Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th May 2021

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 8:23 am

Morning all.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am

Apologies for the site not being accessible for a bit. I started the newest upgrade and then had to help a friend move house.

But look, avatars are back.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:27 am

Ah, normality slowly returns.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:31 am

refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am Apologies for the site not being accessible for a bit. I started the newest upgrade and then had to help a friend move house.

But look, avatars are back.

Thanks!

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:32 am

(Getting used to the new look - takes me a while).

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:12 am

Good morning.

I see that London, looking at the "Reform Party - London deserves better" candidates, decided that London deserves better than them and gave them all about 2-3% as far as I can see so far.

Richard Tice has been awfully quiet...

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:14 am

refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am Apologies for the site not being accessible for a bit. I started the newest upgrade and then had to help a friend move house.

But look, avatars are back.

Any chance of a thanks/like button?

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:33 am

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:32 am (Getting used to the new look - takes me a while).

The previous style isn't compatible with the new version of phpBB. I am still looking for something similar though.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:35 am

gilsey wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 11:14 am
refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am Apologies for the site not being accessible for a bit. I started the newest upgrade and then had to help a friend move house.

But look, avatars are back.
Any chance of a thanks/like button?

Work in progress - the old mod is no longer compatible and I can't install a new one until it's removed - however I can't remove it, because it isn't compatible(!).

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:41 am

"We're not the Tories" maybe isn't the greatest platform. Actually offering something to voters might help persuade them.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:52 am

refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am

But look, avatars are back.

Thank you - I have a new one - took a bit of doing though

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 11:58 am

So he's written for Policy Exchange about this and now the Spectator. How does he think this helps?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:05 pm

refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 11:33 am
tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:32 am (Getting used to the new look - takes me a while).
The previous style isn't compatible with the new version of phpBB. I am still looking for something similar though.

Don't worry am adjusting quietly.
Just like i have to goretex.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:08 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 11:52 am
refitman wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 10:19 am

But look, avatars are back.
Thank you - I have a new one - took a bit of doing though

v nice. v secret agent RoT.

Can people see my avatar (I can) or do i need to do something?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:11 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 12:08 pm
Can people see my avatar (I can) or do i need to do something?

It looks fine to me.

I think my old one didn't load as it was too wide, too high, and file size too big.

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:24 pm

Thanks for all your hard work so far refitman.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:28 pm

GetYou wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 12:24 pm Thanks for all your hard work so far refitman.

agreed!

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:29 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 12:11 pm
tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 12:08 pm
Can people see my avatar (I can) or do i need to do something?
It looks fine to me.

I think my old one didn't load as it was too wide, too high, and file size too big.

Did you see the whole of the moon?

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 12:53 pm

*blushes*

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 1:00 pm

Lozza is currently running at 2% right now with 7 areas complete and 7 to go.

Khan 40%
Bailey 36%

But the remainder are fairly solidly for Khan with big majorities.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 1:29 pm

Woo hoo. That's better.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 2:40 pm

Despite voting for her I'm kinda hoping Tracy Brabin doesn't win the West Yorkshire mayoral election. It would trigger a by-election in Batley, and given the way things are looking at the moment that's the last thing Labour needs.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 3:25 pm

Its not Hartlepool, though.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 3:44 pm

Oh my.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 08 May, 2021 3:55 pm

How will Fox have time for that, when he's mayor.....oh.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 4:20 pm

Good.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 08 May, 2021 4:38 pm

Good morfternoon.

Labour wins West of England Mayorality.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 4:47 pm

Labour hold Leeds. Lost one to the Conservatives and one to Independents, a few results to go but not enough for them to lose control of the council.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 08 May, 2021 4:54 pm

Well. I did say there were hopes Dan Norris would do well in the West of England mayoralty but I didn't really think he'd do it. Perhaps the previous Tory mayor doing bugger all to the point Boris Johnson couldn't name him in a tv interview was a factor.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 5:16 pm

I wonder how long our 'free speech' would last if we turned up at Tice and Fox's pub? It would be an interesting experiment after 8 pints.

As for right wing comedy, my brother's girlfriend's sister (bear with me) told me last weekend that she used to work in a club in Rhyll in the 90's. Roy Chubby Brown performed one night and there was a small section of the audience booing and heckling him throughout. After it was over his minders waited outside, dragged some of them off as they were leaving, and gave them a beating. Men and women alike so ironically it would appear Roy's heavies had no time for sex discrimination.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 5:45 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 4:20 pm Good.

With 67 per cent on the first ballot!!

Meanwhile, looks almost certain that Labour have won the Cambridgeshire/Peterborough mayoralty.

Pretty much a reverse Hartlepool if it happens

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 5:50 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 3:25 pm Its not Hartlepool, though.

Brabin only has a 3,500 majority in Batley and Spen. Take the Brexit Party out of the equation and the Tories could easily win it, all they'd have to do was siphon off a few votes from the 'Heavy Woollen District Independents' who are basically Ukip under a different name. If there is a by-election I wouldn't fancy Labour's chances under the present circumstances.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 6:11 pm

A reverse Hartlepool.
I like the sound of it.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 08 May, 2021 6:11 pm

(sorry Hartlepool but you've only got yourselves to blame. again).

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 7:38 pm

Go home Keir, you're drunk.

(and if the rumours about sacking/demoting Nandy are also true.......)

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 7:42 pm

So Angela Rayner's been made the scapegoat. Didn't Starmer say he would take full responsibility?

It's hardly Rayner's fault Labour had no policies, and it's pretty difficult to campaign without them.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 8:06 pm

The timing of that is just appalling.

I would imagine Sadiq Khan is none too happy about the way that was done just before his result is announced.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 08 May, 2021 8:14 pm

Succinct.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 08 May, 2021 8:31 pm

Nooooo

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 8:53 pm

Now being spun that Rayner isn't being "sacked" at all.

Whether instantly going down like a cup of cold sick with almost everybody is a reason for this "clarification", I could not possibly speculate

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:02 pm

Lewis is spot on.

Labour needs to heal its divisions or split. Of course I voted Labour, but with a very heavy heart.

(Though I think Tracy Brabin will be a good mayor if elected)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:14 pm

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:21 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 6:11 pm A reverse Hartlepool.
I like the sound of it.

Loopeltrah?

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:26 pm

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2 ... lture-wars

The Tories’ Hartlepool triumph owes more to cash than culture wars

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:46 pm

Why demote Jonathan Ashworth (if that's what's going to happen)? Presumably he was following instructions when he didn't challenge the Conservatives on anything. It sends out the wrong message when Labour is saying that they're behind the Conservatives re the handling of Covid but not their own Shadow Secretary of State. Matt Hancock is ok but our Shadow Secretary of State was crap? It's rather a slap round the face with a wet halibut for him. Get rid of him later - fine - I'm no fan. But now? It doesn't even look good.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:55 pm

And what, pray tell, would Lisa Nandy have done to deserve a demotion?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 08 May, 2021 9:58 pm

I suspect both Nandy and Rayner are close to Burnham.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:04 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sat 08 May, 2021 7:38 pm Go home Keir, you're drunk.

I would just like to object to this flagrant example of drunkism.

Some of us do our best work while drunk and I'm strongly of the opinion that if Keir Starmer spent more of his time drunk then the Labour Party wouldn't have found itself in this predicament.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:11 pm

@PaulfromYorkshire

I suspect an Andy Burnham link being behind it, but for Lisa Nandy not Angela Rayner.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 08 May, 2021 10:11 pm

And now, Deborah Mattinson??

Truly we are being spoiled beyond compare

[PTO]