best, kissing and then "stabbing" her in the back just like he did with his own brother.

I'm surprised however that my reply to him has not been moderated:

One day you might grow up to not be a petty, spiteful, little man.

One has to take their opportunities whenever they present....

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 3:57 pm

Afternoon all. Internet has been dire today and only had a decent service for the past half hour.

Not politics but some of you may wish to know that the bassist jack Bruce has died.

http://www.jackbruce.com/

One of his greatest songs.

[youtube]YguY_jUDXRs[/youtube]

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:05 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Afternoon all. Internet has been dire today and only had a decent service for the past half hour.

Not politics but some of you may wish to know that the bassist jack Bruce has died.

http://www.jackbruce.com/

One of his greatest songs.

[youtube]YguY_jUDXRs[/youtube]

Hello. I'm reading that reports of his death are a hoax. He's supposedly alive and well. Or is that a hoax?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:14 pm

PorFavor wrote:
Hello. I'm reading that reports of his death are a hoax. He's supposedly alive and well. Or is that a hoax?

There was a hoax a couple of days ago but the news is up on his official website now so seems to be true.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:22 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
Hello. I'm reading that reports of his death are a hoax. He's supposedly alive and well. Or is that a hoax?
There was a hoax a couple of days ago but the news is up on his official website now so seems to be true.

So was the hoax a hoax or not?

Great musician.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:28 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Afternoon all. Internet has been dire today and only had a decent service for the past half hour.

Not politics but some of you may wish to know that the bassist jack Bruce has died.

http://www.jackbruce.com/

One of his greatest songs.

Was always a fan of Sunshine of Your Love.

[youtube]16h6vLy6n4A[/youtube]

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:49 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Afternoon all. Internet has been dire today and only had a decent service for the past half hour.

Not politics but some of you may wish to know that the bassist jack Bruce has died.

http://www.jackbruce.com/

One of his greatest songs.

[youtube]YguY_jUDXRs[/youtube]

Very sad to hear this news confirmed.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 4:55 pm

Source of todays anger. Apologies if it was posted yesterday. This is happening already. Have no idea whether it applies to people in the richer, leafier Tory boroughs but it wouldn't surprise me.

340,000 Elderly will be denied care in new.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tasks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Especially angered by point 8 in their handy little table of needs. What the **** is it even doing there?
I wonder if people are even aware of where the bar is set for these care needs.

You have to be past caring for real response to most of them. Otherwise you get offered something so useless that you refuse. Then they shut your case down. Even the OTs are ashamed of having to deliver the stuff they do, because they remember when they delivered something real while people still had the will to live.

I don't trust the DM either.
Are they trying to scare people into becoming past caring, or is this a heads up for an new ageist agenda?

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 5:17 pm

HindleA wrote:Government admits Disabled Students' Allowance changes will have a negative impact on disabled students

http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2014/1 ... -students/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Couldn't help noticing the wrong use of 'accommodation' in this article. Even people with minor impairments will customarily need accommodations, plural, to address their needs, and those of assessment, examining boards etc. it's transactional, agreements are usually made and documented.

Nitpicking I know, but accommodation usually refers to a place in which to stay, unless it is a single item among the aforementioned accommodations. Gives the wrong impression.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 5:21 pm

seeingclearly wrote:Source of todays anger. Apologies if it was posted yesterday. This is happening already. Have no idea whether it applies to people in the richer, leafier Tory boroughs but it wouldn't surprise me.

340,000 Elderly will be denied care in new.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tasks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Especially angered by point 8 in their handy little table of needs. What the **** is it even doing there?
I wonder if people are even aware of where the bar is set for these care needs.

You have to be past caring for real response to most of them. Otherwise you get offered something so useless that you refuse. Then they shut your case down. Even the OTs are ashamed of having to deliver the stuff they do, because they remember when they delivered something real while people still had the will to live.

I don't trust the DM either.
Are they trying to scare people into becoming past caring, or is this a heads up for an new ageist agenda?

It includes people of all ages,not just the elderly.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 5:29 pm

Asda may face mass legal claim over equal pay
Supermarket chain Asda in firing line as law firm lines up thousands of claimants for equal pay case

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... l-pay.html

Glad to see this. Asda is owned by Walmart and they are a dreadful company to work for.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 5:57 pm

As far as Jack Bruce is concerned, seek out his collaborations (Lifetime) with John McLaughlin and the late Tony Williams circa 1970.

Amazing stuff which should be much better known than it is

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 5:59 pm

For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:02 pm

For me you can't beat Jack Bruce on the non-bluesy Cream tracks, particularly the Pete Brown lyric ones.
Great voice, great bass. RIP.

Was thinking of starting a 'Desert Island Discs' thread in The Pub, your 10 favourite/most important pieces of music. At least one with Bruce singing/playing would be on my list.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:04 pm

NonOxCol wrote:For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

I'm old enough to remember when she was a Graun journalist and a leftie - or at least made out that she was.

Of course, such a pretence wouldn't be necessary now

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:06 pm

NonOxCol wrote:For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

I agree - a more pointless bunch of people it would be hard to find.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:10 pm

@NonOxCol
Hello, there!

I've always meant to mention this - when other posters abbreviate your name (NOC) it always throws me momentarily as I process it as "No Overall Control". Right. That's that dealt with. As you were . . .

Hope all's well with you.

Edited to remove both extraneous ellipse and letter "t".

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:12 pm

NonOxCol wrote:For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

I complained to the BBC last week about Ben Brown on the BBC News channel saying three times that doctors would be paid '55 quid' to diagnose Alzheimer's disease.
It seemed inappropriate when doing an interview about such an important topic.

The BBC's reply.....

Dear Mrs xxxxxx

Reference CAS-2982667-ZN34JZ

Thanks for contacting us regarding BBC News Channel broadcast on October 22.

We understand you felt Ben Brown used poor language when referring to £55 as “55 quid”.

Presenters are expected to have a good command of standard English, but it's also important they come across as approachable and easy for viewers to identify with. In such contexts it may be considered appropriate for them to speak 'colloquially' rather than formally.

We don't engage any presenter unless we believe they're competent and can meet the specific demands required of them.

Thank you again for contacting us, we value your feedback about our news presenters.

All complaints are sent to senior management and news editors every morning and we’ve included your points in this overnight report. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

Kind regards

Neil Salt
BBC Complaints
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:18 pm

yahyah wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

I complained to the BBC last week about Ben Brown on the BBC News channel saying three times that doctors would be paid '55 quid' to diagnose Alzheimer's disease.
It seemed inappropriate when doing an interview about such an important topic.

The BBC's reply.....

Dear Mrs xxxxxx

Reference CAS-2982667-ZN34JZ

Thanks for contacting us regarding BBC News Channel broadcast on October 22.

We understand you felt Ben Brown used poor language when referring to £55 as “55 quid”.

Presenters are expected to have a good command of standard English, but it's also important they come across as approachable and easy for viewers to identify with. In such contexts it may be considered appropriate for them to speak 'colloquially' rather than formally.

We don't engage any presenter unless we believe they're competent and can meet the specific demands required of them.

Thank you again for contacting us, we value your feedback about our news presenters.

All complaints are sent to senior management and news editors every morning and we’ve included your points in this overnight report. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

Kind regards

Neil Salt
BBC Complaints
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It'll be 55 nicker next. Oh - and David Cameron will be refusing to come up with the old spondulicks to pay the EU.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:21 pm

PorFavor wrote:
yahyah wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:For the sake of your blood pressure, I hope no-one's watching Pointless Celebrities.

Kelvin MacKenzie, Nick Ferrari, Stanley Johnson and Julia Hartley-Brewer. On a tea time family quiz show.

The BBC in 2014.

I complained to the BBC last week about Ben Brown on the BBC News channel saying three times that doctors would be paid '55 quid' to diagnose Alzheimer's disease.
It seemed inappropriate when doing an interview about such an important topic.

The BBC's reply.....

Dear Mrs xxxxxx

Reference CAS-2982667-ZN34JZ

Thanks for contacting us regarding BBC News Channel broadcast on October 22.

We understand you felt Ben Brown used poor language when referring to £55 as “55 quid”.

Presenters are expected to have a good command of standard English, but it's also important they come across as approachable and easy for viewers to identify with. In such contexts it may be considered appropriate for them to speak 'colloquially' rather than formally.

We don't engage any presenter unless we believe they're competent and can meet the specific demands required of them.

Thank you again for contacting us, we value your feedback about our news presenters.

All complaints are sent to senior management and news editors every morning and we’ve included your points in this overnight report. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

Kind regards

Neil Salt
BBC Complaints
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It'll be 55 nicker next. Oh - and David Cameron will be refusing to come up with the old spondulicks to pay the EU.

Don't speak too soon...

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:22 pm

PorFavor wrote:@NonOxCol
Hello, there!

I've always meant to mention this - when other posters abbreviate your name (NOC) it always throws me momentarily as I process it as "No Overall Control". Right. That's that dealt with. As you were . . .

Hope all's well with you.

Edited to remove both extraneous ellipse and letter "t".

I remember making a "get my coat" level gag about the NOC abbreviation during council election results in the dim and distant days before nesting and f***ing Beta.

Someone on the cricket threads managed to call me a Non Commissioned Officer the other week.

I hope you enjoyed the return to prominence of Mike Read this week. He really should have stayed underground though.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sat 25 Oct, 2014 6:29 pm

http://academiesweek.co.uk/englands-lar ... l-concern/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apols if I have posted something that has already been done, haven't been online for around 20 hours, which is a long time for me.

Normally enjoy Pointless, but with that line-up I would sooner watch ''Come dine with me''