Tuesday 28th October 2014

[letsskiptotheleft]

MagsNews retweeted
YorksLass ‏@ChrissieOAP · 1h1 hour ago
.@MagsNews Tory MatthewHancock is thick, he accused Labour of bringing up JimmySaville in debateThey, were talking abt LordSavlie re Coal

sometimes I just don't quite follow tweets....

Didn't catch that, must happened during the coal fields regeneration debate. One thing we can know for certain though, Matthew Hancock is as thick as a canteen cup.

[letsskiptotheleft]

Hey, I always thought the SNP were true progressives, socialists, that dying band who these days can only be found north of Carlisle?

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... ord-levels" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If that is the case then, why is student debt increasing faster amongst those from poorer backgrounds? Would it be because the SNP have cut their grants by 40%? Confused, I was led to believe they believed in an egalitarian state?

[letsskiptotheleft]

I sense the lethal hand of Vincent Cable here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... pport.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[rebeccariots2]

Rural voters feel alienated by coalition Government - poll
http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Rur ... story.html

... A survey commissioned by the Countryside Alliance found that 86% of rural voters feel they have been alienated by the Tories and Lib Dems in power.

Polling carried out by Opinion Research Business also revealed that no political party has convincingly secured the rural vote.

Some 22% of those polled in the countryside voters said they would vote for the Tories, 20% for Labour and 17% for UKIP. The Lib Dems would get just 5% of the share...

Interesting tactic / poll results (but wouldn't like to imagine their polling sample and methodology...) - but this should really be taken as just the Countryside Alliance again rattling the cage of the Tories pre election to make sure they get their repeal of the hunting ban included in manifestos .... We can expect lots of this stuff over the next 6 months. I worry for our environment and wildlife if these current sh*ts get elected again.

When asked what the Tories must do to win the countryside vote next year, transport (15%) led the list of concerns in the poll, followed by immigration (14%) and an EU referendum (10%).

Sir Barney White-Spunner, executive chairman of the Countryside Alliance, said in August that rural voters “want and expect” a pledge to repeal the hunting ban to be included in the Tories’ pitch to voters.

[ErnstRemarx]

Rural voters feel alienated by coalition Government - poll
http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Rur ... story.html

... A survey commissioned by the Countryside Alliance found that 86% of rural voters feel they have been alienated by the Tories and Lib Dems in power.

Polling carried out by Opinion Research Business also revealed that no political party has convincingly secured the rural vote.

Some 22% of those polled in the countryside voters said they would vote for the Tories, 20% for Labour and 17% for UKIP. The Lib Dems would get just 5% of the share...

Interesting tactic / poll results (but wouldn't like to imagine their polling sample and methodology...) - but this should really be taken as just the Countryside Alliance again rattling the cage of the Tories pre election to make sure they get their repeal of the hunting ban included in manifestos .... We can expect lots of this stuff over the next 6 months. I worry for our environment and wildlife if these current sh*ts get elected again.

When asked what the Tories must do to win the countryside vote next year, transport (15%) led the list of concerns in the poll, followed by immigration (14%) and an EU referendum (10%).

Sir Barney White-Spunner, executive chairman of the Countryside Alliance, said in August that rural voters “want and expect” a pledge to repeal the hunting ban to be included in the Tories’ pitch to voters.

Sir Barney White-Spunner can kiss my fat sweaty arse. All polls show people dislike fox hunting, and if they think that any party (barring the headbangers in UKIP) would include it, I suspect he's deluded. It's history adn should remain so. It's shaneful he could see it through any other prism.

[TechnicalEphemera]

I sense the lethal hand of Vincent Cable here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... pport.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nah - this is what happened.

Empty Dave.

- I say Cleggy old chap, bit of a bother with this referendum bill rubbish. Utterly pointless shambles, but I can't just kill it off. Do you mind if I make a song and dance about it and blame you for sinking it.

Calamity Clegg.

- look Dave my friend, no can do; what's in it for me?

Empty Dave.

- Hmmm, tricky. Could you perhaps blame us for something in return?

Calamity Clegg

- Excellent idea old chum. How about I claim you refused to reform the bedroom tax as part of the deal. That way you look anti-Europe and mean and I look kind hearted and concerned. Plus we carry on screwing the poor and the Euro nutters.

- Empty Dave.

- Cleggy my boy that is genius. Excellent call, now how about we hop over to the club for a bite to eat and some Pimms. Later on maybe we could take turns playing blind mans bluff with IDS.

[letsskiptotheleft]

Much more plausible TE, much more.

[LadyCentauria]

Goodnight, everyone.

Goodnight, PF

[rebeccariots2]

Rural voters feel alienated by coalition Government - poll
http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Rur ... story.html

... A survey commissioned by the Countryside Alliance found that 86% of rural voters feel they have been alienated by the Tories and Lib Dems in power.

Polling carried out by Opinion Research Business also revealed that no political party has convincingly secured the rural vote.

Some 22% of those polled in the countryside voters said they would vote for the Tories, 20% for Labour and 17% for UKIP. The Lib Dems would get just 5% of the share...

Interesting tactic / poll results (but wouldn't like to imagine their polling sample and methodology...) - but this should really be taken as just the Countryside Alliance again rattling the cage of the Tories pre election to make sure they get their repeal of the hunting ban included in manifestos .... We can expect lots of this stuff over the next 6 months. I worry for our environment and wildlife if these current sh*ts get elected again.

When asked what the Tories must do to win the countryside vote next year, transport (15%) led the list of concerns in the poll, followed by immigration (14%) and an EU referendum (10%).

Sir Barney White-Spunner, executive chairman of the Countryside Alliance, said in August that rural voters “want and expect” a pledge to repeal the hunting ban to be included in the Tories’ pitch to voters.

Sir Barney White-Spunner can kiss my fat sweaty arse. All polls show people dislike fox hunting, and if they think that any party (barring the headbangers in UKIP) would include it, I suspect he's deluded. It's history adn should remain so. It's shaneful he could see it through any other prism.

Yes - most decent people don't want hunting .... but some big Tory donors with the money do ... there's the rub for Dave and co.

[AngryAsWell]

Rural voters feel alienated by coalition Government - poll
http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Rur ... story.html

... A survey commissioned by the Countryside Alliance found that 86% of rural voters feel they have been alienated by the Tories and Lib Dems in power.

Polling carried out by Opinion Research Business also revealed that no political party has convincingly secured the rural vote.

Some 22% of those polled in the countryside voters said they would vote for the Tories, 20% for Labour and 17% for UKIP. The Lib Dems would get just 5% of the share...

Interesting tactic / poll results (but wouldn't like to imagine their polling sample and methodology...) - but this should really be taken as just the Countryside Alliance again rattling the cage of the Tories pre election to make sure they get their repeal of the hunting ban included in manifestos .... We can expect lots of this stuff over the next 6 months. I worry for our environment and wildlife if these current sh*ts get elected again.

When asked what the Tories must do to win the countryside vote next year, transport (15%) led the list of concerns in the poll, followed by immigration (14%) and an EU referendum (10%).

Sir Barney White-Spunner, executive chairman of the Countryside Alliance, said in August that rural voters “want and expect” a pledge to repeal the hunting ban to be included in the Tories’ pitch to voters.

Sir Barney White-Spunner can kiss my fat sweaty arse. All polls show people dislike fox hunting, and if they think that any party (barring the headbangers in UKIP) would include it, I suspect he's deluded. It's history adn should remain so. It's shaneful he could see it through any other prism.

It's already on the cards
"MP and Government Minister Elizabeth Truss says ban on fox hunting “a mistake” and she would like Hunting Act repealed"
September 30, 2014
http://www.wisbechstandard.co.uk/news/m ... _1_3788889" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AngryAsWell]

Goodnight, everyone.

Goodnight, PF

....and from me

[HindleA]

Apparently there was an earthquake(2.6) near Mansfield this evening.
http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/earthq ... vents.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[letsskiptotheleft]

Apparently there was an earthquake(2.6) near Mansfield this evening.

Anything to do with UKIP? They keep promising one.

[AngryAsWell]

"Can Labour’s Lee Sherriff become Cumbria’s first female MP?
She’s a single mother with four jobs and scant experience in politics. So why did Sherriff decide to stand for parliament? And can her strategy of ‘being one of the people’ win over electors in Carlisle?"

Do I detect a little sneeriness in this article? or is it just me?

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... f-comments" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

Apparently there was an earthquake(2.6) near Mansfield this evening.

Anything to do with UKIP? They keep promising one.

It's near me but I didn't" feel the Earth move"

[AngryAsWell]

Preston Park Labour ‏@PrestonParkLab · Oct 27
Out talking to Prestonville residents this evening - lots of disillusioned ex-Green supporters returning to Labour @bhlabour

Anything happened in Preston Park to disillusion Green Voters?

[HindleA]

@AngryAsWell


I read it a bit earlier and felt the same way.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Few names and numbers on foxhunting votes.

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/MPs- ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[rebeccariots2]

Government ‘is starting to help 120,000 troubled families’
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... ty-figures

I'm confused. Are these the same 'troubled' families that we were told had been 'turned around' not long ago?

Which is it then - starting to help - or - turned around? They don't say the same to me at all.

I'd better read the article now.

[adam]

Labour back to a 1 point lead in tonight's YouGov poll for The Sun...

Lab 33
Con 32
UKIP 17
Lib Dem 8
Green 5

[TechnicalEphemera]

Apparently there was an earthquake(2.6) near Mansfield this evening.

Anything to do with UKIP? They keep promising one.

It's near me but I didn't" feel the Earth move"

At 2.6 on the Richter scale I doubt it would disrupt a game of snooker.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick 17m17 minutes ago
Wednesday's i front page:
Home Office in 'mess' over asylum

[HindleA]

Anything to do with UKIP? They keep promising one.

It's near me but I didn't" feel the Earth move"

At 2.6 on the Richter scale I doubt it would disrupt a game of snooker.

True.

[rebeccariots2]

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 33m 33 minutes ago
LAB back in the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll
LAB 33% +
CON 32% =
UKIP 17% -1
LD 8% =
GRN - 5% -1

Editing to add: Ah, apols Adam, just seen you had already posted.

[rebeccariots2]

Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 40m40 minutes ago
EXCL: Almost half of all Labour voters in Rochester are going to defect to Ukip: http://bit.ly/1yGTLkI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mike Smithson
‏@MSmithsonPB
@Sun_Politics falling for the "secret internal polling" spin line.

Smelling salts needed for that one.

[TechnicalEphemera]

Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics 40m40 minutes ago
EXCL: Almost half of all Labour voters in Rochester are going to defect to Ukip: http://bit.ly/1yGTLkI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mike Smithson
‏@MSmithsonPB
@Sun_Politics falling for the "secret internal polling" spin line.

Smelling salts needed for that one.

Of course they are. They know if Dave loses he is in the shit.

[Tish]

Leon Brittan finally named in Parliament, in a strange roundabout sort of way.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... abuse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[refitman]

Anything to do with UKIP? They keep promising one.

It's near me but I didn't" feel the Earth move"

At 2.6 on the Richter scale I doubt it would disrupt a game of snooker.

Point of order. It is a 'magnitude' 2.6 quake, not Richter scale.

[adam]

Today I have mostly been to Brownsea Island and seen lots of red squirrels.

[TechnicalEphemera]

It's near me but I didn't" feel the Earth move"

At 2.6 on the Richter scale I doubt it would disrupt a game of snooker.

Point of order. It is a 'magnitude' 2.6 quake, not Richter scale.

2.6 ML (which if I understand the BGS definition is Richter, other magnitude definitions do exist). But I might not, anyway it is logarithmic so meh.

[TechnicalEphemera]

Leon Brittan finally named in Parliament, in a strange roundabout sort of way.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... abuse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting that the telegraph reported it.

I see his mates jumped to defend him.

[HindleA]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... ts-confirm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;