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Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 6:34 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:05 am
by refitman
So, SKS is semi-backing Cressida?

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:07 am
by citizenJA
Good morning, everyone.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:08 am
by gilsey
Good morning.


Interesting long thread on the 'bus revolution'.

https://twitter.com/thomasforth/status/ ... 0945366018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tl:dr
Trying to do it all at once, from the centre, for every part of England, with just £3bn? It all seems too much to me.

England's big cities have been wanting to do integrated transport for decades. They've tried and tried and UK laws stop them.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:11 am
by gilsey
refitman wrote:So, SKS is semi-backing Cressida?
I suppose he may know who the likely next incumbent is, maybe better the devil you know.
On her own merits, she shouldn't have got the job in the first place.

Don't think either SKS or Dick deserve the benefit of the doubt really.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:31 am
by citizenJA
gilsey wrote:Good morning.


Interesting long thread on the 'bus revolution'.

https://twitter.com/thomasforth/status/ ... 0945366018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tl:dr
Trying to do it all at once, from the centre, for every part of England, with just £3bn? It all seems too much to me.

England's big cities have been wanting to do integrated transport for decades. They've tried and tried and UK laws stop them.
it's done to protect the automotive industry

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 11:29 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Kit Malthouse says:
Cressida Dick is an officer of superlative achievement in her life and she has been close to some incredibly successful investigations. I know that she is very dedicated and committed to this issue of dealing with violence against women and girls in as assertive a way as we possibly can.
(Politics Live, Guardian)
Please show your workings. It might be helpful.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 12:04 pm
by citizenJA
Committee says government’s lack of sufficient explanation has placed needless strain on public confidence
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... covid-data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ministers must learn from government failures in handling and sharing data if they are to build the necessary long-term public consent to bring the Covid pandemic to an end, according to a highly critical report from MPs.
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In their report, the MPs say accountability for decisions and the data on which they are based must be clear to ensure the trust of the public. They call on Gove to respond to their criticisms, “clearly outlining his understanding of his responsibilities”.

Ministers sent in Gove’s place were poorly briefed and unable to answer the questions put to them, says the committee... .
Government transparency and accountability during Covid 19: The data underpinning decisions
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/c ... /80302.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The entire article is worth reading

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 12:09 pm
by citizenJA
Bad decisions made by government result in poorer living conditions in our community. Daily news scares the hell out of me. I often read books instead.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 12:23 pm
by citizenJA
When Boris Johnson had his first telephone call with President Biden, journalists were told that they bonded over their shared love of trains. This came as something of a surprise to those of us who have followed his career as a journalist or a politicians because, over 30 years, if he does have a secret passion for locomotives, he’s managed to keep it hidden quite successfully.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 686c6fa773" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:lol:

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 12:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:
refitman wrote:So, SKS is semi-backing Cressida?
I suppose he may know who the likely next incumbent is, maybe better the devil you know.
On her own merits, she shouldn't have got the job in the first place.

Don't think either SKS or Dick deserve the benefit of the doubt really.
There is the "its about more than just one person" argument which was effectively deployed (and I don't regularly say this) by Jess Phillips yesterday. And yes, also that there is no guarantee any Dick replacement will be better - don't forget who will have a key say in their appointment :shock:

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 1:52 pm
by gilsey
Phillips has her moments.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 1:55 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
And saying "lets wait for the report" is a very Starmerish thing to do.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 3:22 pm
by citizenJA
The Norman invasion of 1066
I've not gotten over it

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 4:27 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
"Its too early to tell".

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 6:16 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Good afternoon.

Ian Dunt is live tweeting the Bill - and already regretting it.

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1371467127711010816" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:02 pm
by gilsey
Nick Pettigrew
@Nick_Pettigrew
If Theresa May thinks your policing bill is needlessly draconian and authoritarian, it's possible you may have gone a bit too far.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:13 pm
by gilsey
Ian Dunt
@IanDunt
Replying to
@IanDunt
Tory MP Sarah Dines doing as she;s told by the whips and asking why Labour are opposing the bill given the sentencing for rape. This is clearly the attack line the Tories have settled on.
I haven't heard a Labour MP make the point that sentencing's pretty irrelevant when hardly anyone's being found guilty, and that's after it take 3-4 years to get to trial.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:34 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:Nick Pettigrew
@Nick_Pettigrew
If Theresa May thinks your policing bill is needlessly draconian and authoritarian, it's possible you may have gone a bit too far.
But she will, of course, vote for it.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:57 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:Nick Pettigrew
@Nick_Pettigrew
If Theresa May thinks your policing bill is needlessly draconian and authoritarian, it's possible you may have gone a bit too far.
But she will, of course, vote for it.
Yes.
She despises Johnson personally but she'll never do anything jeopardising Tory governments.
Without this solidarity, they'll fall.

Re: Monday 15th March 2021

Posted: Mon 15 Mar, 2021 10:59 pm
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA