Saturday 23rd & Sunday 24th October 2021

Post by **refitman** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 8:47 am

Morning all.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 10:58 am

Good morning.

Daughter home for the weekend but now gone out, wife is upstairs having a nap.

And me, I'm reading a thread about a UK - Japan trade deal that was supposed to be so much better than the EU equivalent.

Now read on...

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 11:44 am

Good morning, everyone.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 11:50 am

I'm glad you're all here.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 11:52 am

We are glad you are here, too.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 11:57 am

Mr. citizen just brought home chocolate.
Please help yourselves.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 12:17 pm

Many people in my community don't make the connection between bad policies adversely affecting their lives and the government in power.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 1:42 pm

Hello JA, have a cartoon !

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 1:46 pm

Hello all!

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 3:24 pm

Watched the new Dune film last night that the Guardian's been raving about. Meh. The best thing about it are the space bagpipes. Much like Blade Runner 2049 (same director) it looks nice but the pacing is a total mess and the characters are so unnuterably bland that it's difficult to care what happens to any of them. Lynch's version might be an insane mess but at least it's entertaining, this new one's just boring, even the set and ship designs are dull. If I could sum it up in one word it would be 'beige' and that's not just because of all the sand.

Anyway nice to see CJA making an appearance and now I'm off to Tesco to buy some cardboard vegetables.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 3:39 pm

Norwich City - the most pointless team in Premiership history?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 4:50 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/ ... -lockdowns
Hostility towards customer-facing staff has continued even though we’re out of lockdown,” said ICS chief executive Jo Causon. “Around half of employees don’t report hostility because they don’t think it will make any difference. They don’t think the police will act, and they feel it is part of their job to receive abuse.”

I feel a bit distressed about this general increase in appalling/antisocial behaviour. Is there something tangible one can do?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 4:51 pm

The NHS has also been affected. GPs and receptionists warned this month that many are quitting over abuse from patients, while NHS trusts are concerned that many A&E staff are considering moving to less stressful roles because of hostility.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 5:29 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 23 Oct, 2021 4:50 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/ ... -lockdowns
Hostility towards customer-facing staff has continued even though we’re out of lockdown,” said ICS chief executive Jo Causon. “Around half of employees don’t report hostility because they don’t think it will make any difference. They don’t think the police will act, and they feel it is part of their job to receive abuse.”
I feel a bit distressed about this general increase in appalling/antisocial behaviour. Is there something tangible one can do?

Not indulge in it yourself, and encourage others not to as much as you can.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 5:44 pm

I guess it's the manifestation of the glorious amalgamation of decades of (mean) reality tv, a rampant culture of individualism, a right-wing oriented social media https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ws-outlets and the BBC having approached "balanced" as meaning that "all views are equal, regardless of the actual body of evidence supporting said views".

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 6:51 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -emissions
Chair of the UK’s Climate Change Committee condemns New Zealand and Australia agreements as unworkable

UK under last eleven years of government = aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thanks Nick.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 7:44 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 23 Oct, 2021 6:51 pm
Chair of the UK’s Climate Change Committee condemns New Zealand and Australia agreements as unworkable
UK under last eleven years of government = aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thanks Nick.

Had to look him up, John Selwyn Gummer of the ((Mad Cow episode )) hamburger to 4yo Cordelia, and gardening expenses fame ! Probably other negative stuff too, but no complaints on his crits of the current Management.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 7:45 pm

Saw this one early, the replies are fun

Perfume Addict is South of me, same rules as here, same sticking to them. Same wonderment that Plague Island hasn't been red-listed .

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 8:12 pm

Am intrigued at the way total ignorance has become something people appear to be proud of.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 8:13 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sat 23 Oct, 2021 4:50 pm I feel a bit distressed about this general increase in appalling/antisocial behaviour. Is there something tangible one can do?

I'm always a bit sceptical about claims that the public have suddenly become arseholes. They've always been arseholes. I worked on the tills in the Co-op in the late Eighties and had to deal with arseholes all the time. We'd have groups of what would later be called chavs coming in trying to steal booze and when we kicked them out we'd get punched, spat on and bricks through the windows. Ordinary customers were routinely rude, stupid and unpleasant. I worked there through 6'th form, so 16 to 18 and it was the beginning of my long descent from youthful idealism to cynical misanthropy.

Unfortunately the sad truth is a significant minority of humans are arseholes. They always have been and always will be. All any society can do is attempt to mitigate for it. You can try harsher measures as Blair did with ASBOs, but as your post suggests it doesn't seem to have solved the problem.

The only way to deal with it effectively would be to selectively breed humans to become more convivial and empathetic, or identify the genes associated with whatever traits we desire and begin genetically manipulating foetuses en masse. However I can't imagine either of those would go down very well (and rightly so).

As AK said above I think the best we can do is try not to be arseholes ourselves. Which I have to admit can be a bit difficult at times.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 8:21 pm

I would actually find it reassuring to think it's not a recent thing (just that I'm noticing it more).
We need more Sewing Bee and Great Yorkshire Workshop.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 10:54 pm

Anyone else been watching Paris Police 1900 on BBC4? It's really good. Grim, violent, racist, it certainly doesn't portray La Belle Epoch in a good light. I love it.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sat 23 Oct, 2021 11:11 pm

Apart from the actor playing the young detective. His acting talents appear to be restricted to a single facial expression. Which is one of being in mild to moderate pain, likely of a gastric origin, probably trapped wind.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:08 am

Oh, here we go.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ovid-rules
New evidence has emerged that the government is paving the way to implement “plan B” measures in England to combat the spread of Covid-19, amid warnings from health chiefs that a “vortex of pressures” is encircling the NHS.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 8:01 am

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:08 am Oh, here we go.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ovid-rules
New evidence has emerged that the government is paving the way to implement “plan B” measures in England to combat the spread of Covid-19, amid warnings from health chiefs that a “vortex of pressures” is encircling the NHS.

Here's my evidence --
” The prime minister was wearing a face mask when he made the comments on a visit to a vaccine centre in London on Friday. ”
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 73573a917a

Looks like the reality penny has finally landed in Bozo’s brain.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 8:50 am

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 9:43 am

Watching recording of this week's gardeners' world and discovered Puzzlewood (Forest of Dean). It looks amazing - is it?
Not enough Patti as ever.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:14 am

Am starting to think IKEA's got a lot to answer for.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:15 am

And Rick Stein.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:32 am

Returning briefly back to covid:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -to-thrive
With Covid cases rising, the effectiveness of the government’s plan A – relying on vaccination to allow society to function without restraint – appears to be waning fast. Ministers are now under enormous pressure to adopt some of the measures it outlined in its plan B – compulsory masks, vaccine passports for crowded indoor settings such as nightclubs, and encouraging people to work from home.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:53 am

Working from home is good again now?

Its getting hard to keep up.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 11:14 am

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:15 am And Rick Stein.

I've found the Polish Rick Stein. People have done....odd things to his videos

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 12:09 pm

I'd love to see the Rick Stein equivalent.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 12:19 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:15 am And Rick Stein.

Why, what has he done?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 3:28 pm

Padstow.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 4:21 pm

Ah yes, not everybody is a fan of what he has done there.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:06 pm

Good evening.

There's been a lot of Tory MPs and raw sewage around today...and one of the worst of them decided to reply.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:24 pm

I've been racking my brains trying to think of something funny to say about that Man Utd performance but the comedy they provided on the pitch was so sublime I couldnt possibly follow it.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:38 pm

https://image.zmenu.com/menupic/2519007 ... cedd09.jpg
Padstow proper chippy Chip Ahoy.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 8:10 pm

Thanks Roger, dear oh dear.

Here it is in all its original glory.

I've scrolled down pretty far and I have to say if Dave got so upset about the original tweet he's going to be apoplectic when he reads the responses.

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 9:31 pm

Compare the Chilean minister of culture with ...

NADINE DORRIES !

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 9:54 pm

Hardly a fair comparison, Consuelo Valdés Chadwick is an actual archeologist, whereas Nadine Dorries thinks archeology is the study of arches.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 10:17 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Oct, 2021 7:38 pm https://image.zmenu.com/menupic/2519007 ... cedd09.jpg
Padstow proper chippy Chip Ahoy.

Where's the haggis? Where's the smokey?

To be honest that looks pretty expensive to me, there's no way I'm paying a fiver for a bit of fried fish so my first thought would be the saveloy. However saveloys can be dodgy so I'd probably err on the side of caution and go jumbo sausage. It would depend on how much it resembled a horse's willy.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Sun 24 Oct, 2021 11:05 pm

Manchester United’s Ole Gunnar Solskjær calls 5-0 thrashing ‘darkest day’

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... arkest-day

“I have come too far, we have come too far as a group. We are too close to give up now.” The Norwegian said he would not consider resigning. “I do believe in myself, I do believe that I am getting close to what I want with the club, what we’ve done, what I’ve seen, the development, true the results lately haven’t been good enough, it’s hands up and that brings doubt in anyone’s mind probably, but I’ve got to keep strong and believe in what we’re doing."

Comical Ole.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 12:23 am

I think of him as Polly Wolly Doodle (not that I often have cause to think about him at all except when his face crops up on the news).

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 12:33 am

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 12:33 am

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 12:42 am

Don't call me Shirley.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 12:57 am

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Mon 25 Oct, 2021 1:07 am