Saturday 6th & Sunday 7th December 2014

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 1:16 pm

Yes, the latest Wintour puff piece is already being savaged btl

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 1:32 pm

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/ ... t-has-come
30 April 2010
General election 2010: The liberal moment has come
If the Guardian had a vote it would be cast enthusiastically for the Liberal Democrats.

www.leftfootforward.org/2010/08/guardia ... esurgence/
Aug 18 2010
Today’s ICM poll for the Guardian puts the Labour party on level terms with the Conservatives for the first time since October 2007. But as noted by UK Polling Report’s Anthony Wells, “the Guardian’s report concentrates upon the findings on the economy”. The topline number is buried on page seven of the paper and appears in the tenth paragraph of their online story.

Just watched an episode of Rev in which the local evangelicals came and offered money but for something that bore no resemblance to the core business of the local church. Reminded me very much of what's happened to the G, over the last five years.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 1:38 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
mbc1955 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote: His messianic complex will never let him admit that his day has passed.
Recently voted Least Self-Aware Human Being On The Planet for the seventeenth consecutive year (which is impressive whn you consider Simon Cowell's out there).
And Alan Titchmarsh

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 1:52 pm

WelshIan wrote:
I'm not sure if by voluntary you mean those making a 'lifestyle choice'? If you resign a job without a good reason then you can't get JSA for up to 6 months. Even with a good reason you may find it hard to claim!

In response to FOI requests, the DWP has figures for numbers of JSA claimants who have claimed for at least 10 years:

August 2012 - 1,070
Feb 2014 - 1,130

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... b-feb-2014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are these people voluntarily unemployed, though, and making a 'lifestyle choice'? We can't conclude that as there are a variety of factors in why they are unemployed. It would be interesting to have an age breakdown of when they 1st became unemployed as some of these may have been made redundant in their 50's and have not been able to get a job since because of their age.

edited to make last sentence read a bit better, I'm sure it could be improved again!

A few might be, but if you're out of employment it must (often) get harder and harder to get a job - both in terms of the psychology of the job seeker and the attitude of the potential employer. I'm guessing that the negative attitudes come from people assuming that people are unemployed out of choice, am trying to think about possible ways to tell the story. eg: how involuntary redundancy, self-service checkouts, outsourcing and offshoring, etc etc etc contribute to unemployment figures in UK.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 2:13 pm

Might it be possible to line up real, ordinary people to go on #CMG for an appointed half an hour to answer questions? Or something. You know, people who work for charities and food banks, or are firemen, teachers or whatever? Little question and answer concentrations for specific times within the rest of it.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 2:16 pm

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 2:56 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote: Is something that cute actually allowed?
If it helps get rid of the Tories? Hell yeah!!!
Last night I actually dreamt Cameron had stepped down and John Major had replaced him as Tory leader!!

Blimey, what were you eating before you went to bed.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 3:09 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
Sticky toffee pudding, as it happens.

Leaves me deeply conflicted. I love sticky toffee pudding more than words can possibly express, but am now worried about possible neurological impact.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 3:24 pm

It perplexes me that #WeLoveYourNewHairJustin ranks above #CameronMustGo

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 3:58 pm

Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:05 pm

giselle97 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Apparently "Tony Blair wants Chuka Umunna to be the next Labour leader"; well, that is his career finished, he may as well give up politics and take up basket weaving or cheese making. *

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

* Both of which, quite frankly, are more worthwhile careers than being a professional politician anyway.
Morning. I CAN'T STAND THAT CHUKA UMUNNA BLOKE. REMINDS ME OF CAMERON.

Sorry about the caps - quite intentional to emphasise my rage!

Totally agree with you giselle, I'm not keen on him either, much too Blairite.

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:05 pm

Sorry manners. Good afternoon all.

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:08 pm

mbc1955 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Apparently "Tony Blair wants Chuka Umunna to be the next Labour leader"; well, that is his career finished, he may as well give up politics and take up basket weaving or cheese making. *

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

* Both of which, quite frankly, are more worthwhile careers than being a professional politician anyway.
In a back-handed way, this is actually a tribute to the effectiveness of Ed Milliband in separating Labour from the arid wastelands of New Labour. By the time Ed gets in, Blair's legacy will be shredded.

Hmm, not thought of it like that mbc. You make a good point, even so, I don't want him as leader or anyone else of a Blairite persuasion. I want Labour to move on from Blair and the whole New Labour project.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:10 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

yes - for about half an hour or less a bit ago

Post by **refitman** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:10 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

AAW reported the site as unreachable, on Twitter, but I've been having no problems.

Looking at some other places, it looks like there was a DNS issue earlier (this stops your browser finding the site).

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:22 pm

George Osborne accused of giving tax breaks to Tories’ oil industry donors

A comment below the line:

"Corruption from top to the bottom and no word from opposition?"

Sub-title of the article:

'Labour Jon Ashworth calls for explanation over why Tories’ ‘big-money backers’ benefit from autumn statement'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... t#show-all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

theyareallthesame
LabourareTories
ILoveBigBrother
WarisPeace
DoublePlusGood

Lies

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:24 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

Yes it was down for about an hour for me

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:24 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

I logged in four hours ago - no troubles for me, AK.

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:24 pm

PorFavor wrote:Good afternoon.

Coaliton's NewBuy housing scheme is a 95 per cent failure, official figures reveal

A coalition plan to get 100,000 people on to the property ladder by helping them buy new-build properties has actually helped just over 5,000 individuals, official figures have revealed.

Labour said it now takes 22 years to save for a deposit on a typical first home, compared to three years in 1983 for low to middle-income households. (Independent)
Although it should be pointed out that a 95% failure is quite good by the standards of this government.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 08490.html

I see that the Guardian politics page has been dedicated to folk hero Nick Clegg.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure to avoid it.

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:28 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

Yes was for me about 1 hour ago.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:35 pm

With the MSM's failure to understand that social media has altered how people interact with information - and with it seeing technology merely as a way to generate clicks and not as a way to respond to the new ways in which content will now be generated, gathered and curated - it really looks as though it's in danger of precipitating its own demise. It's complete disrespect for its potential users is abundantly clear and - rather than brainwashing us as it hopes - is actively driving more and more of us elsewhere.

I can't wait.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 4:38 pm

Judge resigns after making racist remark about victim
Richard Hollingworth, who is an immigration judge, resigns as district judge after saying woman would ‘only be working in a shop’
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec ... llingworth

More of the slimy underbelly of the Establishment has been revealed ... I cannot understand how he can remain an immigration judge having resigned from being a district judge, presumably as a result of being under investigation for these remarks. Can't think of a worse area for him to be making judgements in ... not that there's a good one by the sound of this.

And some politicians - yes, Mrs May, you - still wonder why many of us are very suspicious and sceptical of these Establishment figures - or figures in power. It's because we know views like this are far too prevalent ...

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:08 pm

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tony husband @tonyhusband1 · Dec 6
cartoon

https://twitter.com/tonyhusband1/with_replies

giselle97 · Post by **giselle97** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:11 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Was this place unavailable for anybody else earlier?

Yes it was down for about an hour for me

I gave up after trying to reload when it just dropped out. The other tabs I had open away from FTN were working fine.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:20 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
RobertSnozers wrote: Last night I actually dreamt Cameron had stepped down and John Major had replaced him as Tory leader!!
Blimey, what were you eating before you went to bed.
Sticky toffee pudding, as it happens.

That'll do it every time.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:29 pm

Good Afternoon
Farage fails to turn up at UKIP bash in Wales on Saturday night.
It goes without saying the cause of the problem is according to him

"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration"

Delusional!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:30 pm

The ITV industrial dispute: everything that’s wrong with politics and the economy in Britain

http://leftfootforward.org/2014/12/the- ... more-91458

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:37 pm

rearofthestore wrote:Good Afternoon
Farage fails to turn up at UKIP bash in Wales on Saturday night.
It goes without saying the cause of the problem is according to him
"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration"
Delusional!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very glad he's getting exposed in this way (and not in any other I hasten to add). The more questions that are asked of him - the more bonkers, dodgy and here one minute, gone the next he and his 'policies' look.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:45 pm

rearofthestore wrote:Good Afternoon
Farage fails to turn up at UKIP bash in Wales on Saturday night.
It goes without saying the cause of the problem is according to him
"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration"
Delusional!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. They don't even bother with fake squirrels these days.

BBC "I see you've forgotten to do your flies up."
NF"Yes. That's entirely because the population is going through the roof. Chiefly because of open-door immigration."
BBC "True - it's very bad news for Ed Miliband."

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 5:48 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
rearofthestore wrote:Good Afternoon
Farage fails to turn up at UKIP bash in Wales on Saturday night.
It goes without saying the cause of the problem is according to him
"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration"
Delusional!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very glad he's getting exposed in this way (and not in any other I hasten to add). The more questions that are asked of him - the more bonkers, dodgy and here one minute, gone the next he and his 'policies' look.

Look, there is no point denying it Farage is bang on.

Every Friday evening the Welsh, who have been working perfectly legally over here, thanks to our lax immigration policies, stream back over the Severn Bridges to spend their weekend in Wales. Our Nigel was clearly caught up in the great Welsh migration.

Bloody Welsh coming over here taking our English jobs. I blame multiculturalism, for too long we have accepted their Stove Pipe hats, Druids and jumped up onions over here.

Nigel is right vote Welsh UKIP to keep the immigrants out.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:13 pm

"Sands are running out for Britain’s hourglass labour market
There’s work at the top and the bottom.
But without mid-level jobs, infrastructure won’t improve, and nor will the tax take"

The entire article is good - the final paragraph is here -

"Ultimately, if industries can see they have skills gaps, they must find their own ways to plug them. That means more apprenticeships and more work with schools to make careers in areas like construction and engineering more attractive. But just as importantly, employers must provide lifelong training opportunities to keep more people in fairly paid, productive work."

Katie Allen
The Observer, Sunday 7 December 2014

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... unning-out" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:17 pm

I'm off out to see Jon Richardson tonight but I'll leave you with this to keep you entertained on a cold December night.

#FarageBlamesImmigration

Twitter doing it proud.

Scott Reid ‏@scottreid1980 53 secs54 seconds ago

Don't blame it on the sunshine, moonlight, good times - blame it on immigration. #farageblamesimmigration

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:18 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
rearofthestore wrote:Good Afternoon
Farage fails to turn up at UKIP bash in Wales on Saturday night.
It goes without saying the cause of the problem is according to him Delusional!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very glad he's getting exposed in this way (and not in any other I hasten to add). The more questions that are asked of him - the more bonkers, dodgy and here one minute, gone the next he and his 'policies' look.
Look, there is no point denying it Farage is bang on.

Every Friday evening the Welsh, who have been working perfectly legally over here, thanks to our lax immigration policies, stream back over the Severn Bridges to spend their weekend in Wales. Our Nigel was clearly caught up in the great Welsh migration.

Bloody Welsh coming over here taking our English jobs. I blame multiculturalism, for too long we have accepted their Stove Pipe hats, Druids and jumped up onions over here.

Nigel is right vote Welsh UKIP to keep the immigrants out.

There was a tweet doing the rounds yesterday that went along the lines of ''Welcome to Wales, Nigel, now fuck off'' thanks to the heavily congested Saturday afternoon M4, yeah right, he didn't even have the grace to turn up, then fuck off.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:21 pm

Spacedone wrote:I'm off out to see Jon Richardson tonight but I'll leave you with this to keep you entertained on a cold December night.

#FarageBlamesImmigration

Twitter doing it proud.

Of all the social media around I've always had a soft spot for Twitter. Now I'm starting to love it.

Mermayden ‏@mermayden 5m5 minutes ago
#FarageBlamesImmigration Had to wait 3 minutes for a train. I would have blamed gay marriage but Farage has convinced me.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:25 pm

Andrew Shaw ‏@NewsWalrus 4m4 minutes ago
@mrjohnofarrell I went to a Polish Shop the other day. Not one single can of Turtle Wax #FarageBlamesImmigration

Who needs HIGNFY and that arrogant ...... Hislop (Ardingley College - Head Boy - and Oxford) when they've got twitter!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:28 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Spacedone wrote:I'm off out to see Jon Richardson tonight but I'll leave you with this to keep you entertained on a cold December night.

#FarageBlamesImmigration

Twitter doing it proud.
Of all the social media around I've always had a soft spot for Twitter. Now I'm starting to love it.

Mermayden ‏@mermayden 5m5 minutes ago
#FarageBlamesImmigration Had to wait 3 minutes for a train. I would have blamed gay marriage but Farage has convinced me.

David Starkey ‏@David5tarkey 18m18 minutes ago
#FarageBlamesImmigration and rightly so

Is this the real David Starkey? It's certainly nasty enough.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 6:41 pm

Kaya Burgess [Times] ‏@kayaburgess 1h1 hour ago
Wow @Nigel_Farage is starting to make David Icke look sensible by comparison. His excuse for missing a public Q&A: https://twitter.com/kayaburgess/status/ ... 41/photo/1

Kaya Burgess [Times] ‏@kayaburgess 1h1 hour ago
A Ukip recap: Flooding is caused by homosexuals + motorway tailbacks are caused by immigration. Next: Volcanic eruptions caused by feminism.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:09 pm

"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If there is a single person among the British population who thinks this juxtaposition makes any sense at all, then I am more worried about that than I am about Farage.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:13 pm

Paul Bernal ‏@PaulbernalUK 2h2 hours ago
Latest Dan Hodges column: how the @Trumpton_UKIP story is devastating for Ed Miliband.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:18 pm

Have we had

#NigelFarageBlamesImmigration for Trumpton Lovelace's Pekingese dogs

yet?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:20 pm

Premier Foods to reform system of demanding payments from suppliers
Food company faced criticism from government and industry over its terms on now scrapped pay-to-stay scheme
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... -suppliers

“Over the last few days it has become apparent that this mechanism has been widely misunderstood and misinterpreted,” said Gavin Darby, chief executive of Premier. “In this situation, we are fully prepared to simplify the details of our future programme to a more conventional type of discount negotiation, potentially based on price, value or volume-based rebates, or lump sums.”

They don't sound very apologetic, do they. Misunderstood and misinterpreted - my arse - it almost sounds as though they feel like the victims here. And looks like the suppliers are still going to be paying them ... just a new kind of listing 'mechanism'.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:21 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If there is a single person among the British population who thinks this juxtaposition makes any sense at all, then I am more worried about that than I am about Farage.

Apparently not just complaining about immigrants blocking the M4 but also complaining his Chauffeur is not provided by the state.

the Ukip leader complained that his chauffeur expenses had to be met by his party and not by the taxpayer

and

the fact is we don’t get help. Do I need, a, security? Yes. And do I need to be driven around from place to place? I think I probably do,” he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -reception" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
edited to include source.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:24 pm

rearofthestore wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
"That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-30370570" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If there is a single person among the British population who thinks this juxtaposition makes any sense at all, then I am more worried about that than I am about Farage.
Apparently not just complaining about immigrants blocking the M4 but also complaining his Chauffeur is not provided by the state.
the Ukip leader complained that his chauffeur expenses had to be met by his party and not by the taxpayer

and
the fact is we don’t get help. Do I need, a, security? Yes. And do I need to be driven around from place to place? I think I probably do,” he said.

UK has officially entered Twilight Zone.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:25 pm

In case anyone wants a list of the Premier Foods brands (I do as I'm going to do a foodbank shop soon ... and I will be making sure I don't touch any of their products).

Our Brands
Ambrosia
Batchelors
Bisto
Loyd Grossman
Mr. Kipling
OXO
Sharwood's

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:29 pm

Love this:

RougeTrooper
07 December 2014 5:40pm

Dear Mr Darby, Chief Executive of Premier Foods,
I am contacting you to inform you of our exciting plans to reduce the number of rapacious companies we buy products from. As part of this process, we are offering you the opportunity to invest in our grocery budget in order to remain on the list of those we buy from.
Just pop us a cheque in the post, there's a good chap.
Love and kisses

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:29 pm

Gail ‏@CharlieWoof81 · 1h1 hour ago
#CameronMustGo Q and A session - TEK Journalism UK http://www.tekjournalismuk.com/where-bu ... -a-session" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … interview with @jon_swindon about #CameronMustGo please RT

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:38 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:In case anyone wants a list of the Premier Foods brands (I do as I'm going to do a foodbank shop soon ... and I will be making sure I don't touch any of their products).

Our Brands
Ambrosia
Batchelors
Bisto
Loyd Grossman
Mr. Kipling
OXO
Sharwood's

Christmas does seem excellent time to stage a small boycott given the list could be quite painful this time of year.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:42 pm

Cheltenham Anti-Cuts ‏@CheltAntiCuts 9m9 minutes ago
Why is Farage on BBC so often? - Veteran BBC political producer Paul Lambert becomes UKIP`s communications director http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30366982" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Is anyone surprised?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:48 pm

In addition, Ashcroft said that half of those who have turned away from the Conservative say they are planning to vote for the eurosceptic UKIP party.

Ashcroft said the findings showed that Prime Minister David Cameron’s Conservatives are facing a “very uphill struggle” and the opposition Labour party is on the course to win a “comfortable” majority.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/09/2 ... r-support/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 7:52 pm

Goddessdeeva ‏@goddessdeeva 17m17 minutes ago
Breaking: #FarageBlamesImmigration for Mariah Careys lack of imagination where it comes to christmas gifts.