Re: Thursday 4th September 2014
Posted: Thu 04 Sep, 2014 3:05 pm
Danny Finkelstein looking an arse.
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Cummings not impressed with Morgan.odysseanproject @odysseanproject 1h
@DisIdealist @warwickmansell @BeckyFrancis7 Don't look for logic. When ppl out of their depth operate in chaos what u see is what u get
Reading Mark Ferguson twitter feed it hasn't been too pleasant today up there, some Nat said to Margaret Curran ''you should be ashamed to be Scottish'' sound horrible, reminds me of when there was an Eistedffod around here years ago, a North Walian said to me ''call yourself Welsh, you can't even speak it'' as he was drunk he kept on, until I poured a pint over his head.ohsocynical wrote:Scottish Independence: Nigel Farage accuses Alex Salmond of ‘stirring up excessive nationalism’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sc ... 11666.html
It feels increasingly like living in La-La land.
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Gawd bless Shiny Dave, he really doesn't have a clue, does he?
Yes Dave, the castles built by the Normans and Plantagenets (especially Edward I) to subjugate and contain the defeated Welsh. Not so much shining beacons of defence, but solid & lasting symbols of aggression and oppression.This is also the right place to discuss defence. Wales has more castles, medieval castles per head than anywhere else in the world, around 640 of them, and I hope that will be something you’ll get to visit while you’re in Wales at this conference.
Brilliant typo there letsskip. Nationalism can turn 'viscous'.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Reading Mark Ferguson twitter feed it hasn't been too pleasant today up there, some Nat said to Margaret Curran ''you should be ashamed to be Scottish'' sound horrible, reminds me of when there was an Eistedffod around here years ago, a North Walian said to me ''call yourself Welsh, you can't even speak it'' as he was drunk he kept on, until I poured a pint over his head.ohsocynical wrote:Scottish Independence: Nigel Farage accuses Alex Salmond of ‘stirring up excessive nationalism’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sc ... 11666.html
It feels increasingly like living in La-La land.
Nationalism can turn viscous , I hope it gets no worse up there. But agree, Farage is a right one to talk.
Hah! Bloody Knackered, I should be sleeping instead of writing typos..rebeccariots2 wrote:Brilliant typo there letsskip. Nationalism can turn 'viscous'.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Reading Mark Ferguson twitter feed it hasn't been too pleasant today up there, some Nat said to Margaret Curran ''you should be ashamed to be Scottish'' sound horrible, reminds me of when there was an Eistedffod around here years ago, a North Walian said to me ''call yourself Welsh, you can't even speak it'' as he was drunk he kept on, until I poured a pint over his head.ohsocynical wrote:Scottish Independence: Nigel Farage accuses Alex Salmond of ‘stirring up excessive nationalism’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sc ... 11666.html
It feels increasingly like living in La-La land.
Nationalism can turn viscous , I hope it gets no worse up there. But agree, Farage is a right one to talk.
It sure can be very nastily sticky ... eggs anyone?
Ouch, that's a pretty bruising piece. There's very few columnists out there that like Dave now. Shame.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Well known Marxist James Forsyth declares the election is Miliband's to lose and Tory MPs are planning their careers of outside Parliament. Still, wish he wouldn't make statements like that, I can remember '92.
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Hang on just a min.StephenDolan wrote:http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index. ... -findings/
YouGov, of course, made big methodological changes to their Scottish polls in mid-August. Until then they hadn’t been including 1-17 years olds and they now have a weighting based on whether people were born in Scotland.
Most of that list are underwhelming. Sadiq will be better in Cabinet, my personal preference is Christian, who knows his stuff (he has written extensively on London, especially the transport issues) and doesn't have any real baggage ....so it will be one of the others!!!letsskiptotheleft wrote:David Lammy putting his name into the hat for London mayor must be pretty underwhelming, for Londoners?
Knowing Londoners it wouldn't surprise me if Eddie Izzard won, couldn't be worse than the clown they have got at the moment.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Most of that list are underwhelming. Sadiq will be better in Cabinet, my personal preference is Christian, who knows his stuff (he has written extensively on London, especially the transport issues) and doesn't have any real baggage ....so it will be one of the others!!!letsskiptotheleft wrote:David Lammy putting his name into the hat for London mayor must be pretty underwhelming, for Londoners?
He's talking about the people in No 10 whose leak it was. Cummings has been very scathing about them interfering before.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Cummings not impressed with Morgan.odysseanproject @odysseanproject 1h
@DisIdealist @warwickmansell @BeckyFrancis7 Don't look for logic. When ppl out of their depth operate in chaos what u see is what u get
Mostly barking mad BTL I note.StephenDolan wrote:Ouch, that's a pretty bruising piece. There's very few columnists out there that like Dave now. Shame.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Well known Marxist James Forsyth declares the election is Miliband's to lose and Tory MPs are planning their careers of outside Parliament. Still, wish he wouldn't make statements like that, I can remember '92.
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Panelbase polls have generally shown a greater pro-independence preference than other polls. They apparently had problems with excessive numbers of nationalists signing up.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Hang on just a min.StephenDolan wrote:http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index. ... -findings/
That YouGov poll again, from the PB site.
YouGov, of course, made big methodological changes to their Scottish polls in mid-August. Until then they hadn’t been including 1-17 years olds and they now have a weighting based on whether people were born in Scotland.
Dave's said he won't go after a 'yes' vote and Salmond's said he won't go after a 'no' vote - so it seems we're stuck with them both until the relevant elections!ErnstRemarx wrote:Indeed, very interesting stuff. So would Cameron be forced out a matter of months before a full UK wide general election? It would be a gift to all non-government parties. Mind you, knowing the shameless, bacon faced PR man as we do, does anyone believe that he'd not mount a last ditch rearguard action, leading to the mass implosion of the Tory party?
I think we would be moving into uncharted waters ina very big way.
He'll know that, the 'Camberons' were part of the Norman invasion and helped themselves to the spoils iirc.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Gawd bless Shiny Dave, he really doesn't have a clue, does he?
Yes Dave, the castles built by the Normans and Plantagenets (especially Edward I) to subjugate and contain the defeated Welsh. Not so much shining beacons of defence, but solid & lasting symbols of aggression and oppression.This is also the right place to discuss defence. Wales has more castles, medieval castles per head than anywhere else in the world, around 640 of them, and I hope that will be something you’ll get to visit while you’re in Wales at this conference.
Great policy. Convert buildings totally unsuited to be a schools and then not be ready in time for term starting....inlcuding not being able to meet parents beforehand.We checked to see if there were any entrances we had missed. But no, there was only one way in and that definitely looked like only builders should enter wearing the required hard hat. On the Michaela website it had announced that staff would be in from today and parents would be invited in over the next two weeks for interviews.
On checking the website again today it now says the parent interviews have been cancelled. Oh dear. Does that mean those much vaunted behaviour contracts won't be signed before children are allowed in the school? Will children arrive with the wrong socks and different coloured shoe laces and be sent home before they get a chance to set foot in the door?
Well, as you can see from the photo there may not be a door ready for them to come in. Wondering what was happening, I checked with the foreman. No-one was expected on site and no-one had requested permission to do so. He was confident that everything would be ready on time for the children in two weeks time (but actually it's only 8 days away) well at least a few rooms on the first and second floor. But ready in what sense? No playground area for sure, not that there will be much of that anyway even when it is finished.
diGriz wrote:Been busy of late, have lurked and had the news on but missing general chat.
Is it me or has it become more evident of late that Cameron is way out of his depth on all matters?
http://www.mcsbrent.co.uk/governors/A couple of local people which is fine - have no problem with that but read on...
Daisy Christodoulou
Governor for Knowledge
Hang on...I know that name. yes, that's the Daisy Christodoulou of the Curriculum Centre popping up again.(4)
Oh and:
Harriet Sergeant
Harriet is a journalist, author and Research Fellow for the Centre for Policy Studies, and independent Think Tank
Izzard has said if he stands it will be in 2020, so not this time around. Again, like Christian, he doesn't carry a mass of baggage and is well informed, so could be an eminently suitable choice.Temulkar wrote: Knowing Londoners it wouldn't surprise me if Eddie Izzard won, couldn't be worse than the clown they have got at the moment.
Hi Eric, to my mind the DM question should have been the 'no' option on the ballot paper. Just as people who'll vote 'yes' aren't voting on a solid set of proposals, the DM/'no' option could be similarly viewed - nowt nailed down but the intention.Eric_WLothian wrote:Dave's said he won't go after a 'yes' vote and Salmond's said he won't go after a 'no' vote - so it seems we're stuck with them both until the relevant elections!ErnstRemarx wrote:Indeed, very interesting stuff. So would Cameron be forced out a matter of months before a full UK wide general election? It would be a gift to all non-government parties. Mind you, knowing the shameless, bacon faced PR man as we do, does anyone believe that he'd not mount a last ditch rearguard action, leading to the mass implosion of the Tory party?
I think we would be moving into uncharted waters ina very big way.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3531036
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3531594
With regard to the 'devo-max' comments above, I don't see how it could have been a referendum option. Firstly, it has never been defined; secondly, it would have meant extending the referendum to the whole of the UK. Scotland can vote on whether to stay in the club - but it can't vote to change the rules of the club without the consent of all the members.
Reckon we might get a rather awkward stream of bad stories in the run up to the election? I'd have thought the DfE might have been advised to hold her school back another year.RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh dear, things not looking good at Birbalsingh's school...
Michaela parent interviews cancelled as school remains a building site
http://wembleymatters.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... l?spref=tw
Great policy. Convert buildings totally unsuited to be a schools and then not be ready in time for term starting....inlcuding not being able to meet parents beforehand.We checked to see if there were any entrances we had missed. But no, there was only one way in and that definitely looked like only builders should enter wearing the required hard hat. On the Michaela website it had announced that staff would be in from today and parents would be invited in over the next two weeks for interviews.
On checking the website again today it now says the parent interviews have been cancelled. Oh dear. Does that mean those much vaunted behaviour contracts won't be signed before children are allowed in the school? Will children arrive with the wrong socks and different coloured shoe laces and be sent home before they get a chance to set foot in the door?
Well, as you can see from the photo there may not be a door ready for them to come in. Wondering what was happening, I checked with the foreman. No-one was expected on site and no-one had requested permission to do so. He was confident that everything would be ready on time for the children in two weeks time (but actually it's only 8 days away) well at least a few rooms on the first and second floor. But ready in what sense? No playground area for sure, not that there will be much of that anyway even when it is finished.
t gets worse...according to their website they have "Teaching Fellows".
It's a school not a freaking college or university. Delusions of grandeur.
It might also be because of the last reshuffle. Cameron dumped most of his competent ministers like Hague, Grieve and Clarke, people who might actually argue with him about issues, and replaced them with right-wing ideologues and empty suits from lower ministerial positions... and then brought in more of the same to fill the vacant positions.ohsocynical wrote:diGriz wrote:Been busy of late, have lurked and had the news on but missing general chat.
Is it me or has it become more evident of late that Cameron is way out of his depth on all matters?
He always has been but I think he's made so many blunders that our news media is finally catching on. Or rather are unable to ignore it any more.
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Reading Mark Ferguson twitter feed it hasn't been too pleasant today up there, some Nat said to Margaret Curran ''you should be ashamed to be Scottish'' sound horrible, reminds me of when there was an Eistedffod around here years ago, a North Walian said to me ''call yourself Welsh, you can't even speak it'' as he was drunk he kept on, until I poured a pint over his head.ohsocynical wrote:Scottish Independence: Nigel Farage accuses Alex Salmond of ‘stirring up excessive nationalism’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sc ... 11666.html
It feels increasingly like living in La-La land.
Nationalism can turn viscous , I hope it gets no worse up there. But agree, Farage is a right one to talk.
He just seems to be drifting. Says stuff, doesn't do anything.Spacedone wrote:It might also be because of the last reshuffle. Cameron dumped most of his competent ministers like Hague, Grieve and Clarke, people who might actually argue with him about issues, and replaced them with right-wing ideologues and empty suits from lower ministerial positions... and then brought in more of the same to fill the vacant positions.ohsocynical wrote:diGriz wrote:Been busy of late, have lurked and had the news on but missing general chat.
Is it me or has it become more evident of late that Cameron is way out of his depth on all matters?
He always has been but I think he's made so many blunders that our news media is finally catching on. Or rather are unable to ignore it any more.
It's like watching a government being run by TimNiceBut Dim and his inbred cousins.
Hi diGriz, a pleasure to see you round these parts - like the new place? Your room is just as you left it.diGriz wrote:Been busy of late, have lurked and had the news on but missing general chat.
Is it me or has it become more evident of late that Cameron is way out of his depth on all matters?
Night, PF.PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
Eddie Izzard is - or would be - a good choice. I've heard him speak and it quickly became apparent that he has a good brain. I suspect he's not a full on lefty, but he's not shy, he knows whereof he speaks and he wears his heart on his sleeve. Him or David Lammy? That's an easy choice.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Izzard has said if he stands it will be in 2020, so not this time around. Again, like Christian, he doesn't carry a mass of baggage and is well informed, so could be an eminently suitable choice.Temulkar wrote: Knowing Londoners it wouldn't surprise me if Eddie Izzard won, couldn't be worse than the clown they have got at the moment.
Night PFPorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
I could almost hear Jim Naughtie's inner giggle of disbelief at Cameron's response to his question this morning asking what Cameron was actually able to do about IS and their threat to kill the British hostage. You could hear Cameron's thought pauses (like in a job interview that's going pretty badly) as he searched for what he could say ... and came up with he's going to personally supervise getting everyone together from the Government, security forces and 'others' (you could really hear him searching before that word came out) to see what we can do ....PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Dare I say it, the Prime Minister isn't looking terribly "prime ministerial" any more is he?
It's the illusion of activity. He's not given it much thought so time to fall back on the sound bites, regardless of how lame they come over as.rebeccariots2 wrote:I could almost hear Jim Naughtie's inner giggle of disbelief at Cameron's response to his question this morning asking what Cameron was actually able to do about IS and their threat to kill the British hostage. You could hear Cameron's thought pauses (like in a job interview that's going pretty badly) as he searched for what he could say ... and came up with he's going to personally supervise getting everyone together from the Government, security forces and 'others' (you could really hear him searching before that word came out) to see what we can do ....PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Dare I say it, the Prime Minister isn't looking terribly "prime ministerial" any more is he?
'Personally supervise' - what does that mean ... approve an invite list? It was waffle. The man is pathetic.
I agree to a certain extent - but the 'no' argument is built on rational arguments, the 'yes' case is largely based on emotion. 'No' doesn't mean no change (the Scotland Act 2012 comes into force next year and will devolve more taxation powers to Holyrood). I would argue that 'no' represents gradual change which can be reversed if it goes pear-shaped. Immediate independence is irreversible.ErnstRemarx wrote:Hi Eric, to my mind the DM question should have been the 'no' option on the ballot paper. Just as people who'll vote 'yes' aren't voting on a solid set of proposals, the DM/'no' option could be similarly viewed - nowt nailed down but the intention.Eric_WLothian wrote: Dave's said he won't go after a 'yes' vote and Salmond's said he won't go after a 'no' vote - so it seems we're stuck with them both until the relevant elections!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3531036
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3531594
With regard to the 'devo-max' comments above, I don't see how it could have been a referendum option. Firstly, it has never been defined; secondly, it would have meant extending the referendum to the whole of the UK. Scotland can vote on whether to stay in the club - but it can't vote to change the rules of the club without the consent of all the members.
I don't believe the current settlement is sustainable for the Scots: if it were then Wee Eck's merry band wouldn't have got the traction they have. The Scots clearly like devolved government, and DM is a far better option than 'no' (ie, no change) and would have committed the UK government to think rather more carefully about the whole issue, as well as enabling pro-Union advocates to point to positive reasons for staying in. It would also shoot the 'yes' campaign's fox regarding negativism.
Just my opinion. It simply frustrates me that Cameron blithely set up a referendum that he was arrogant to assume he'd win without apparently ever giving any thought on how to entice Scots to stay in the UK.
No they're not - you know - they're really not. The Lib Dems would consider wrinkling their collective nose at a fart as a 'showdown'. Andrew George's bill would make a terrible situation a bit better - but still leave a stinkingly bad and unjust policy in place. It will be interesting to see how many of his Lib Dem colleagues get behind it ... but showdown it won't be.BBC Politics @BBCPolitics 45m
The Lib Dems and Conservatives are set for a Commons showdown over the "bedroom tax" or "spare room subsidy". http://bbc.in/1Be6RaN" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He's pretty good in "Castles in the Sky" too imo. (Saw it at the cinema, but it's on BBC2 tonight).ErnstRemarx wrote:Eddie Izzard is - or would be - a good choice. I've heard him speak and it quickly became apparent that he has a good brain. I suspect he's not a full on lefty, but he's not shy, he knows whereof he speaks and he wears his heart on his sleeve. Him or David Lammy? That's an easy choice.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Izzard has said if he stands it will be in 2020, so not this time around. Again, like Christian, he doesn't carry a mass of baggage and is well informed, so could be an eminently suitable choice.Temulkar wrote: Knowing Londoners it wouldn't surprise me if Eddie Izzard won, couldn't be worse than the clown they have got at the moment.
Oh, I say ...... What do I think of Farage? Well it now seems that he has replaced democracy with his casting couch. Apparently if you fit the bill he will slip you into the position of his choice. Now that Douglas Carswell is Nigel’s bitch, he will perpetually be picking up the political equivalent of prison soap. Trust me on that one...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... s-carswell
I'd like to think you may be right. The irrevocable nature of voting YES is what is hitting me, and probably a lot of others, most hard in these last couple of weeks. There is no turning around in a few months or years time. And what is going on in Europe is less than reassuring at the same time.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I wonder if the recent polls in Scotland will actually concentrate minds in a way not entirely to Salmond's liking??
It is one thing to sound off about "Cameron......Tories......so I'm voting yes" when "no" looks certain to win anyway.
But if "the unthinkable" genuinely seems possible, some might actually think hard whether they *really* want to take such an irrevocable step?
Thanks for reminding me, I'd forgotten that was on.Eric_WLothian wrote:He's pretty good in "Castles in the Sky" too imo. (Saw it at the cinema, but it's on BBC2 tonight).