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Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th November 2014

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Morning all.

The Mail are pumping up a story about Alex Salmond fighting Danny Alexander for his Westminster
seat.
Alex Salmond is being lined up for an explosive battle against Treasury chief Danny Alexander in next year's General Election.

Sources claim the outgoing SNP leader could launch an audacious bid to steal the LibDem minister's seat and claim a senior coalition 'scalp'.

The challenge would trigger a UK-wide media frenzy, force the LibDems to throw everything at the constituency :clap: and give Mr Salmond a chance to resurrect his political career after his defeat in the independence referendum.
The Independent mentions other seats he may go for.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 47856.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Having so often looked forward to Beaker being kicked out, the thought of that monstrous charlatan Alex Salmond winning the seat rather ruins things now.
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Morning all.

Just endured yet another lengthy Radio 4 piece on the doomed leadership of Ed Miliband ... despite a Labour MP who was stalwartly defending him and giving a pretty good explanation of what he's really finding on doorsteps and amongst his constituents etc.

When are the BBC going to shut up? Labour MPs are in a very difficult place aren't they - if they refuse to be interviewed it will be construed as whatever the media want and denies Labour an opportunity to present policies and a case for them - if they are interviewed all it is brought back to is Ed Miliband ...

I'm disgusted by the thought that it might actually be the BBC that heavily influences the outcome of the election this time around ... never mind Murdoch and co.
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yahyah wrote:Morning all.

The Mail are pumping up a story about Alex Salmond fighting Danny Alexander for his Westminster
seat.
Alex Salmond is being lined up for an explosive battle against Treasury chief Danny Alexander in next year's General Election.

Sources claim the outgoing SNP leader could launch an audacious bid to steal the LibDem minister's seat and claim a senior coalition 'scalp'.

The challenge would trigger a UK-wide media frenzy, force the LibDems to throw everything at the constituency :clap: and give Mr Salmond a chance to resurrect his political career after his defeat in the independence referendum.
The Independent mentions other seats he may go for.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 47856.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Having so often looked forward to Beaker being kicked out, the thought of that monstrous charlatan Alex Salmond winning the seat rather ruins things now.
Well - on the brighter side - I suppose it might tell us something i.e. that Salmond prefers to go up against a Lib Dem than Labour incumbent. I will be very glad if Beaker is no longer around to play a part in whatever kind of coalition the Lib Dems are dreaming of post May 2015. Morning yahyah. Still torrential rain here. Our floods made the BBC Wales news last night ... I think there are more to come sadly.
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Peter Jukes ‏@peterjukes 26m26 minutes ago
Under Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, it is illegal for a US registered company to bribe foreign officials. News Corp registered in Delaware

Peter Jukes ‏@peterjukes 27m27 minutes ago
As others have pointed out, NOTW now has two criminal convictions for conspiracy to commit misconduct in public office. US problems loom

Evenin' all (tips metaphorical tin-foil hat)

Did you see these as well? Dots being joined....

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and- ... d-the-nca/

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... stand.html

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and- ... ia-newton/


@yahyah: What was all that about the other year, breaking up/changing the name of New International to News Corp, News UK etc....a way of trying to legally worm their way out of trouble in the US ?

@TubbyIsaacs: That wouldn't work. But I guess it's probably very narrowly defined in the first place.

American companies must have people convicted all the time all over the world.



Morning all…had hoped to stick around last night after posting the above, but had an invasion of wine-drinking laughter generators ;)

The dots I mentioned weren't really to do with the FCA - although, there are reports of negotiations between Newcorpse and the Justice Department amounting to avoidance of action in return for a fine payment of in excess of $800m (the largest such 'deal' so far, is $100m)…

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... a-deal-doj

...not so sure the agreement will work now, though.

More to do with the false 'news' agenda we've been subjected to for the last 34 years, succinctly put (if a little grammatically tortured!) at the end of the bellingcat piece...
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Was upset to see Jo Brand join in the Miliband bashing last night when she chaired HIGNFY.
One of her gags was about Justine Miliband wearing an 'I'm with stupid' t shirt.

Also, they showed the pic of Ed dropping money into Rebecca State's cup and then Ian Hislop and the rest of them [not Paul Merton if my memory serves] repeated the 'he gave 2 pence' story.
Even the Mail admitted it was [from the girl's own report] 60 or 70 pence.

Also, Caroline Lucas made a snide comment about Ed.
Would like to see how she looks if photographed at an odd angle.
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Power to the people: a revolution in Britain’s energy market
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 47890.html
The energy market is poised for a revolution as councils and social housing landlords across the UK prepare to take on the Big Six providers by supplying their own electricity.

From Plymouth and London, to Nottingham, Bristol and Berwickshire, local authorities are working on plans to set themselves up as electricity and gas retailers, and promising to significantly undercut the traditional suppliers....
Good news. This should help with the energy market restructuring that Labour want to do whilst freezing the prices.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
yahyah wrote:Morning all.

The Mail are pumping up a story about Alex Salmond fighting Danny Alexander for his Westminster
seat.
Alex Salmond is being lined up for an explosive battle against Treasury chief Danny Alexander in next year's General Election.

Sources claim the outgoing SNP leader could launch an audacious bid to steal the LibDem minister's seat and claim a senior coalition 'scalp'.

The challenge would trigger a UK-wide media frenzy, force the LibDems to throw everything at the constituency :clap: and give Mr Salmond a chance to resurrect his political career after his defeat in the independence referendum.
The Independent mentions other seats he may go for.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 47856.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Having so often looked forward to Beaker being kicked out, the thought of that monstrous charlatan Alex Salmond winning the seat rather ruins things now.
Well - on the brighter side - I suppose it might tell us something i.e. that Salmond prefers to go up against a Lib Dem than Labour incumbent. I will be very glad if Beaker is no longer around to play a part in whatever kind of coalition the Lib Dems are dreaming of post May 2015. Morning yahyah. Still torrential rain here. Our floods made the BBC Wales news last night ... I think there are more to come sadly.
My view of Salmond has softened somewhat since the Referendum (not before - the whole media circus was not a thing of beauty :roll: ). He seems to have ignored Uncle Ruperts whinging about having 'extreme' Socialists and Greens in his 'Yes' camp, has indicated he would 'talk' to Labour (but not the real enemy) and, mostly, because of his passionate defence of the English NHS against the Ultra-Neo-Conmen on a QT panel. It seems he (and Mr Ed) are actual grown ups (I know Salmond is an ex-banker etc) and are prepared to do more than just snipe at each other.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
yahyah wrote:Morning all.

The Mail are pumping up a story about Alex Salmond fighting Danny Alexander for his Westminster
seat.
Alex Salmond is being lined up for an explosive battle against Treasury chief Danny Alexander in next year's General Election.

Sources claim the outgoing SNP leader could launch an audacious bid to steal the LibDem minister's seat and claim a senior coalition 'scalp'.

The challenge would trigger a UK-wide media frenzy, force the LibDems to throw everything at the constituency :clap: and give Mr Salmond a chance to resurrect his political career after his defeat in the independence referendum.

The Independent mentions other seats he may go for.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 47856.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Having so often looked forward to Beaker being kicked out, the thought of that monstrous charlatan Alex Salmond winning the seat rather ruins things now.
Well - on the brighter side - I suppose it might tell us something i.e. that Salmond prefers to go up against a Lib Dem than Labour incumbent. I will be very glad if Beaker is no longer around to play a part in whatever kind of coalition the Lib Dems are dreaming of post May 2015. Morning yahyah. Still torrential rain here. Our floods made the BBC Wales news last night ... I think there are more to come sadly.

I could easily see Salmond as foreign minister in a Labour/SNP coalition next May.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Power to the people: a revolution in Britain’s energy market
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 47890.html
The energy market is poised for a revolution as councils and social housing landlords across the UK prepare to take on the Big Six providers by supplying their own electricity.

From Plymouth and London, to Nottingham, Bristol and Berwickshire, local authorities are working on plans to set themselves up as electricity and gas retailers, and promising to significantly undercut the traditional suppliers....
Good news. This should help with the energy market restructuring that Labour want to do whilst freezing the prices.

That's been one of my ideas !
I contacted Plaid Cymru a couple of years ago to suggest they put it forward in Ceredigion where so many people rely on heating oil, to have some sort of mass bulk buying scheme, as well as for electricity.

Thanks for the link, hadn't spotted it during my quick browse earlier.
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"WCA waits will take 18 months to reduce"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29952335" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Was just reading Deborah Orr's latest piece about Baker/May and searched back to check what she was telling us back in 2010 as I remember she was a keen Lib Dem supporter.

Deborah Orr 27th April 2010 - ''The Lib Dems won't compromise for power'' :rofl:
''How Labour and Tories hate that they can't get Clegg and Cable to play ball just by sprinkling stardust in their eyes''

''...Yet Labour and the Conservatives, both of them up until now stalwart defenders of this system, reckon that they can sprinkle stardust in the eyes of the Lib Dems and suddenly turn them into people that would make all sorts of compromises just to achieve power.
But they can't. And how they hate it.''

She must feel a right twit now.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:Morning all.

Just endured yet another lengthy Radio 4 piece on the doomed leadership of Ed Miliband ... despite a Labour MP who was stalwartly defending him and giving a pretty good explanation of what he's really finding on doorsteps and amongst his constituents etc.

When are the BBC going to shut up? Labour MPs are in a very difficult place aren't they - if they refuse to be interviewed it will be construed as whatever the media want and denies Labour an opportunity to present policies and a case for them - if they are interviewed all it is brought back to is Ed Miliband ...

I'm disgusted by the thought that it might actually be the BBC that heavily influences the outcome of the election this time around ... never mind Murdoch and co.
Caught Tristam Hunt on Drive on the way home. He couldn't have been more supportive of Miliband despite the persistent attempts at the "Ed is in trouble" questioning.
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Morning all.
Grey and wet here,sort of a bake some shortbread and eat it warm day.
Had an email from M&S this morning,'be the first to view 'their Christmas ad.
When did we start having adverts for adverts?
Could ftn possibly tweet Jo Brand?Maybe Justine wears a tshirt saying'I'm with tall,dark,handsome,kind,clever and honest'.Wonder what Brands partners tshirt would say?
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TechnicalEphemera wrote: I could easily see Salmond as foreign minister in a Labour/SNP coalition next May.
I hope you're being ironic. :? The man who thinks he's right when the rest of the world tells him he's wrong? I would have thought that he's the last person to represent the UK anywhere. He appears to have a similar attitude to IDS - a belief in his own infallibility.
And don't forget that the Labour party declined a coalition with the SNP in Holyrood and left them with a minority government in 2007.
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A coalition between Labour/SNP, apart from anything else, runs into the problem that the Nats currently make a point of only voting on "Scottish" issues at Westminster.
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yahyah wrote:Was upset to see Jo Brand join in the Miliband bashing last night when she chaired HIGNFY.
One of her gags was about Justine Miliband wearing an 'I'm with stupid' t shirt.

Also, they showed the pic of Ed dropping money into Rebecca State's cup and then Ian Hislop and the rest of them [not Paul Merton if my memory serves] repeated the 'he gave 2 pence' story.
Even the Mail admitted it was [from the girl's own report] 60 or 70 pence.

Also, Caroline Lucas made a snide comment about Ed.
Would like to see how she looks if photographed at an odd angle.
The attacks on Ed Miliband for stopping to give money to a beggar are really winding me up. It's an act of compassion, but apparently if a photographer can manage to pick one photo out of 20 that makes you look a bit awkward as you turn away, it makes you a complete and utter failure and unsuitable to be a Prime Minister?

What should be the start of a debate, about why a young girl is reduced to begging on Britain's streets (despite our ridiculously generous benefits that we supposedly fritter away on all and sundry) is instead a sad reflection on a rabid right-wing press that has decided it doesn't want Ed Miliband Prime Minister but can't find anything to attack him for that doesn't expose their own self-interested motives. At this rate they'll be no newspapers I can safely read running up to the election without blowing a fuse. :(
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Who owns The Press?
Have just popped this up in Features and Analysis for future reference
(Afternoon all)

http://tomdlondon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/1 ... l?spref=tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re Maximus/ESA
They covered it briefly in the Today Programme from 51 minutes.


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Press Preview last night had a woman, Daisy Waugh, (@dldwaugh for anyone wanting to tweet her) who declared that Ed was unsuitable for PM because his face is "too rubbery" !!

Here is the image the ignorant woman chooses on her twitter profile:

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Sometimes people should take a look in the mirror before castigating others for their looks.
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Mr Hunt meets his named GP

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http://www.theguardian.com/public-leade ... pensioners" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Flagship Government mutual holds up payments to pensioners"
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BBC rigging the election? A phone call to the BBC’s Ric Bailey….

By Ranjan Kumaran – @financialeyes

Last Friday, 31st October, a BBC Radio programme called Feedback asked why the BBC agreed to exclude the Green Party from the General Election TV debates. (12 Minutes)
http://realfare.wordpress.com/2014/11/0 ... ic-bailey/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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yahyah wrote:Was upset to see Jo Brand join in the Miliband bashing last night when she chaired HIGNFY.
One of her gags was about Justine Miliband wearing an 'I'm with stupid' t shirt.

Also, they showed the pic of Ed dropping money into Rebecca State's cup and then Ian Hislop and the rest of them [not Paul Merton if my memory serves] repeated the 'he gave 2 pence' story.
Even the Mail admitted it was [from the girl's own report] 60 or 70 pence.

Also, Caroline Lucas made a snide comment about Ed.
Would like to see how she looks if photographed at an odd angle.
Thought it was a bit more restrained when compared to recent weeks to be fair. Sure, we had the obligatory 'awkward' photo and Hislop's face lit up as he thought it was stick the boot in time; but I thought Lucas defended Ed quite well (I'm being charitable and assuming her "Ed can't win" comment was a slip, rather than deliberate) and, while Brand did make that joke, it was at the end of a long piece in which they had comprehensively demolished the Mail on Sundays smear campaign - as it is known she is Labour leaning (she has appeared on "Stand Up For Labour" stages more than once) she probably felt the need to throw in that joke to avoid accusations of partisanship. Merton, poor sod, looks increasingly embarrassed by these attacks and tends to remain silent, to his credit.
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"Kind, not-air-brushed-looking, unbelievably-resilient bloke gives beggar change available in pocket" scoop.

Indeed. When you see the purportedly intelligent going with the MSM flow on Ed it's pretty depressing. I know I harp on about the same things, but the BBC's inability to recruit new or actual talent from Britain's working population is pathetic. If I see Dan Snow, the blonde woman with the curly hair who once did wildlife gardening and now does everything, or that scottish narcissist with the ridiculous hair off Coast on anything else - at all - I'm going to LOSE MY MIND.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:"Kind, not-air-brushed-looking, unbelievably-resilient bloke gives beggar change available in pocket" scoop.

Indeed. When you see the purportedly intelligent going with the MSM flow on Ed it's pretty depressing. I know I harp on about the same things, but the BBC's inability to recruit new or actual talent from Britain's working population is pathetic. If I see Dan Snow, the blonde woman with the curly hair who once did wildlife gardening and now does everything, or that scottish narcissist with the ridiculous hair off Coast on anything else - at all - I'm going to LOSE MY MIND.
Is Neil Oliver still around? Personally I think the BBC's history output has improved of late, with the likes of Helen Castor, Mary Beard and (especially) Janina Ramirez giving us some great programming; Janina's recent programme on English Gothic architecture was a real highlight. And I have to admit to a soft spot for Lucy Worsley, always so joyfully enthusiastic; I'm quite looking forward to the upcoming series on dance crazes she has made with Len Goodman; an unlikely partnership but, somehow, you just know it will work! :dance:
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Miliband is an excellent leader, and here’s why
http://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/1 ... heres-why/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Long and good, scroll to end for list of Labour proposed policies.
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HindleA wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/public-leade ... pensioners

"Flagship Government mutual holds up payments to pensioners"
I believe I mentioned my own run-in with them the other day. I can confirm, categorically, that they are absolute crap. And the person to whom I was speaking was charmless crap, to boot.
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Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 3h3 hours ago
Must read piece by the Guardian's Patrick Wintour on what's happening within LAB. http://po.st/pG41f1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I wonder if Mike will reply to my question, as to why another piece of Wintour fiction is a "must read". They really are determined to keep this pot bubbling, despite the absence of any meaningful heat. :smack:
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Twitter storm tonight at 6pm if anyone around then
Couple of good Ed photographs are planned to be used -(I'll see if I can find them)
for love of foxes ‏@AgainstHunting · 11s11 seconds ago
To all of U who R sick of tory lies & propaganda against Ed Miliband, please Rt RT RT Tweetstorm tonight Hashtag #webackEd Starts 6pm 2nite

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TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Is Neil Oliver still around? Personally I think the BBC's history output has improved of late, with the likes of Helen Castor, Mary Beard and (especially) Janina Ramirez giving us some great programming; Janina's recent programme on English Gothic architecture was a real highlight. And I have to admit to a soft spot for Lucy Worsley, always so joyfully enthusiastic; I'm quite looking forward to the upcoming series on dance crazes she has made with Len Goodman; an unlikely partnership but, somehow, you just know it will work! :dance:
Oliver - sadly, yes.

Helen Castor - Cambridge
Mary Beard - Cambridge
Janina Ramirez - Oxford
Lucy Worsley (in the kind of face you'd never tire of kicking category for me I'm afraid) - Oxford

BBC predictably Oxbridge tedium at its absolute best.
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Lord Howell [Osborne's father in law] plots with fracking firms in Windsor dungeon

http://www.corporatewatch.org/news/2013 ... or-dungeon
It's known Osborne wants to lead the Cons and be PM. Just think of the individual power he would have if they get in.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Is Neil Oliver still around? Personally I think the BBC's history output has improved of late, with the likes of Helen Castor, Mary Beard and (especially) Janina Ramirez giving us some great programming; Janina's recent programme on English Gothic architecture was a real highlight. And I have to admit to a soft spot for Lucy Worsley, always so joyfully enthusiastic; I'm quite looking forward to the upcoming series on dance crazes she has made with Len Goodman; an unlikely partnership but, somehow, you just know it will work! :dance:
Oliver - sadly, yes.

Helen Castor - Cambridge
Mary Beard - Cambridge
Janina Ramirez - Oxford
Lucy Worsley (in the kind of face you'd never tire of kicking category for me I'm afraid) - Oxford

BBC predictably Oxbridge tedium at its absolute best.
Ah well, that told me. Excuse me, I'll be off being tedious for a while. ;-)
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NHS England has awarded security giant G4S a series of multi-million pound healthcare contracts to run medical facilities at four detention centres where men, women and children are held pending deportation, Corporate Watch has found.

The seven-year contracts, worth £23.4m, were awarded in June 2014 and became operational on 1 September. As a result, G4S has now taken over the healthcare services at Yarl's Wood Immigration Removal Centre (IRC) in Bedfordshire, which were previously provided by outsourcing rival Serco.

http://www.corporatewatch.org/news/2014 ... e-migrants
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Sheffield students: we can kick Clegg out of power
Breaking his tuition fees pledge could cost Nick Clegg his seat – if Sheffield Hallam students rally against him at the polls

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Grim - is not you, clearly, that I find tedious. It is the fact that we (as a nation, not you and I personally) are complicit in perpetuating the elitist version of the country that is so failing it now. Journalism, education, broadcasting, politics, music, law, diplomacy - all dominated by Oxbridge. We seem to accept and agree that none of the rest of us can do this stuff. I tend to disagree.

I have to either find it tedious or else risk a Scanners (in the 80's sci fi horror sense of the word scanners) moment.
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pk1 wrote:Press Preview last night had a woman, Daisy Waugh, (@dldwaugh for anyone wanting to tweet her) who declared that Ed was unsuitable for PM because his face is "too rubbery" !!

Here is the image the ignorant woman chooses on her twitter profile:

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Sometimes people should take a look in the mirror before castigating others for their looks.
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Auberon Waugh

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8 November 2014, 9.04am GMT
Voter survey shows Miliband panic is overblown

http://theconversation.com/voter-survey ... lown-33975
Interesting.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Grim - is not you, clearly, that I find tedious. It is the fact that we (as a nation, not you and I personally) are complicit in perpetuating the elitist version of the country that is so failing it now. Journalism, education, broadcasting, politics, music, law, diplomacy - all dominated by Oxbridge. We seem to accept and agree that none of the rest of us can do this stuff. I tend to disagree.

I have to either find it tedious or else risk a Scanners (in the 80's sci fi horror sense of the word scanners) moment.
Got that, was just yanking your chain a little. :-)

I suspect that some things, by their nature, will be dominated by academia for valid reasons; history programming, for example, needs people who know their stuff, who have the time to do the digging .... literally, in some cases. Discovery have dabbled with non-academic history presenters with varying degrees of success; Mark Williams' various programmes on the Industrial Revolution worked because of his engineering background and general enthusiasm, the (taxi driver and history guide) Harry Harris' series just made me cringe. and as for Channel 4 bringing a comedian for their Richard III dig programme, don't get me started .....
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http://theconversation.com/with-by-elec ... -sdp-32910

With by-election success and TV debates, it all looks rosy for UKIP – but remember the SDP
Also interesting !
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Oh - excuse me. I neglected to say -

Good afternoon.
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AngryAsWell wrote:
pk1 wrote:Press Preview last night had a woman, Daisy Waugh, (@dldwaugh for anyone wanting to tweet her) who declared that Ed was unsuitable for PM because his face is "too rubbery" !!

Here is the image the ignorant woman chooses on her twitter profile:

Image

Sometimes people should take a look in the mirror before castigating others for their looks.
Oh look who was her Daddy...

Auberon Waugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auberon_Waugh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting choice of word - "rubbery". Brings to mind the old racist slur of black people having "rubbery lips". But I'm sure that's just me jumping to conclusions.
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Diane Abbott going down well on Any Questions from Devon.
Giggles from the audience at Douglas Carswell's rubbish.
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''Police ‘covered up’ links with union blacklisting
Leaked minutes show senior officer met group targeting union activists''

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Oh dear, a whining Douglas Carswell complaining that it is 'three against one' on Any Questions.
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Band of whingeing rightwingers told to ’do some work’
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-ed ... F4ch0ByaUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
..and I just tweeted Danczuk to back the #webackEd storm tonight ! :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol:
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Good afternoon folks,
I was out for a walk on the beach today (bright & cold) and popped into a cafe in Amble. I got chatting to the waitress, an articulate, enthusiastic and very professional young woman. She told me that she has a degree from Newcastle in Computing/Business, and that this week she will reach her 1000th job application. How she manages to remain so positive, I cannot imagine.
There will be thousands like her throughout the country, a generation sold down the river by the coalition. We have to get rid of this shitty government.
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AngryAsWell wrote:Twitter storm tonight at 6pm if anyone around then
Couple of good Ed photographs are planned to be used -(I'll see if I can find them)
for love of foxes ‏@AgainstHunting · 11s11 seconds ago
To all of U who R sick of tory lies & propaganda against Ed Miliband, please Rt RT RT Tweetstorm tonight Hashtag #webackEd Starts 6pm 2nite

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I'm not a "Twitterer". Is there anything I can do (apart from join Twitter which a) I'd prefer not to do and b) the chances of my mastering the art of "Twittering" by the appointed time is next to zero, even if I did join).
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RobertSnozers wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Grim - is not you, clearly, that I find tedious. It is the fact that we (as a nation, not you and I personally) are complicit in perpetuating the elitist version of the country that is so failing it now. Journalism, education, broadcasting, politics, music, law, diplomacy - all dominated by Oxbridge. We seem to accept and agree that none of the rest of us can do this stuff. I tend to disagree.

I have to either find it tedious or else risk a Scanners (in the 80's sci fi horror sense of the word scanners) moment.
Got that, was just yanking your chain a little. :-)

I suspect that some things, by their nature, will be dominated by academia for valid reasons; history programming, for example, needs people who know their stuff, who have the time to do the digging .... literally, in some cases. Discovery have dabbled with non-academic history presenters with varying degrees of success; Mark Williams' various programmes on the Industrial Revolution worked because of his engineering background and general enthusiasm, the (taxi driver and history guide) Harry Harris' series just made me cringe. and as for Channel 4 bringing a comedian for their Richard III dig programme, don't get me started .....
Since when did Academia have to = Oxbridge?

And don't give me that toss about Oxbridge automatically being the best. It's more than half full of public-school educated students who've had years of preparation for the application process and colleges so risk-averse that it's a major leap for them to take students from schools that haven't sent anyone to Oxbridge before. There are other universities than Oxbridge, and some of them are actually rather good.

Disclosure. I failed to get into Cambridge. I then got a 1st from the University of Kent at Canterbury, and won funding for a research Masters, which I was awarded after being examined by two of the country's most prominent scholars in that field. So it rather depends on whether you regard that as a legitimate argument or the rantings of someone with a chip on their shoulder.
I'm not going to say Oxbridge is automatically the best, surprised you thought I would. And, yes, there are other very good universities around the country; York, for example, where Janina Ramirez got her doctorate! ;-)

You're spot on in your suggestion that the BBC are over reliant on Oxbridge talent in this area, but that doesn't mean that they aren't any good; I never tire of Schama's History of Britain, Tom Holland's Untold Story wasn't afraid to rattle cages and (yes, I know I keep banging on about her) Ramirez is always illuminating. And they don't have a total monopoly, Cruickshank (for example) isn't Oxbridge afaik, but he is a specialist in his field; interestingly I think virtually none of the Time Teamers, bar Francis Pryor (who I have net a few times & always found him to be a pleasant bloke), were Oxbridge.

The reassuring trend is away from a totally male dominated field, with the influx of these very talented ladies; at the very least it is keeping Dame Starkey off the screen.
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