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Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 7:01 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 11:58 am
by AnatolyKasparov
Good morefternoon, all.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 1:35 pm
by Willow904
From the G live blog:
At the Labour conference last week a strategist who helped to mastermind the New Zealand Labour party’s landslide win last year said that “relentless positivity” was at the heart of Jacinda Ahern’s electoral success. It is a message that the Labour party (which often sounds like the friend you meet for a drink from time to time who spends the whole night moaning) has yet to absorb. But it helps to explain how Boris Johnson became prime minister, and Rishi Sunak has finally got the memo too.
Similar to what I was saying recently. Constantly talking about what you won't do (such as rejoin the single market) is just so negative and depressing and not what anyone wants to hear, even those who such statements are aimed at, as they clearly prefer wildly optimistic waffle about "sunlit uplands".

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:00 pm
by Willow904
So what was Sunak's "optimistic" message?:
he has dialled up the rhetoric, and today he set out a vision for how the UK could become “the most exciting place on the planet”
Actually he said "in the planet", rather than on, which conjured up an image of the entire island plummeting Jules Verne style to the centre of the earth.

Which I guess would be quite exciting, if rather terrifying.

Speaking of terrifying, the smash hit Korean show Squid Game that's topping the most watched charts on Netflix pretty much worldwide at the moment is a little hint, I think, that Britain's place in a rapidly changing world is going to be far lower and far less exciting than our Tory leaders care to imagine. Our backward looking introspection and lack of critical social commentary is very quickly turning us into a country that has little to say that's of interest to anyone outside of our own little bubble.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:13 pm
by PorFavor
@gilsey
So what was Sunak's "optimistic" message?:

he has dialled up the rhetoric, and today he set out a vision for how the UK could become “the most exciting place on the planet”

Actually he said "in the planet", rather than on, which conjured up an image of the entire island plummeting Jules Verne style to the centre of the earth.
Yes, that's what I thought too - with a bit of hellfire and brimstone thrown in just to liven things up a bit.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:20 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:00 pm So what was Sunak's "optimistic" message?:
he has dialled up the rhetoric, and today he set out a vision for how the UK could become “the most exciting place on the planet”
Actually he said "in the planet", rather than on, which conjured up an image of the entire island plummeting Jules Verne style to the centre of the earth.

Which I guess would be quite exciting, if rather terrifying.

Speaking of terrifying, the smash hit Korean show Squid Game that's topping the most watched charts on Netflix pretty much worldwide at the moment is a little hint, I think, that Britain's place in a rapidly changing world is going to be far lower and far less exciting than our Tory leaders care to imagine. Our backward looking introspection and lack of critical social commentary is very quickly turning us into a country that has little to say that's of interest to anyone outside of our own little bubble.
I expect more and more pieces like that recent NYT one to appear in the foreign press in the near future.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:42 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Good afternoon.

As gigs go, the one to make your heart sink must surely be this one...



Sam Freedman pointed out that either Dorries doesn't know what nepotism means or forgot that she employed both daughters at public expense...

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:53 pm
by RogerOThornhill
This is a good point. Labour could get stuck in just opposing Tory policies rather than pointing out what more could be done. They could also point out the reality of what is happening in London...


Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 3:43 pm
by RogerOThornhill
You'd never have guessed that Jake Berry has interest in commercial property from this embarrassingly lame 'joke'...


Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 4:16 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
I mean, "former minister" is probably revealing a lot there given how awful many of those still on the government front benches are.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 6:16 pm
by gilsey
RogerOThornhill wrote: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 2:53 pm This is a good point. Labour could get stuck in just opposing Tory policies rather than pointing out what more could be done. They could also point out the reality of what is happening in London...
Will the govt actually put some money into local govt though, without that it's just Cameron's 'Big Society' all over again, isn't it?

Tories might be thinking and talking but that's usually as far as it goes.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 8:17 pm
by tinyclanger2
Culture secretary says corporation full of people ‘whose mum and dad worked there’
Sadly she's right.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 8:22 pm
by tinyclanger2
The British Broadcasting Corporation that is.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 9:16 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Yes, some things are true even when etc etc.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 9:24 pm
by refitman

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 9:25 pm
by tinyclanger2
Is anyone having fun?
It's about time.

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 10:33 pm
by gilsey

Re: Monday 4th October 2021

Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2021 11:30 pm
by refitman