Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Tuesday 7th June 2022
Morning all.
Re: Tuesday 7th June 2022
Morning,
Greasy Smogg, back pedaling:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... e-27163314
Greasy Smogg, back pedaling:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... e-27163314
He said today: “One is enough. That’s the rule in a democracy – if you win by one you win.”
The Brexit Opportunities Minister tonight admitted his comments in 2018 had been a “mistake”.
He told journalists: “Everybody told me when I said that I was both wrong and ungracious and I accepted the view of my friends - and indeed of some of my non friends too."
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Near-death experience debunked. It really was a PR stunt to get sympathy.
Number 16 shows the U-turn from “Doctors were making plans to announce my death (above)” to “it was really a mild case”
Number 16 shows the U-turn from “Doctors were making plans to announce my death (above)” to “it was really a mild case”
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Hmmm, that poster does come across as a bit of a crank - "Freeman Of The Land" and similar stuff.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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For her many fans out there:
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/u ... 95144.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/u ... 95144.html
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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If she didn't exist, the Tories opponents would have to invent her
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From the Spectator.
The game is up, Boris Johnson.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... is-johnson
The game is up, Boris Johnson.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... is-johnson
The worst possible outcome for the Conservative and Unionist party is also a pretty lousy result for the country. That this needs saying – that Tory MPs need reminding of this – is itself yet another data point supporting the proposition that Boris Johnson’s leadership has thoroughly corrupted the party.
Johnson has always been an amoral creature but the defences mounted by his supporters now teeter on the brink of immorality. The suggestion that we must support Boris because otherwise the United Kingdom will no longer be capable of supporting Ukraine’s resistance against Russian aggression is, even by this government’s standards, a grotesque, shameful, new low. There is nothing to suggest another prime minister could not, or would not, offer the same assistance. The spectacle of the Prime Minister using dead Ukrainians to bolster his own domestic position is revolting. All those who parrot this line – in parliament or the media or even in the country at large – should be ashamed of themselves.
So here we are. The government will likely lose in Wakefield and we must hope it loses in Tiverton and then keeps losing wherever and whenever voters are given the opportunity to return a verdict upon it. Only then, perhaps, will Conservative MPs appreciate the deep folly of their previous choices. Only then can there be the prospect of some relief. This stricture extends to the government’s previous friends in the media too for, even on Fleet Street, there must be a limit to how long the unsupportable may be supported.
A Labour government led by Sir Keir Starmer will doubtless disappoint in many ways but, at least initially, these disappointments may lie within the bailiwick of normal politics. Beyond it being time for a change anyway, a Labour government would offer the prospect of some kind of return to decency. That is not too much to ask for but if all Labour is asking for is the chance to serve it may prove enough.
Despite what he may claim, Johnson is finished. The public know this and their sense of justice demands action. The precise moment of Johnson’s demise may not yet be fixed but the gathering sense of inevitability means last night’s vote was a shattering prime ministerial defeat in all but name. Tick tock. Tick tock. Time’s up.
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Extra checks and tests to diagnose problems that'll have to be treated in the private sector due to lack of capacity in the NHS, presumably.[Javid] updated cabinet on the scale of the challenge post pandemic...... He said government investment was delivering some early successes, with one million checks delivered with the help of 90 new diagnostic centres created since July, with 70 more due to open within two years allowing for nine million extra checks and tests per year.
In all the talk about over-50s dropping out of the labour market, haven't seen many pointing to a possible link with the 6m people on the NHS waiting list.
Sure many of those will already be retired but there'll be a big number of working age.
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
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Hmmm, did you watch the two videos, the first one where he went on about his near-death experience (with help from the press, notably the Sun), and the later one where he U-turned and admitted he'd had a relatively mild case?AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Tue 07 Jun, 2022 11:32 am Hmmm, that poster does come across as a bit of a crank - "Freeman Of The Land" and similar stuff.
That was the point of the post, which appears to have escaped you . He was on a minimal amount of O2, nothing near the level justifying admission to ICU , and was conveniently out of circulation while FFS sitting up in bed and getting sympathy. The myth of his near-death experience persists to this day .
Good thing nothing urgent cropped up with Raab in charge !
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@Sky - thanks for that Spectator excerpt, very outspoken !
@Gilsey - is that from Sky's article, (paywall!) ?
I don't see how the 'new' diagnostic centres are not private too, as everything public is already stretched to breaking point ?
From twitter, and I can believe it, UK long covid clinics are more an intention than a reality, given the state of the NHS. There is also the problem of the wide variety of afflictions which each need specialist attention. From specialists already submerged by pre-covid waiting lists.
@Gilsey - is that from Sky's article, (paywall!) ?
I don't see how the 'new' diagnostic centres are not private too, as everything public is already stretched to breaking point ?
I don't know if Long Covidees are on that waiting list, but of the estimated 300,000 + more severe cases (out of two million) those of working age and previously working who now either cannot work or are limited to part-time working have had quite an effect on those employment figures . One friend and one daughter are now working 40 & 50% because of LC, accompanied by great fatigue, but only the daughter is still being followed for strange patches on her lungs ...In all the talk about over-50s dropping out of the labour market, haven't seen many pointing to a possible link with the 6m people on the NHS waiting list.
Sure many of those will already be retired but there'll be a big number of working age.
From twitter, and I can believe it, UK long covid clinics are more an intention than a reality, given the state of the NHS. There is also the problem of the wide variety of afflictions which each need specialist attention. From specialists already submerged by pre-covid waiting lists.
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The quote is just from the G Politics Live, Javid's presentation to Cabinet.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0set%20out
Re long Covid, did you see this piece
Care for 2m Britons with long Covid ‘woefully inadequate’, say top nurses
Long covid is often mentioned in connection with economic inactivity, the general NHS backlog not so much.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0set%20out
Re long Covid, did you see this piece
Care for 2m Britons with long Covid ‘woefully inadequate’, say top nurses
Warning of a “postcode lottery in access to care, it has also voiced concern that “diagnosis and treatment vary hugely across the UK, with long Covid treated as a physical condition in some clinics but predominantly as a psychological condition in others”.
Long covid is often mentioned in connection with economic inactivity, the general NHS backlog not so much.
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