Tuesday 15th March 2022

[refitman]

Morning all.

[tinyclanger2]

((hello))

[gilsey]

Hi tc <waves>

[gilsey]

In the Commons Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, is taking questions. Pat McFadden, the shadow Treasury minister, asked why he would not support Labour’s proposal for a windfall tax on energy companies. In reply Sunak said it was because the government wanted to get more investment into the North Sea, and “exploiting domestic resources”.

A Let's extract more fossil fuels as if that wasn't what got us into this mess in the first place

B Can't jeopardise industry donations, or my lucrative post-parliament career.

[frog222]

@Gilsey -- also the dastards wouldn't be able to spend so much on share-buybacks .

[refitman]

For TC2

[frog222]

Good one --
Ukrainian heritage is under threat – and so is the truth about Soviet-era Russia
Anna Reid
Shelling is destroying buildings and art, while archivists (in Odesa) scan documents around the clock for fear of Russian ‘archivocide’
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... era-russia

[gilsey]

'sporting integrity'

[gilsey]

Or maybe just luck, but we'll take it.

Really interesting thread.

Unroll

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1503 ... 73347.html

[AnatolyKasparov]

In the Commons Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, is taking questions. Pat McFadden, the shadow Treasury minister, asked why he would not support Labour’s proposal for a windfall tax on energy companies. In reply Sunak said it was because the government wanted to get more investment into the North Sea, and “exploiting domestic resources”.

A Let's extract more fossil fuels as if that wasn't what got us into this mess in the first place

B Can't jeopardise industry donations, or my lucrative post-parliament career.

Sunak really is such a total Treasury bot.

[Willow904]

For TC2

I believe he currently has a house near Wells, (he definitely used to have one in Bath at one point) so is a regular visitor to the UK and appears to have picked up a bit of a British sense of humour along the way

[tinyclanger2]

For TC2

I do like the idea of a kind of sartorial representation of (packets of) biscuits.

[tinyclanger2]

Hi tc <waves>

[AnatolyKasparov]

'sporting integrity'

Playing the victim, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Truth is, they were never liked much by other fans even in the pre-Chelski days.

[frog222]

It's the same the whole world over, some teachers are VERY dangerous --



Good convoy thread from Gilsey, damn the absent 'like' button !

[frog222]

From a military & strategic perspective, RU has already lost.

As I said a week ago, RU offensive operations will soon culminate due to losses & lack of supplies. They will then go on the defense, with continued artillery destruction of towns. 7/

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Chelsea call to ban all fans from Cup tie angers government and Middlesbrough

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... abramovich

Chelsea are also lobbying the government to lift the £20,000 cap on travel to away games. They argue it would normally cost three times as much to travel to Middlesbrough and it remains to be seen how Thomas Tuchel and his players will get to the game.

What? How the hell does it cost £60,000 to get a coach from London to Middlesbrough and back?

[AnatolyKasparov]

Chelsea have now apparently withdrawn this somewhat impertinent "request".

[RogerOThornhill]

Good evening.

I've just seen this...and it's quite something if you recall who Ms Vine was once married to...

[frog222]

Paul Hopkins 🖥 @hopkinsmmi
·
Mar 14 Replying to @WestminsterWAG
Yes, who could have instigated this pseudo-market, non-democratic process of detaching schools from parents and the local community and placing them in the hands of private individuals - if only you knew them.

[PorFavor]

Good morfternoon.

Blair says it is a mistake for Nato to be as specific as it has been about not getting involved in the war. He explains:

I understand and accept that there is not political support for any direct military engagement by Nato of Russia. But we should be clear-eyed about what Putin is doing. He is using our correct desire not to provoke escalation alongside his willingness to escalate as a bargaining chip against us. When he is threatening Nato, even stoking fears of nuclear conflict, in pursuit of his attempt to topple by force a peaceful nation’s democratically elected president and wage war on its people, there is something incongruous about our repeated reassurance to him that we will not react with force. (Politics Live, Guardian)

I think he makes a very reasonable point here.

As for the rest of what he had to say (apart, possibly, for the bit about Crimea because we've already let that one slide) I don't agree.

[tinyclanger2]

Hey it's the 2020s

[Sky'sGoneOut]

“This is the best we can do to spread our lies? He looks like a bag of laundry with head trauma. A constipated pinata. The before photo in a brain transplant commercial. He looks like a man with his penis caught in a car door.”

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Keep at it Chris.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Hey it's the 2020s

Jane an Edward Barton! I didn't know they'd released new stuff. How splendid. Thanks TC.

[PorFavor]

He's good, isn't he? He does what the journalists should already have done but haven't.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Who, Chris Bryant?

He is in truth the classic curate's egg - but when he's good, he's pretty good.

[gilsey]

Chelsea call to ban all fans from Cup tie angers government and Middlesbrough

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... abramovich

Chelsea are also lobbying the government to lift the £20,000 cap on travel to away games. They argue it would normally cost three times as much to travel to Middlesbrough and it remains to be seen how Thomas Tuchel and his players will get to the game.

What? How the hell does it cost £60,000 to get a coach from London to Middlesbrough and back?

It doesn't, they're having to go by coach to keep within the allowance.
Plan was to fly, but I think you'd have to charter a luxury jet for it to cost that much, maybe that's what they usually do.
Loganair Heathrow-Teesside on Friday is £100!

[Sky'sGoneOut]

I think he makes a very reasonable point here.

As for the rest of what he had to say (apart, possibly, for the bit about Crimea because we've already let that one slide) I don't agree.

I think he's entirely, dangerously wrong. Again. NATO has to remain a defensive organisation. We'd all love to see the Russian artillery and tanks in Ukraine blown to shit by someone riding over the hills to the rescue but the risk is insanely high. The simple fact is Putin could wipe out most of human civilisation and as awful as what's happening in Ukraine is are we willing to risk that? I'd rather not.

Blair should really shut the fuck up, he seems to exist in some alternative reality where he's not responsible for fatally weakening all the international organisations, laws and conventions set up after WWII to stop this shit happening again. He ignored the U.N and international law in invading Iraq at the behest of a right wing president who decided the Geneva convention didn't apply and it was fine to torture your enemies.

It beggars belief that anyone regards him as having anything worthwhile to contribute.

(I'm not saying you do PF, in fact I'm pretty certain you'd like to kick his sorry arse).

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Not a good night for we Man Utd supporters on here.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

The referee was the worst kind you could have against Atletico (who I admire) but United were piss poor. I fear this team are almost unmanageable.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

It doesn't, they're having to go by coach to keep within the allowance.
Plan was to fly, but I think you'd have to charter a luxury jet for it to cost that much, maybe that's what they usually do.
Loganair Heathrow-Teesside on Friday is £100!

I was in the car with my brother when we got stuck a few cars behind the Liverpool coach on the M62 on the way to Leeds last year at roadworks near Huddersfileld, he owed me £20 so I didn't give him any petrol money.

Now it appears I owe him £59,980.

(Edit, forgot a full stop).

(Edit 2 forgot how to spell 'stop').

[PorFavor]

The fact that Ukraine is not a NATO member renders the defensive bit void in this case, I agree, and I'm not saying that I support military action by NATO against Russia (although the sub-text of Tony Blair's essay indicates that he well might). But I do think that NATO is behaving in an overly wishy washy (my brain can't come up with the correct words - I have a cold, so I'll blame that) fashion.

[PorFavor]

@AnatolyKasparov

Yes - Chris Bryant.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

The fact that Ukraine is not a NATO member renders the defensive bit void in this case, I agree, and I'm not saying that I support military action by NATO against Russia (although the sub-text of Tony Blair's essay indicates that he well might). But I do think that NATO is behaving in an overly wishy washy (my brain can't come up with the correct words - I have a cold, so I'll blame that) fashion.

Wishy washy or not wanting to get us all killed?

[PorFavor]

Boris Johnson going ‘from dictator to dictator’ for oil, says Starmer

Labour leader warns about replacing dependence on Russia with reliance on Saudis, as PM prepares for Gulf visit (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ys-starmer

[Sky'sGoneOut]

[PorFavor]

Night night.

[Sky'sGoneOut]