Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th November 2014

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:27 am

Heckle the PM... get £15m for flood defences
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 93248.html
... The Whitehall source noted that Yalding is also in a constituency that is expected to be a straight LibDem-Conservative fight in May's election. Tory Helen Grant held the seat in 2010, but on a substantially reduced majority of 5,889 after the Lib Dems' vote share rose by 13.2 per cent...

Here's one of Osborne's scrawny rabbits I guess. Except - if people have any sense and memory - they will realise the game here. Savagely cut said flood defence budget when you get into power ... and leave it that way for 4 years. Then announce more funds just before the election ... as though you are increasing the budget, when you're not, maybe just restoring some of what you took away but to different places .... places that are more favourable for you come the election. But said funds won't materialise until well after the election anyway. All a game of promises, promises - designed for maximum publicity.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:31 am

howsillyofme1 wrote:Good morning everyone

Are we starting to see some clues about the Guardian's position in May?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -europe-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A personal support for Cameron with caveats about his party.......leading to a recommendation to vote LD in order to keep him in power but not at the mercy of the right-wing Tories

Well how daft would that be? Even if the Conservatives scrape through the election and get into power again ... doubt very much that Cameron will go unchallenged as leader. The G must think people are very stupid if they go with that line ... but then again they must do if they keep trotting out these deranged G opinions and puff pieces for Tory and Lib Dems alike.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:36 am

I hadn't realise that Cameron made his speech at JCB!

That's the JCB run by one of his party donors Anthony Bamford who he made into a life peer last year...

Did anyone comment on this already?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:40 am

Guess what?

CameronMustGo back at # 1

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:43 am

rebeccariots2 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:Good morning everyone

Are we starting to see some clues about the Guardian's position in May?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -europe-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A personal support for Cameron with caveats about his party.......leading to a recommendation to vote LD in order to keep him in power but not at the mercy of the right-wing Tories
Well how daft would that be? Even if the Conservatives scrape through the election and get into power again ... doubt very much that Cameron will go unchallenged as leader. The G must think people are very stupid if they go with that line ... but then again they must do if they keep trotting out these deranged G opinions and puff pieces for Tory and Lib Dems alike.

Of course it would be daft, would anyone be surprised though. Any position the Guardian takes will lack any sort of coherence, being hypocritical if they go Labour and against their history if any other way

The evidence is there though. They are laying off Cameron - and in this article giving him a great big benefit of the doubt, whilst at the same time trying to big up LD opposition to the worst excesses of Osbornomics......they may figure that a hung Parliament is inevitable and their preferred option would be a LD/Tory continuing

I cannot see how the Guardian can credibly back a Labour win, or anything that leaves Miliband as PM, based on their personal attacks over the last few months. The political editorial staff are all soft Tories/Blairites/Orange Bookers to a man (Wintour, Watt and thenon-entities whose names I cannot even remember)

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:49 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:I hadn't realise that Cameron made his speech at JCB!

That's the JCB run by one of his party donors Anthony Bamford who he made into a life peer last year...

Did anyone comment on this already?

Radio 4 reported the location as being at JCB without a mention that Bamford is a Cameron pal, Tory donor etc.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 9:53 am

I liked this from my current obsession (apols, CMG has transfixed me)

katie anderson ‏@missgeog 58s59 seconds ago
@MarrShow we don't want to "clobber" people with a mansion tax. Well Geoege, what did the bedroom tax do? #CameronMustGo

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 10:00 am

From #CMG

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ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 10:07 am

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:There'll be a chunk cut from overseas aid, which will get spent about a dozen times- on pensions, roads, health, social care, defence and prisons.

And some pseudo "helping the low paid" which will assume they all live with rent free with their parents and don't have any kids.

Grammar schools.

And probably quite a few tax cuts which "pay for themselves".
That's about right Tubby. They only want overseas aid to comprise of vaccination and health programmes - and to be delivered by British organisations only - according to today's website.

I think they're probably planning to pay for everything else by abolishing the Dept of Culture Media and Sports.

The wording re the NHS is very careful - free at point of use - doesn't commit to how it's funded and managed.

At present their policies for the people webpage reads like a list of every populist idea that could be shouted out from the floor at their Doncaster conference. Which, in fairness, is pretty much what they say it is.

Rabid right wing Americans will tell you their health service is free at point of use. They'll say no-one is turned away.
But it's basic and the only way to get decent treatment is to take out Health insurance. Which is what Farage wants.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 10:45 am

Dev Raval ‏@D_Raval 29m29 minutes ago
Remind me, to which problem is Owen Patterson the solution to?*

*returning an idiot to his village doesn't count
#Murnaghan

I shouldn't be reading funny Tweets, it hurts to laugh, but I couldn't pass this one by.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 10:50 am

Important point from CMG:

carol ivory ‏@parmatma1111 39s39 seconds ago Cardiff, Wales
@RippedOffBriton Every one of your tweets help my understanding of politics. Keep Tweeting please #CameronMustGo

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:08 am

RobertSnozers wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Heckle the PM... get £15m for flood defences
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 93248.html
... The Whitehall source noted that Yalding is also in a constituency that is expected to be a straight LibDem-Conservative fight in May's election. Tory Helen Grant held the seat in 2010, but on a substantially reduced majority of 5,889 after the Lib Dems' vote share rose by 13.2 per cent...
Here's one of Osborne's scrawny rabbits I guess. Except - if people have any sense and memory - they will realise the game here. Savagely cut said flood defence budget when you get into power ... and leave it that way for 4 years. Then announce more funds just before the election ... as though you are increasing the budget, when you're not, maybe just restoring some of what you took away but to different places .... places that are more favourable for you come the election. But said funds won't materialise until well after the election anyway. All a game of promises, promises - designed for maximum publicity.
Hmm. Maidstone was Anne Widdecombe's seat, so there was no incumbency, and circumstances were a bit unusual in 2010 as the LibDem PPC was Peter Carroll who very publicly had Joanna Lumley as a supporter when he was lobbying for Gurkhas' rights. He also started a very successful campaign to stop changes to maternity services which would have meant the consultant led service moving to Tunbridge Wells. Grant had to follow. Didn't help that she was an 'A-Lister'.

Mind you, I can't imagine Grant will have much of an incumbency benefit in 2015 as Andrew Lansley signed off on the plans to reorganise the maternity services (after unsuccessfully trying to kick it into the long grass) just before Christmas 2010. Grant virtually went into hiding and had to reinvent herself somewhat. I can't imagine she's particularly popular locally. Thing is, I can't see Carroll doing better than last time (if indeed he is the candidate) especially with LibDem support imploding nationally.

He isn't, the Lib Dem PPC is Jasper Gerard; he was born in the area and still lives here (yes, this is my constituency, so we know Allen has no real chance - but we ain't letting that stop us!!), used to be a columnist for the Sunday Times I believe.

People were spitting blood last year over the flooding; Yalding is prone to flooding and had been earmarked for some serious defences under Labour's plans, the plans that were ditched by the Tories as soon as they took office. So, yes, you're right, Grant's popularity has taken a hit and the Lib Dems have retained some popularity here, but not enough to give Gerard the edge, even with the Kipper factor. Sadly you could stand the proverbial blue rosette wearing donkey here and it would take this seat.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:08 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Important point from CMG:

carol ivory ‏@parmatma1111 39s39 seconds ago Cardiff, Wales
@RippedOffBriton Every one of your tweets help my understanding of politics. Keep Tweeting please #CameronMustGo

That is an excellent point actually. All the info being put on #CameronMustGo has been out there for anyone interested enough to search for it but most of it hasn't been widely reported. Now it is being compiled under a hashtag that anyone on Twitter can easily access it is probably reaching people who have little idea of what has been happening beyond the fabricated reality of the media.

If CMG does nothing more than educate a few people then it will still have been worth it.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:26 am

@TGS

Sadly you could stand the proverbial blue rosette wearing donkey here and it would take this seat.

In other words, asses voting for asses.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:29 am

Spacedone wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Important point from CMG:

carol ivory ‏@parmatma1111 39s39 seconds ago Cardiff, Wales
@RippedOffBriton Every one of your tweets help my understanding of politics. Keep Tweeting please #CameronMustGo
That is an excellent point actually. All the info being put on #CameronMustGo has been out there for anyone interested enough to search for it but most of it hasn't been widely reported. Now it is being compiled under a hashtag that anyone on Twitter can easily access it is probably reaching people who have little idea of what has been happening beyond the fabricated reality of the media.

If CMG does nothing more than educate a few people then it will still have been worth it.

And brought the bias of the right wing press to people's attention. Especially the BBC's lack of interest.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:33 am

Arthur Seaton ‏@lockhart_flaws 10m10 minutes ago
A Ukipper has just corrected me Griffin is not supporting Ukip just voting for them. That’s me told then

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:34 am

CMG update:
So much more attractive than that Ed Miliband character:

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:35 am

I mean imagine being caught giving change to someone in the street, when you could look all vigorous, glossy and unbending instead.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:43 am

And quicker than you can spell the word "unravel" yet another Tory policy does.

Andy Burnham ‏@andyburnhammp · 57s58 seconds ago
So it's not £2BN extra, then? > “@BBCHughPym: Health money: £1.3 bill new from Treasury & £0,7 from Health Dept reallocation to frontline”

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 12:14 pm

Maidstone has been a LibDem/Liberal "target" since the 1970s without ever quite seeming to come within reach.

Grant is a genuine example of that much abused term "parachute" - she was basically imposed on the local party by Cameron who wanted "progressive" brownie points (as somebody who was both non-white and ex-Labour, she ticked two boxes at once) and there is still resentment there. Given the state of the LibDems nationally, though, hard to see her not getting a lukewarm "endorsement" again next year.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 12:43 pm

@ RogerOThornhill

Early day motion 572

EDUCATION
Session: 2014-15
Date tabled: 27.11.2014

Primary sponsor: Miliband, Edward
Sponsors: Umunna, Chuka Byrne, Liam Balls, Edward Hunt, Tristram Winterton, Rosie

That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Education (Student Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2014 (S.I., 2014, No. 2765), dated 14 October 2014, a copy of which was laid before this House on 16 October, be annulled.

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2014-15/572" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What Miliband & Labour team want annulled linked below.

STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS

2014 No. 2765

EDUCATION, ENGLAND

The Education (Student Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2014

Made14th October 2014
Laid before Parliament16th October 2014
Coming into force in accordance with regulation 1

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2765/made" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've got a bad feeling about this legislation - Miliband & others want it gone - could you or someone else explain briefly, pointedly why, please? thank you.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:17 pm

Mark Raven ‏@monkees1 3m3 minutes ago Grays, East
@NemesisUK @KrustyAllslopp @leftferret Dodgy bastard who sold garage to Myleene Klass goes into hiding http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/cele ... 4112092953" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

And here's another.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:28 pm

Blimey, thought Radio 4 presenter Mark Mardell was going to have an orgasm he was pushing austerity-porn spending cuts so hard.

Left wing BBC, my arse.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:32 pm

yahyah wrote:Blimey, thought Radio 4 presenter Mark Mardell was going to have an orgasm he was pushing austerity-porn spending cuts so hard.

Left wing BBC, my arse.

He's like that about pretty much everything, tbf.

Though I obviously concur with your wider point

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:47 pm

James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers · 4h 4 hours ago
Andrew Marr introduces George Osborne as "the master of pain". Steady #marr

Oh I say ... that's a bit close to the ... well close to something anyway.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:50 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Arthur Seaton ‏@lockhart_flaws 10m10 minutes ago
A Ukipper has just corrected me Griffin is not supporting Ukip just voting for them. That’s me told then

Otto English @Otto_English · 3h 3 hours ago
Kippers bang on about how UKIP alone bars ex BNP and EDL people from membership. Ever wondered why the other parties don't need that policy?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 1:56 pm

Spacedone wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Osborne talking of £2bn more for the NHS.

Useless old Ed can't have had anything to do with this, could he?
I pointed out on Twitter that Osborne took about the same amount from the NHS budget underspend in Mar 2013 so that he could go into the Budget claiming that his deficit reduction was on target. Since he took that money away more and more Trusts have been going into financial difficulties...

Excellent point.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:18 pm

Is it me, or has the Guardian switched everything to Beta ?
Can't get any normal view of it now.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:19 pm

All this "why wasn't your MP at this debate?" stuff is a bit tiresome. I'd rather my MP was reading NAO reports or something.

Do we know if Miliband's doing anything on second jobs for MPs? How about set the maximum outside at the average wage or something?

mikems · Post by **mikems** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:30 pm

Is that this Murnaghan?

http://www.dermotmurnaghan.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or this one?

http://www.victorianhospitalarchitecture.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:31 pm

citizenJA wrote:@ RogerOThornhill
Early day motion 572

EDUCATION
Session: 2014-15
Date tabled: 27.11.2014

Primary sponsor: Miliband, Edward
Sponsors: Umunna, Chuka Byrne, Liam Balls, Edward Hunt, Tristram Winterton, Rosie

That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Education (Student Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2014 (S.I., 2014, No. 2765), dated 14 October 2014, a copy of which was laid before this House on 16 October, be annulled.

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2014-15/572" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What Miliband & Labour team want annulled linked below.

STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS

2014 No. 2765

EDUCATION, ENGLAND

The Education (Student Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2014

Made14th October 2014
Laid before Parliament16th October 2014
Coming into force in accordance with regulation 1

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2765/made" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've got a bad feeling about this legislation - Miliband & others want it gone - could you or someone else explain briefly, pointedly why, please? thank you.

Not RoT and not fully sure, but reading 4.5 and 4.6 of the "Explanatory Memorandum" it appear to tighten the definition of disability (for DSA) and restrict the amount a disabled student can claim towards computer equipment to only items over £200 (so would exclude printer cartridge's, paper, software programs etc. )
Only glanced through it, probably missed more than spotted .
7.5 This instrument introduces the definition of disability in the Equality Act 2010 to the
2011 Regulations to define more clearly who is entitled to DSA support and who is
not.
7.6 This instrument amends the 2011 Regulations to restrict entitlement to DSA for
computers to an amount equal to the purchase cost less £200.
Explanatory Memorandum
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014 ... m/contents" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:39 pm

Jeremy Hunt ‏@Jeremy_Hunt 21m21 minutes ago
What @andyburnhammp won't tell you - Labour's plans won't raise a penny for the NHS in 15/16. See @guardian piece: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... e-unravels" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Well done, Guardian!

This is the amazing revelation that new taxes don't bring in money before they exist!

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:43 pm

Btw, it's not 2 billion that has been found for the NHS, it's 1.95 billion. according to @Tory Treasury that figure was released to ''keep things simple'' more like more bollocking lies.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:51 pm

£500m to come off Scotland and fill the gap?

In exchange for a percentage of oil revenues over and above $113 a barrel, which the Scottish Government dismissively treated as some ultra prudent minimum when doing their sums in 2012?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 2:54 pm

For those interested the recent 'Ecopop' initiative in Switzerland has been roundly defeated

This was sold as being a ecological and environmental initiative to limit population growth but the UDC (or SVP in German) have been involved and they are clearly racist. The environmental side always has some merit in discussion but this type of approach based on population - ie immigrant - is easily hijacked by others

The vote was considered to be in the balance but it looks a pretty clear 'No' even in the reactionist Cantons. I ive in Vaud which was the strongest against the initiative

The Guardian featured ti vote today which is why I mentioned it

http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/suisse/stor ... n-23576813" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/n ... tionalists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:13 pm

Balls told the programme that Labour would put an extra £2.5bn a year into the NHS, partly paid for by its mansion tax on homes worth more than £2bn.

Osborne said it was more accurate to describe this as a “homes tax”.

He said: “Of course they come on this show and say it’s for people with houses worth £10m or £15m, but once Labour introduces a homes tax, it will be people with homes with a fraction of that who will be clobbered with it.”

In that they said £2m and that's a fraction of £10m, that is correct.

Is he still on the stuff from the other day?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:21 pm

Just hearing about what the BBC comes out with - and lets Tories and Kippers come out with - these days makes my blood boil.
Haven't been able to watch much for most of this year, and by all accounts it is just getting worse.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:21 pm

Ivan White ‏@ivanwhite48 9m9 minutes ago
Labour man on his deathbed announced he'd become a Tory. When his friend asked why, he said "I'd rather one of theirs died than one of ours"

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:38 pm

Sorry - Daily Mail:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-285490 ... paign=1490

PM frustrated by not being able to kill stuff. Much like the Normans when they'd run out of Northerners to harry.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:40 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Just hearing about what the BBC comes out with - and lets Tories and Kippers come out with - these days makes my blood boil.
Haven't been able to watch much for most of this year, and by all accounts it is just getting worse.

I've completely given up on it.

It's mugging people like us off, hoping we'll support it because it makes nice nature programmes.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:45 pm

@RR, Electoral Calculus still have the seats local to you still as Labour gains, wishful thinking or do you tend to agree?

http://electoralcalculus.co.uk/conlist_wales.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:51 pm

Funny figures on there. Plaid Cymru holding one seat is 100%.

Labour holding Blaenau Gwent is merely 99.9%

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:52 pm

Ha, ha.

UKIP predicted 15% in Bethnal Green and Bow.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 3:52 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Just hearing about what the BBC comes out with - and lets Tories and Kippers come out with - these days makes my blood boil.
Haven't been able to watch much for most of this year, and by all accounts it is just getting worse.
I've completely given up on it.

It's mugging people like us off, hoping we'll support it because it makes nice nature programmes.

Am so sick of seeing the same self-satisfied presenters recycled into more and more fields they have no expertise in, that they'd have to pay me quite a bit to get me to watch any of their nature/culture and other once-interesting programmes.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:02 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Ha, ha.

UKIP predicted 15% in Bethnal Green and Bow.

Perfect example of why I am wary of some of their predictions, no doubt they stand a token Muslim in that constituency? Wonder if there's one selected, do you know?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:25 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Ha, ha.

UKIP predicted 15% in Bethnal Green and Bow.

Perfect example of why I am wary of some of their predictions, no doubt they stand a token Muslim in that constituency? Wonder if there's one selected, do you know?

I don't know. The BNP stood here last time, and duly got 2.8%.

All 3 main parties plus Respect had Muslim candidates last time.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:34 pm

Well, finished moving the last of my stuff and am now fully moved into my new house. Just relaxing with a beer and the rugby. Also catching up with all the great posts today.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:37 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Arthur Seaton ‏@lockhart_flaws 10m10 minutes ago
A Ukipper has just corrected me Griffin is not supporting Ukip just voting for them. That’s me told then

Otto English @Otto_English · 3h 3 hours ago
Kippers bang on about how UKIP alone bars ex BNP and EDL people from membership. Ever wondered why the other parties don't need that policy?

As long as they fully renounce their previous beliefs, I don't see any problem with former BNP/EDL members joining another party. Obviously, if they are standing for office there needs to be a lot of checking for skeletons.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:43 pm

refitman wrote:Well, finished moving the last of my stuff and am now fully moved into my new house. Just relaxing with a beer and the rugby. Also catching up with all the great posts today.

Well done – hope you'll be very happy and comfortable there

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 4:49 pm

refitman wrote:Well, finished moving the last of my stuff and am now fully moved into my new house. Just relaxing with a beer and the rugby. Also catching up with all the great posts today.

Great stuff.

I moved in here over a year ago and still haven't finished unpacking. In fact, today I discovered that the cat has peed in one of my boxes - the one which contains some of my LPs. Any handy hints from any of you regarding remedying such a problem, please?

Hello, everyone! Just thought I'd pop in to talk about cat pee and generally raise the tone . . . .