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Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 7:00 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 10:04 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Christ, Priti Patel doesn't get any less dense. I've just seen her on Sky TV news where she demonstrated that she doesn't know the difference between minimum and maximum.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 10:08 am
by gilsey
Good morning.


Europeans will have to stop being sniffy at Trump's superspreader events, now Macron's caught the virus.
Plenty of masks at that EU summit last week but not much social distancing in evidence.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 10:10 am
by gilsey
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Christ, Priti Patel doesn't get any less dense. I've just seen her on Sky TV news where she demonstrated that she doesn't know the difference between minimum and maximum.
Suella Braverman could give her a run for her money.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 10:27 am
by gilsey

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 11:10 am
by gilsey
Liz Truss says hold my beer.
Lucy Fisher
@LOS_Fisher
Replying to
@LOS_Fisher
Gvt will seek to promote equality by handing people greater agency over their lives & making systems more transparent, Truss will say.

She’ll point to reform like independent taxation of women in 1988, which finally gave married women control over their own money.
Eh?


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Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 12:47 pm
by PorFavor
Run that one by me again - who should be ashamed?
Rees-Mogg accuses Unicef of 'political stunt of lowest order' after it funds food aid in UK

In the Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leader of the Commons has accused Unicef of “playing politics” through its decision to spend money alleviating food poverty in the UK for the first time in its 70-year history as an aid organisation.

In response to a question about the development from Labour’s Zarah Sultana, he said:

I think it is a real scandal that Unicef should be playing politics in this way when it is meant to be looking after people in the poorest, the most deprived, countries of the world where people are starving, where there are famines and where there are civil wars, and they make cheap political points of this kind, giving, I think, 25,000 to one council. It is a political stunt of the lowest order.

Unicef should be ashamed of itself. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 1:22 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:Good morning.


Europeans will have to stop being sniffy at Trump's superspreader events, now Macron's caught the virus.
Plenty of masks at that EU summit last week but not much social distancing in evidence.
Already speculation it might make him more likely to accept any EU deal with the UK.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 1:49 pm
by Willow904
I thought Rees-Mogg found foodbanks "uplifting". You'd think he'd be pleased by Unicef's donation. He can be "uplifted" on a global scale.

:toss:

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 2:05 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
A genuine gaffe machine, even by this lot's standards.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 2:24 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Afternoon all.

Looks like Paul Staines tried to teach Chris Giles, Economics Editor of the FT about...economics.
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
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You can surely do better than that, Paul

I talked about "the economy of Harrods" and we measure the size of an economy with GVA.

Please apologise and then learn some economics

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:D

No apology - just delete and pretend it never happened.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 3:57 pm
by citizenJA
Good afternoon, everyone.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 4:36 pm
by citizenJA
How can Northern Ireland remain in the EU but the rest of the UK can't?

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 5:06 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Sam Freedman
@Samfr
If the Government are concerned that charities are "playing politics" with child hunger in the UK they could try making sure that children weren't going hungry in the UK.
3:18 PM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter for Android

Sam Freedman
@Samfr
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1h
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@Samfr
It is absolutely true that children in one of the richest countries in the world shouldn't require charity to be properly fed. And yet.
Well quite.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 5:08 pm
by RogerOThornhill
And Edu Twitter is almost to a man, really, really unimpressed with the DfE...
John Roberts
@JohnGRoberts
So most secondary school pupils will be learning online in the first week back next year. Only exam groups back in person. . . This DfE announcement comes *in the same week* the DfE took legal action to stop some London schools moving online this week.
:roll:

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 5:49 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:How can Northern Ireland remain in the EU but the rest of the UK can't?
Who is saying they will?

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 6:14 pm
by gilsey
citizenJA wrote:How can Northern Ireland remain in the EU but the rest of the UK can't?
Not the EU, but the single market for goods & customs union.

Short answer:

Good Friday Agreement + tory headbangers = constitutional clusterf***



Long answer: you'd need to specify how long, it could fill a book.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 6:45 pm
by RogerOThornhill
This is brilliant.

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Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 7:05 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Though it can maybe be argued that opposing the Zulus was also a sort of anti-imperialism!

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 7:13 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:How can Northern Ireland remain in the EU but the rest of the UK can't?
Who is saying they will?
forgive me
I've made an error
I did mean NI staying within the EU's single market

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 7:15 pm
by citizenJA
gilsey wrote:
citizenJA wrote:How can Northern Ireland remain in the EU but the rest of the UK can't?
Not the EU, but the single market for goods & customs union.

Short answer:

Good Friday Agreement + tory headbangers = constitutional clusterf***



Long answer: you'd need to specify how long, it could fill a book.
I think millions of us moving to NI for single market access will shake up leadership

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 8:15 pm
by GetYou
It's only "playing politics" if your politics are opposed to feeding poor people.

For most of us, it is one of the marks of a civilised society.

It is along the same line as using "do-gooder" as an insult, whereas most of us would wear that as a badge of honour.

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 8:26 pm
by citizenJA
GetYou wrote:It's only "playing politics" if your politics are opposed to feeding poor people.

For most of us, it is one of the marks of a civilised society.

It is along the same line as using "do-gooder" as an insult, whereas most of us would wear that as a badge of honour.
Does Rees-Mogg know what he's said is disgraceful?

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 8:49 pm
by GetYou
There have been some good links posted on here today, thanks everyone.

Here's one I found interesting https://twitter.com/RespectIsVital/stat ... 5866540033

Re: Thursday 17th December 2020

Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2020 10:34 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Lewis Goodall
@lewis_goodall
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Fair to say teachers are incandescent.

One head tells me: "When they said mass testing I thought naively they meant a mobile testing unit manned by the army. I didn't realise it was my job to use my own staff and sort out every aspect of logistics around testing myself..."