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Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 6:50 am
by refitman
Morning all.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 10:28 am
by gilsey
Good morning.
Sky last night
Is it just me or is it getting increasingly quiet here? I know I'm not a regular poster, especially during the day, but it certainly seems less active.
I'm guessing (and hoping) that everyone's feeling pretty much like me. Dulled by both lockdown and February. Yeah it's got a bit sunnier and warmer but it's still the fag end of a shitty winter that I want to be over.
I think there's a political aspect as well, we like to chat about Labour but who wants to talk about Starmer? Anyone
not disappointed?
You need some disagreement for a good discussion, there was no shortage of that with JC.
Like the pandemic and the winter, it's too depressing for words.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 10:50 am
by gilsey
From the G
Amid positive signs of falling death rates and rising immunity levels, ministers are reportedly preparing for a mass testing “blitz” with the aim of getting the country to “a new normal”.
According to the Times’ splash, NHS test and trace is readying for a nationwide “surge” testing programme, which would involve more than 400,000 rapid lateral flow tests being sent by post to homes and workplaces every day.
Unlike PPE and Test & Trace, we haven't heard much detail about the spend on mass testing, £100bn?, but this suggests to me that spaffer's doing what spaffer does and we'll get mass testing whether or not it's actually useful.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:07 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Its also that with the pandemic ongoing, "normal" politics is still largely suspended (and yes I *do* think that makes it harder for Starmer and Labour tbf)
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:24 pm
by citizenJA
Good afternoon, everyone.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:28 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Always nice to see you back from a break.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:29 pm
by citizenJA
Please excuse my absence.
I've been reading contemporary fiction in bed under multiple blankets.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:31 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
That's another thing, its not *quite* as cold now!
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 12:35 pm
by citizenJA
Sometimes it's difficult getting out of bed.
Sky wrote something about that here a day or two ago.
Thank you for updating me on news; I've read all of it today.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 1:14 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Always nice to see you back from a break.
Thank you, AK
It's a difficult time and sometimes I feel overwhelmed.
Mr. citizen and I are healthy and mostly happy.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 1:29 pm
by Willow904
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Its also that with the pandemic ongoing, "normal" politics is still largely suspended (and yes I *do* think that makes it harder for Starmer and Labour tbf)
There was a lot talk about with Cameron and the Coalition government, they were very busy with wide-sweeping reforms across the board. All Johnson's government has done so far is use the pandemic as cover for shovelling as much money to their cronies as conceivably possible, whilst otherwise doing all the unremarkable things as expected in such a situation plus deliver the hard Brexit as outlined by Theresa May in the laziest, most destructive and non-sophisticated way possible.
The proposed NHS reform is the first new idea really that isn't just completing what someone else started or responding to events. I'm hoping Labour will be active in flagging possible issues with it and properly challenge and explore its intentions and likely effects as so far it doesn't look like the media is going to.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 2:11 pm
by gilsey
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I *do* think that makes it harder for Starmer and Labour tbf)
Sure, but hiring Claire Ainsley won't make it easier.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 2:18 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Hmmm, there are actually people in his entourage who bother me more than her. She at least recognises a new economic "offer" is needed.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 2:20 pm
by gilsey
Not much help if it's the wrong one.
Name some names, I'm genuinely interested.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 2:22 pm
by gilsey
In the meantime, we can find some amusement in Raab's broom and Johnson's gloves.
Paul
@PaulOnBooks
I wasn't going to comment on Dominic Raab's broom but I think I should mention that this is a pic of something wooden, inflexible and of limited capabilities.
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Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 4:13 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:Not much help if it's the wrong one.
Name some names, I'm genuinely interested.
Well, the new Gen Sec is a definite wrong 'un I would say.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 5:26 pm
by citizenJA
Deaths within 28 days of positive test
738
Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Wednesday, 17 February 2021
7,820
Weekly number of deaths where COVID-19 is mentioned as a cause on the death certificate, registered during the week ending Friday, 5 February 2021
129,498
Total
Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate
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Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 5:36 pm
by gilsey
Indeed.
The Jewish Chronicle described Evans as a "staunch opponent of hard left politics" and a "fierce critic of anti-Zionism".
-Wikipedia
Ugh.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 5:52 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Well, "hard left" at least is in the eye of the beholder - so it doesn't help that his definition seems to be on the expansive side.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 7:35 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Good evening.
This is worth a read in advance of tomorrow's "Don't you dare rewrite history!" meeting that Dowden is forcing charity/cultural institution bosses to attend.
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This is why they criticised these activists for trying to ‘rewrite’ history, and argued that pulling down statues is not only destroying British heritage but also preventing people from learning about the past. The fact that historians rewrite history for a living, the fact that statues are not effective means of educating the public (and are designed to resist attempts at contextualisation) is irrelevant, because these arguments are not being made in good faith. Instead, they are intended to delegitimize the work of experts in the field and to monster the actions of activists who are, in fact, engaging with history as they should: in a nuanced and complex manner.
Re: Wednesday 17th February 2021
Posted: Wed 17 Feb, 2021 9:41 pm
by citizenJA
Good night, everyone.
love,
cJA