Friday 5th September 2014
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
No doubt Anatoly will be along later - in the G - to give us a round up with commentary.Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB 1h
UKIP GAIN from CON Folkestone Harvey C on Shepway
UKIP 287
CON 224
LD 198
LAB 196
GRN 96
TUSC 29
Farage's party doing well in Kent
Glad I don't live in Kent.
Working on the wild side.
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Good morning. Labour lead at 4 points on Yougov:
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 4th Sept -
Con 32%, (-1)
Lab 36%, (no change)
LD 7%, (no change)
UKIP 16%; (+2)
APP -25 (-2)
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 4th Sept -
Con 32%, (-1)
Lab 36%, (no change)
LD 7%, (no change)
UKIP 16%; (+2)
APP -25 (-2)
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Morning.
Boris not a shoe-in for Uxbridge ?
Local paper quotes a Tory there as saying
“Boris is not at all a shoe-in and he’s got a real fight on his hands now. David Simmonds is very popular around here, and Uxbridge’s kind of guy.
We don’t go in for flashy and we’ve never been interested in celebrated MPs…”
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Boris not a shoe-in for Uxbridge ?
Local paper quotes a Tory there as saying
“Boris is not at all a shoe-in and he’s got a real fight on his hands now. David Simmonds is very popular around here, and Uxbridge’s kind of guy.
We don’t go in for flashy and we’ve never been interested in celebrated MPs…”
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Morning all.
My birthday today so have a virtual piece of cake on me. I'm off to Sicily tomorrow so won't be around next week.
My birthday today so have a virtual piece of cake on me. I'm off to Sicily tomorrow so won't be around next week.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
It ran away. I've caught it and put it back again.yahyah wrote:Morning.
Boris not a shoe-in for Uxbridge ?
Local paper quotes a Tory there as saying
“Boris is not at all a shoe-in and he’s got a real fight on his hands now. David Simmonds is very popular around here, and Uxbridge’s kind of guy.
We don’t go in for flashy and we’ve never been interested in celebrated MPs…”
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Happy birthday Roger
Enjoy Sicily. Presume the Roman mosaics etc at Piazza Armerina one of your stop-offs?
Enjoy Sicily. Presume the Roman mosaics etc at Piazza Armerina one of your stop-offs?
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Happy Birthday Roger.RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
My birthday today so have a virtual piece of cake on me. I'm off to Sicily tomorrow so won't be around next week.
Have fun in Sicily.
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Thanks.yahyah wrote:Happy birthday Roger
Enjoy Sicily. Presume the Roman mosaics etc at Piazza Armerina one of your stop-offs?
No, not this time - went there when I last was in Sicily which, to my amazement, is 21 years ago!
I'm off to Agrigento, Solunto and Tyndaris and have a couple of days free in Palermo - Monreale is a definite...the mosaics in the cathedral are astonishing.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Happy Birthday Rog. Say "Ciao" to Salvo Montalbano if you see him.
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
My birthday today so have a virtual piece of cake on me. I'm off to Sicily tomorrow so won't be around next week.
Buon Compleanno!
Mine's an espresso and lemon polenta cake, please.
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HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
I was watching ITV last night and when I put the telly on just now it came on to Jeremy Kyle.
Having switched to BBC Parliament, I'm not sure there's a lot of difference.....
"Poverty is the worst form of violence" - Mahatma Gandhi
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Happy Birthday Roger - have fun on holidayRogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
My birthday today so have a virtual piece of cake on me. I'm off to Sicily tomorrow so won't be around next week.
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Happy Birthday to Roger from me, too.HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Watching the debate on Andrew George's Bill and I was rather p'd to see the motion to hear in private. Thought it was more of a time-wasting measure than anything else. Wish the Speaker would have insisted that Andrew George 'be heard' as I was having difficulty in hearing him introduce the Bill.
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LadyCentauria wrote:Happy Birthday to Roger from me, too.HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Watching the debate on Andrew George's Bill and I was rather p'd to see the motion to hear in private. Thought it was more of a time-wasting measure than anything else. Wish the Speaker would have insisted that Andrew George 'be heard' as I was having difficulty in hearing him introduce the Bill.
Hello,yes a time wasting tactic.They'll be more from the usual suspects.
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Good morning.
Happy birthday RogerOThornhill. Enjoy your holiday. - it sounds idyllic.
Happy birthday RogerOThornhill. Enjoy your holiday. - it sounds idyllic.
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Kerry McCarthy tweeted (about half an hour ago) "For those unfamiliar with Friday sittings, P Davies or Nuttall will soon start filibustering... and we will all lose the will to live.". She, like many of us, is frustrated at the pathetic holding tactics being used in Parliament and the media to protect IDS; and, yes, I do think Sparrow is as guilty of that as anybody, I'm more convinced than ever that editorial policy is to leave IDS alone.LadyCentauria wrote:Happy Birthday to Roger from me, too.HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Watching the debate on Andrew George's Bill and I was rather p'd to see the motion to hear in private. Thought it was more of a time-wasting measure than anything else. Wish the Speaker would have insisted that Andrew George 'be heard' as I was having difficulty in hearing him introduce the Bill.
COWER BRIEF MORTALS. HO. HO. HO.
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
It's Friday so I brought the cake & seeing as it's Roger's birthday, I decided to combine the two.
Happy birthday Roger & have a great holiday.
Welcome @LadyCentauria
Happy birthday Roger & have a great holiday.
Welcome @LadyCentauria
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Thanks. Yes, I was losing the will to live during Baldry's contribution. Giggled when someone referred to his, um, history lesson as "Baldrydash."TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Kerry McCarthy tweeted (about half an hour ago) "For those unfamiliar with Friday sittings, P Davies or Nuttall will soon start filibustering... and we will all lose the will to live.". She, like many of us, is frustrated at the pathetic holding tactics being used in Parliament and the media to protect IDS; and, yes, I do think Sparrow is as guilty of that as anybody, I'm more convinced than ever that editorial policy is to leave IDS alone.LadyCentauria wrote:Happy Birthday to Roger from me, too.HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Watching the debate on Andrew George's Bill and I was rather p'd to see the motion to hear in private. Thought it was more of a time-wasting measure than anything else. Wish the Speaker would have insisted that Andrew George 'be heard' as I was having difficulty in hearing him introduce the Bill.
And thanks, @pk1 for the welcome
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Hello and welcome LadyCentauriaLadyCentauria wrote:Happy Birthday to Roger from me, too.HindleA wrote:Happy Birthday Roger,enjoy your trip.
Andrew George's Bill being debated now on Parliament channel.Tories have already attempted to have the debate in private.
Watching the debate on Andrew George's Bill and I was rather p'd to see the motion to hear in private. Thought it was more of a time-wasting measure than anything else. Wish the Speaker would have insisted that Andrew George 'be heard' as I was having difficulty in hearing him introduce the Bill.
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
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Afternoon, did anyone see Gordon's speech this morning, and did he really say this, if so, good effort?!
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Populus:
Lab 38 (+2)
Con 32 (nc)
LD 8 (-1)
UKIP 14 (-1)
Oth 8 (nc).
Most unusual lately for a Friday Populus to be so favourable to Labour so enjoy but bear in mind that it might well be a sampling error.
Lab 38 (+2)
Con 32 (nc)
LD 8 (-1)
UKIP 14 (-1)
Oth 8 (nc).
Most unusual lately for a Friday Populus to be so favourable to Labour so enjoy but bear in mind that it might well be a sampling error.
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Labour lead went up on Friday a few weeks ago as well.pk1 wrote:Populus:
Lab 38 (+2)
Con 32 (nc)
LD 8 (-1)
UKIP 14 (-1)
Oth 8 (nc).
Most unusual lately for a Friday Populus to be so favourable to Labour so enjoy but bear in mind that it might well be a sampling error.
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Indeed. Which is odd, because Populus are on record as saying their weighting marks Labour down and UKIP up; so, even allowing for sampling errors, could the Clacton bandwagon be stuttering a little?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Labour lead went up on Friday a few weeks ago as well.pk1 wrote:Populus:
Lab 38 (+2)
Con 32 (nc)
LD 8 (-1)
UKIP 14 (-1)
Oth 8 (nc).
Most unusual lately for a Friday Populus to be so favourable to Labour so enjoy but bear in mind that it might well be a sampling error.
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Stephen Pound speaking now. Usually very good.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
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Procedurally stopped from speaking.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
FO, how/where are you following the parliamentary coverage?
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So many "facts" in that Nicky Morgan email.
Presumably most are explained by the simple fact that there are more children.
But the record low NEET figure. Hang on a mo!
Presumably most are explained by the simple fact that there are more children.
But the record low NEET figure. Hang on a mo!
Re: Friday 5th September 2014
It's on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/21006885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;ErnstRemarx wrote:FO, how/where are you following the parliamentary coverage?
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A quick check. It seems this is true only for 16-18 year olds, where of course the changes to the school leaving age have had a massive impact.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:So many "facts" in that Nicky Morgan email.
Presumably most are explained by the simple fact that there are more children.
But the record low NEET figure. Hang on a mo!
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I'm following it on Freeview 131 - BBC Parliament.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
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Re: Friday 5th September 2014
Closure Motion:
Ayes: 304
Noes: 237
Now dividing on Bill being read a 2nd Time
Ayes: 304
Noes: 237
Now dividing on Bill being read a 2nd Time
This time, I'm gonna be stronger I'm not giving in...
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Cheers Dan - will have a look.refitman wrote:It's on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/21006885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;ErnstRemarx wrote:FO, how/where are you following the parliamentary coverage?
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Of course, how silly of me! Might have a look in a mo. Bet my idiot MP's up to his usual loathsome tricks.frightful_oik wrote:I'm following it on Freeview 131 - BBC Parliament.
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Further thanks - and a belated welcome to you, LC, hope you find the place to your liking. Your locker is next to pk1's, the cafeteria is open until 8pm and bicycle hre can be arranged for a nominal fee.LadyCentauria wrote:Closure Motion:
Ayes: 304
Noes: 237
Now dividing on Bill being read a 2nd Time
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Was there something that happened just before they left power that might have raised unemployment?Labour were in power for 13 long years - and under them, schools standards fell and youth unemployment rose.
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...but please refrain from asking for the main gate to be opened as this may lead to a problem with your parliamentary career.ErnstRemarx wrote: Further thanks - and a belated welcome to you, LC, hope you find the place to your liking. Your locker is next to pk1's, the cafeteria is open until 8pm and bicycle hre can be arranged for a nominal fee.
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Ayes 306, Noes 231 - the Government have been defeated by 75 votes!!
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Good - be interesting to see how the FibDems voted.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ayes 306, Noes 231 - the Government have been defeated by 75 votes!!
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Thanks, Ernst! And thanks to @Angry, tooErnstRemarx wrote:Further thanks - and a belated welcome to you, LC, hope you find the place to your liking. Your locker is next to pk1's, the cafeteria is open until 8pm and bicycle hre can be arranged for a nominal fee.LadyCentauria wrote:Closure Motion:
Ayes: 304
Noes: 237
Now dividing on Bill being read a 2nd Time
Now voting to refer the Affordable Homes Bill to a Select Committee under Standing Order 63. Result of this division expected at 13.45
@Eric_WLothian: Am I allowed to climb the gate, instead?
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Well ...if you can do it without damaging the bike. Easier to use the pedestrian gate though, like the rest of us plebs!LadyCentauria wrote: @Eric_WLothian: Am I allowed to climb the gate, instead?
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Fibs were voting for it official line) 'twas a fibby that put it forwardErnstRemarx wrote:Good - be interesting to see how the FibDems voted.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ayes 306, Noes 231 - the Government have been defeated by 75 votes!!
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Another live debate
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Small class sizes - T Hunt speaking now just called some one a boiled cabbage? lol
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Small class sizes - T Hunt speaking now just called some one a boiled cabbage? lol
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''To quote Keynes, when the facts change, I do, what do you do''
Well, to quote me, I wouldn't have voted for it in the first ******* place!
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Well, to quote me, I wouldn't have voted for it in the first ******* place!
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Oops!AngryAsWell wrote:Another live debate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hous ... s-29039369" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Small class sizes - T Hunt speaking now just called some one a boiled cabbage? lol
Not a live debate, a recording, the debate was lost.
Labour's motion - which called for capital spending to be re-directed to areas where more places are needed - was rejected in a vote, by a majority of 96.
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Has anyone any idea how the LibDems, who attended voted? Going to find an old saucepan and that can be used as a spittoon as I read the list.