Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 9:20 am
Morning all.
An early megathread, how nice.
(and another for the 27th and 28th since they are both bank hoidays)
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Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 10:07 am
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 11:32 am
Hi AK I know it’s out of scope but we could do with a review of a parish council by-election last night 
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 12:04 pm
Ah yes, the rootless cosmopolitan beat the "Englishman"!
There was one principal level contest as well, which was the Tories losing a safe seat in the New Forest to Independents.
Completes an almost totally disastrous December for them, backing up the polls.
There was one principal level contest as well, which was the Tories losing a safe seat in the New Forest to Independents.
Completes an almost totally disastrous December for them, backing up the polls.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 12:24 pm
@ak yes a fairytale ending
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 2:54 pm
Merry Christmas, all! Be well and stay safe.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:01 pm
I just watched that Jackie Weaver Parish Council meeting again and I’d forgotten quite how awful it was.
Good riddance to Brian Tolver and welcome Labour’s Ribia Nisa, who won by just 25 votes from someone standing as “the Englishman”.
https://www.knutsfordguardian.co.uk/new ... -election/
Good riddance to Brian Tolver and welcome Labour’s Ribia Nisa, who won by just 25 votes from someone standing as “the Englishman”.
https://www.knutsfordguardian.co.uk/new ... -election/
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:04 pm
Fresh from a festive viewing of Netflix's "Dont look up". Not the best film ever made but probably one of the most prescient.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:14 pm
And thanks for the wishes PF
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:18 pm
(and very pertinent to PfY's Cassandra complex.)
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:19 pm
I'm looking forward to this, being one of the millions who didn't perform due diligence on SKS !
( OK I don't live your side, but am still concerned after exactly 45 years in Europe this month . )
Interestingly it doesn't show up on Amazon.UK
" ABOUT THE STARMER PROJECT
Forensic political biography of the Labour Party leader
I was never a Corbynista, tho have held pretty much the same views for over fifty years . There's some sadly funny quotes to be found in this article --
Corbyn’s ‘cabal’ of top aides sabotaged election campaign, says Labour leader’s close friend
I suppose Patel could try to deport me to NZ, but their Law changed , so my slightly younger bro has been there for some time now, and no dice for me !
( OK I don't live your side, but am still concerned after exactly 45 years in Europe this month . )
Interestingly it doesn't show up on Amazon.UK
" ABOUT THE STARMER PROJECT
Forensic political biography of the Labour Party leader
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/book ... -eagleton/The Labour Party has virtually disappeared from view under the leadership of Keir Starmer. Hailed as a human-rights champion and political outsider, what sort of politician is he really, and what mark is he making on the new politics of Labour?
In The Starmer Project, Oliver Eagleton provides a careful reading of Starmer’s record at the Crown Prosecution Service and as a member of Jeremy Corbyn’s Shadow Cabinet, tracing the political alliances he forged and the roots of his bid for the Party leadership.
Starmer originally pledged to revitalise Corbynism with a dose of lawyerly competence. To understand what happened afterwards it is necessary to understand the man himself. So little remains known about Starmer that his actions are usually interpreted as overtures to others. On closer inspection, however, he is anything but an empty political vessel.
I was never a Corbynista, tho have held pretty much the same views for over fifty years . There's some sadly funny quotes to be found in this article --
Corbyn’s ‘cabal’ of top aides sabotaged election campaign, says Labour leader’s close friend
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 24066.htmlIn stark contrast, Mr Simpson accuses the leader’s closest aides of “catastrophic misjudgement and ill-focused organisation” and an “obsession” with controlling both the leader and his message.
"Jeremy will inevitably carry much of the blame,” reads Mr Simpson’s submission to an independent review into the election disaster.
“But Labour’s deeper problems lie more in the cadre of senior advisers surrounding Corbyn. None should be allowed within a million miles of Labour’s rebuilding.
“People who’d never negotiated anything more than an extended tea-break were left in charge of the policy sifting process.”
I suppose Patel could try to deport me to NZ, but their Law changed , so my slightly younger bro has been there for some time now, and no dice for me !
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:58 pm
@frog
Something to spend my Christmas money on. Oh…
Something to spend my Christmas money on. Oh…
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 8:43 pm
I think the guts of it are in his Novara article, and maybe more similar to come ...PaulfromYorkshire wrote: ↑Fri 24 Dec, 2021 7:58 pm @frog
Something to spend my Christmas money on. Oh…
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Fri 24 Dec, 2021 8:57 pm
Thanks Frog
Don’t have much else to do tomorrow. I am going to sneak out of my isolation room in the morning and stuff the turkey and get it in the oven
Don’t have much else to do tomorrow. I am going to sneak out of my isolation room in the morning and stuff the turkey and get it in the oven
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 7:21 am
Merry xmas nesters.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 8:59 am
Merry Christmas to all the nesters.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 9:36 am
Feliz Navidad to all from Tenerife ( or Felixstowe Navidad as autocorrect wanted!). Nice warm day and looking forward to a cold swim later. Hope we all have an excellent day and a better 2022!
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 9:41 am
I may adopt Felixstowe Navidad as my habitual festive greeting
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 10:22 am
Just wishing everyone Good Health from a rather dull Normandy 
Delightful cool Christmas morning for sis in SanJuan -PR --
24°C°F
Precipitation: 95%
Humidity: 86%
Wind: 0 km/h
"It's like having the AC on !"
Delightful cool Christmas morning for sis in SanJuan -PR --
24°C°F
Precipitation: 95%
Humidity: 86%
Wind: 0 km/h
"It's like having the AC on !"
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 10:37 am
Merry Christmas all!
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 11:04 am
Happy Christmas everyone, have a great day.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 11:14 am
Just wishing everyone Good Health from a rather dull Normandy
Delightful cool Christmas morning for sis in SanJuan -PR --
24°C°F
Precipitation: 95%
Humidity: 86%
Wind: 0 km/h
"It's like having the AC on !"
Delightful cool Christmas morning for sis in SanJuan -PR --
24°C°F
Precipitation: 95%
Humidity: 86%
Wind: 0 km/h
"It's like having the AC on !"
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 11:33 am
Hope everybody here has a good one 
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 1:25 pm
Happy Christmas everyone from the damp, windswept Mendips.
I got a copy of the book by The Secret Barrister to cheer me up/depress me, not sure which!
I got a copy of the book by The Secret Barrister to cheer me up/depress me, not sure which!
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Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 3:09 pm
I’m so sorry PF - I watched the Queen’s Speech!!!
It was actually very lovely.
It was actually very lovely.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 3:36 pm
Direct from Felixstowe...
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 4:09 pm
@tc I accidentally pressed play on that - my life is ruined!
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 4:10 pm
You have all been warned!!!
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 4:11 pm
In fact @Refitman it must surely be against the site rules
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 4:17 pm
I have a strange (not always widely appreciated) gift for these things.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 4:25 pm
Chrismas No. 1 1987
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sat 25 Dec, 2021 6:43 pm
Which made me think of It’s a Sin - easily the best TV of 2021?
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 12:14 pm
A happy Boxing Day to all. Am recovering from yesterday's excess
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 12:22 pm
For those of us on Twitter
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 1:10 pm
Yeah poor isn’t it Refitman?
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 1:14 pm
So, Andrew Adonis just posted this.
‘My motto of the year is from Roy Jenkins - “never worry about criticism from people you wouldn’t dream of taking advice from”’
The problem it seems is this relies on careful choice of advisors. I suspect Jenkins got it right. I’m less certain about Adonis.
‘My motto of the year is from Roy Jenkins - “never worry about criticism from people you wouldn’t dream of taking advice from”’
The problem it seems is this relies on careful choice of advisors. I suspect Jenkins got it right. I’m less certain about Adonis.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 4:38 pm
Just imagine, if he'd been in the Labour Party SKS would have expelled him for antisemitism .
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 5:55 pm
Yes it hasn’t been a comfortable day for Starmer
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 5:56 pm
I don’t think Tutu was Blair’s number one fan either!
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:00 pm
Why would he be bothered by this?
Nobody has actually been expelled from Labour for expressing sentiments like Tutu's.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:19 pm
@ak I think his Tweet was asking for trouble. Calling him a “leader of moral activism” so missed the mark IMO.
Tutu was uncompromising in calling Israel an apartheid state and calling for sanctions against Israel.
I’m not saying people have been expelled from Labour over those issues, but Starmer’s stance on Israel is a very long way from Tutu’s.
Tutu was uncompromising in calling Israel an apartheid state and calling for sanctions against Israel.
I’m not saying people have been expelled from Labour over those issues, but Starmer’s stance on Israel is a very long way from Tutu’s.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:27 pm
Which is a shame, because I’m delighted to see Starmer and Labour doing better in the polls.
But he just seems to fumble these things in a way that really great leaders don’t.
But he just seems to fumble these things in a way that really great leaders don’t.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:35 pm
I don't think that is a totally unreasonable statement either, Tutu wasn't and never claimed to be an actual politician like Mandela was.
(admittedly I say that as somebody who hasn't actually seen the tweet in question)
(admittedly I say that as somebody who hasn't actually seen the tweet in question)
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:39 pm
Jeremy Corbyn was expelled for what, then ?AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:00 pmWhy would he be bothered by this?
Nobody has actually been expelled from Labour for expressing sentiments like Tutu's.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:40 pm
“ Desmond Tutu was a tower of a man, and a leader of moral activism.
He dedicated his life to tackling injustice and standing up for the oppressed. His impact on the world crosses borders and echoes through generations.
May he rest in peace.”
He dedicated his life to tackling injustice and standing up for the oppressed. His impact on the world crosses borders and echoes through generations.
May he rest in peace.”
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:43 pm
There’s nothing wrong with it, but even Johnson managed to talk about the fight against apartheid, which ultimately is his outstanding, Nobel Prize winning contribution.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:44 pm
They do seem to be expelling a lot of Jewish members who are critical of both the Labour right and Israel.AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:00 pmWhy would he be bothered by this?
Nobody has actually been expelled from Labour for expressing sentiments like Tutu's.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 7:15 pm
On balance, I think I’ll stick with my assessment that it wasn’t a very comfortable Day for Starmer
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 7:27 pm
Suspended not expelled, and for a massively tone deaf and self-centred statement when the EHRC report was released - which moreover drove a coach and horses through an agreement he had previously made with Starmer as to how its release was going to be handled.frog222 wrote: ↑Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:39 pmJeremy Corbyn was expelled for what, then ?AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sun 26 Dec, 2021 6:00 pmWhy would he be bothered by this?
Nobody has actually been expelled from Labour for expressing sentiments like Tutu's.
There is lots to criticise SKS for, but his being absolutely mad when that happened was quite understandable.
Re: Xmas Eve, Xmas day & Boxing Day 2021
Posted: Sun 26 Dec, 2021 7:54 pm
AK "" Suspended not expelled, and for a massively tone deaf and self-centred statement when the EHRC report was released - which moreover drove a coach and horses through an agreement he had previously made with Starmer as to how its release was going to be handled.
There is lots to criticise SKS for, but his being absolutely mad when that happened was quite understandable"
Not myself ever having been a Corbynista I was outraged that JC was not allowed to say that he thought the so-called antisemitism problem in the LP had been exaggerated .
The EHRC report left that open as a valid opinion too, IIRC .
There is lots to criticise SKS for, but his being absolutely mad when that happened was quite understandable"
Not myself ever having been a Corbynista I was outraged that JC was not allowed to say that he thought the so-called antisemitism problem in the LP had been exaggerated .
The EHRC report left that open as a valid opinion too, IIRC .