Monday 22nd December 2014

mbc1955 · Post by **mbc1955** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 12:53 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Am I alone in looking at this and thinking 'these are absolute must not haves' ... who the hell thinks these things up? Or am I just hopelessly far away from the rest of supposedly normal society?

Daily Mail Must Haves For This Christmas.jpg
The 'personalised Nutella jar' beggars belief.

No, no, calm down, calm down. These are must haves for Daily Mail readers. It has nothing to do with supposedly normal society at all.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:03 pm

mbc1955 wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Am I alone in looking at this and thinking 'these are absolute must not haves' ... who the hell thinks these things up? Or am I just hopelessly far away from the rest of supposedly normal society?

Daily Mail Must Haves For This Christmas.jpg
The 'personalised Nutella jar' beggars belief.
No, no, calm down, calm down. These are must haves for Daily Mail readers. It has nothing to do with supposedly normal society at all.

Thank you. That's very helpful. I was about to ask Mr Riots to buy me the 'Carvela leopard print pony leather heels' - and trying to convince him they are absolute must haves for the daily walk down the rutted and pot holed track to the postbox was going to be a difficult conversation.

Toby Latimer · Post by **Toby Latimer** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:04 pm

In which Iain Duncan Smith is hurled abuse (even his shoes come in for criticism ) [youtube]Gz7CpDmFA5s[/youtube]

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:17 pm

Near to exploding now ..... they've got Simon Danczuk's dad on Radio 4 now - because he's a floating voter considering going for Ukip.

This family seem to be serial self exposers. I don't want to see or hear anymore from them.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:22 pm

Nigel Farage slams 'pathetic' UKIP app made by schoolchildren
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 40100.html

Nigel Farage has condemned a phone app made by schoolchildren featuring a character called Nicholas Fromage kicking immigrants off the white cliffs of Dover.

The UKIP leader said the game where players kick immigrants as far as possible to gain the highest "racism" rating is "risible and pathetic" and "crosses the line"...

Hoist by their own petards. Love it.

I'm no good at embedding these new fangled things called apps .... but if anyone is a better apper than me .... please do let us see Nicholas Fromage in action.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:38 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Near to exploding now ..... they've got Simon Danczuk's dad on Radio 4 now - because he's a floating voter considering going for Ukip.

This family seem to be serial self exposers. I don't want to see or hear anymore from them.

Man of Polish heritage considering voting for UKIP, being an arsehole seems to run in that family.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:42 pm

mbc1955 wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Am I alone in looking at this and thinking 'these are absolute must not haves' ... who the hell thinks these things up? Or am I just hopelessly far away from the rest of supposedly normal society?

Daily Mail Must Haves For This Christmas.jpg
The 'personalised Nutella jar' beggars belief.
No, no, calm down, calm down. These are must haves for Daily Mail readers. It has nothing to do with supposedly normal society at all.

Surely the must have items for DM readers is this?

http://www.officeplayground.com/BS-Button-P1074.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Do you find yourself getting angry and outraged every time you read the Daily Mail? The BS Button is for you! Simply mash the button repeatedly as you read the headline and the BS Button will forcefully remind you that everything you are reading is bullshit. Medically proven to reduce the occurance of stress-induced stomach ulcers, high blood pressure and loss of tooth enamel."

Toby Latimer · Post by **Toby Latimer** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 1:49 pm

So when a ''rough diamond" uses "chinky" and "pooftah" it's understandable, but this satire of Kippers by some kids is 'crossing the line'

Nigel Farage has condemned a phone app made by schoolchildren featuring a character called Nicholas Fromage kicking immigrants off the white cliffs of Dover.
The UKIP leader said the game where players kick immigrants as far as possible to gain the highest "racism" rating is "risible and pathetic" and "crosses the line".

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Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:07 pm

Makes a change from sheep shaggers I suppose, seriously though, are UKIP the party for the clinically stupid?

Gay donkey attacking a horse..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 40230.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:11 pm

http://www.cipfa.org/about-cipfa/counci ... -next-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spending power for English councils is set to fall by significantly more than presented today by the Government, according to analysis released by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy (CIPFA).

CIPFA’s figures show that spending power for local authorities will fall by 6.0% in 2015/16 compared to 2014/15; this figure is more than three times greater than that presented by the Government today of 1.8%*. This analysis of the funding figures has been released in response to today's announcement of the provisional local government finance settlement.

The figures also show that while council spending power per head remains higher in more-deprived parts of the country, the gap continues to narrow as funding cuts are falling most heavily upon areas of the greatest need. At a regional level, spending power in London is set to fall by 8.0% and in the North East it is set to fall by 7.8%.

In contrast councils in the South East will see their spending power reduce by only 3.4% based upon CIPFA’s spending power measure.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:28 pm

citizenJA wrote:The man unsuccessfully attempts to take down Labour with his own party sinking into oblivion - is this about right or does someone have better analysis?

That is a sounder, and more succinct, analysis than that put forward by Ashcroft himself.

DonutHingeParty · Post by **DonutHingeParty** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:29 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Makes a change from sheep shaggers I suppose, seriously though, are UKIP the party for the clinically stupid?

Gay donkey attacking a horse..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 40230.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know it's UKIP, and maybe I'm just too gorged on a diet of racism and ignorance, but I find it hard not to take from this clip that this was said more as an amusing anecdote and in a spirit of bemusement than righteous bigotry - he does go on to say "I don't see the attraction myself [in homosexuality], but live and let live,"

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:38 pm

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 2:41 pm

Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The number of homicides in London could fall below 100 in a year for the first time in more than 40 years, according to the Met Police.

There have been 93 homicides since January 2014, compared with more than 200 from January to December in 2001.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 3:26 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ation.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Both parties? Really Frank!?!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 3:35 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The number of homicides in London could fall below 100 in a year for the first time in more than 40 years, according to the Met Police.

There have been 93 homicides since January 2014, compared with more than 200 from January to December in 2001.

Whatever happened to that "OMG! All the kids have knives!!!" stuff?

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 3:36 pm

UKIK
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... k&hl=en_GB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Description
Dear Great Britain,
Do foreign voices on trains scare you? Can you handle a European living next door? Does your wife refuse to clean behind the fridge? Do you think women are too stupid to win a game of chess or have a top level job?
If you are feeling irrational and want to live in a right wing hell hole then vote UKIK this May. These people might improve our economy, contribute to our culture and make Britain great but they are different to us so let’s kick them all out!
Yours,
Nicolas Fromage
UKIK Party- Representing Fruitcakes & Loonies everywhere

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 3:44 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The number of homicides in London could fall below 100 in a year for the first time in more than 40 years, according to the Met Police.

There have been 93 homicides since January 2014, compared with more than 200 from January to December in 2001.
Whatever happened to that "OMG! All the kids have knives!!!" stuff?

It's a meaningless figure - maybe more victims got to hospital quicker, or had better treatment. Has the figure for violent crime gone down?

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 3:59 pm

Eric_WLothian wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Whatever happened to that "OMG! All the kids have knives!!!" stuff?
It's a meaningless figure - maybe more victims got to hospital quicker, or had better treatment. Has the figure for violent crime gone down?

Won't stop the Tories using the figures as justification for cutting the police budget if they win the next election

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:02 pm

News rather than politics: Dust-cart crashes into pedestrians at ~~Museum~~ Gallery of Modern Art in Queen St Glasgow then ploughed on up street into Millenium hotel at George Square, Glasgow. There are a number of dead and injured. Police Scotland are asking shoppers to phone their families to take pressure off their phone lines. Pure awful

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:11 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The number of homicides in London could fall below 100 in a year for the first time in more than 40 years, according to the Met Police.

There have been 93 homicides since January 2014, compared with more than 200 from January to December in 2001.
Whatever happened to that "OMG! All the kids have knives!!!" stuff?

And the gangster "culture"- or as some of us might say, a small number of people being gangsters.

You get some America gun nutters claim that we have some extraordinary number of murders by stabbing.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:12 pm

Graun's politics page has reverted to the old style - for now.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:15 pm

Eric_WLothian wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Crime ridden shithole latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30577385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Whatever happened to that "OMG! All the kids have knives!!!" stuff?
It's a meaningless figure - maybe more victims got to hospital quicker, or had better treatment. Has the figure for violent crime gone down?

The Met themselves estimate about 18% percent of people who would have died in the (presumably recent) past are saved by treatment nowadays.

I always think the murder figures is one of the most meaningful figures. Usually we find out about it, and it pretty much means the same thing through time. Robberies can easily be treated as thefts or vice versa.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:20 pm

LadyCentauria wrote:News rather than politics: Dust-cart crashes into pedestrians at Museum of Modern Art in Queen St Glasgow then ploughed on up street into Millenium hotel at George Square, Glasgow. There are a number of dead and injured. Police Scotland are asking shoppers to phone their families to take pressure off their phone lines. Pure awful

That is dreadful. Scotland has had too many of these tragic events around Christmas time.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:21 pm

Murder stats presumably still vary quite a bit between boroughs.

From 2011.

Lambeth had 79 in 5 years. 2.5 times Tower Hamlets.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... london-map" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:22 pm

StephenDolan wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ation.html

Both parties? Really Frank!?!

Sometimes I really wish they'd 'withdraw the whip' from that bloody man! Grrr!

Post by **refitman** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 4:53 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Near to exploding now ..... they've got Simon Danczuk's dad on Radio 4 now - because he's a floating voter considering going for Ukip.

This family seem to be serial self exposers. I don't want to see or hear anymore from them.

I did hear that. You would think his son would put him right about "people getting £26k for doing nothing".

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:05 pm

Pamela Nash MP retweeted
euan mccolm ‏@euanmccolm 13m13 minutes ago
jim murphy, who ran in to the clutha to help, is receiving some vile abuse for daring to express concern about today's tragedy in glasgow.

What is the matter with these people?

Post by **refitman** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:08 pm

I see Hugo has changed his name to Herbert.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:12 pm

refitman wrote:I see Hugo has changed his name to Herbert.

He changed sex for a couple of days but is male again.

I do wonder whether the mods know where he's posting from which is why he keeps getting zapped.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:14 pm

This has chancers written all over it.

School already improving handed over to ARK in 2012. Playing fields sold. Gove keeps advice (which he overruled) secret for 2 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30529187" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:36 pm

Owen Jones talks some rubbish sometimes.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... yriza-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here in Britain, Syriza already represents a warning to Labour. The explosion in Syriza’s popularity has everything to do with Labour’s sister party in Greece, Pasok, coming to power and unleashing austerity on its own supporters. The consequence? Pasok is now on about 5% in the opinion polls. In Britain, some polls already have the Greens on up to 9%, and that’s before a Labour government that implements cuts has assumed power.

Bit of a difference in degree, and the fact the UK has its own currency possibly relevant here?

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:40 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
refitman wrote:I see Hugo has changed his name to Herbert.
He changed sex for a couple of days but is male again.

I do wonder whether the mods know where he's posting from which is why he keeps getting zapped.

Could just have something to do with the fact he makes no attempt to hide who he is and everybody greets him with "Hi Hugo"; even the Mods can pick up clues like that! The CCHQ 'turfers like Rusty, HavingALaugh, Critias etc do make a token attempt to maintain a new 'voice', at least for the first day or so, which is why they get away with it for longer; always funny when they slip up though, like the time when 'Rusty' posted an 'OpenSeas' comment.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:43 pm

Greece has a "grand coalition" with PASOK the junior partner to the centre right New Democracy.

It doesn't take a genius to work out the possible outcome of that when said government is carrying out MASSIVE cuts (far bigger than even Osborne has planned)

And since the likelihood of a Tory/Lab coalition here outside war conditions is close to zero, Jones is indeed talking bollix.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:48 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
refitman wrote:I see Hugo has changed his name to Herbert.
He changed sex for a couple of days but is male again.

I do wonder whether the mods know where he's posting from which is why he keeps getting zapped.
Could just have something to do with the fact he makes no attempt to hide who he is and everybody greets him with "Hi Hugo"; even the Mods can pick up clues like that! The CCHQ 'turfers like Rusty, HavingALaugh, Critias etc do make a token attempt to maintain a new 'voice', at least for the first day or so, which is why they get away with it for longer; always funny when they slip up though, like the time when 'Rusty' posted an 'OpenSeas' comment.

Genuine LOL!

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 5:54 pm

Letsskip - looking at your neck of the woods I see that Alan Williams, former Father of the House, has died.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:02 pm

Leave us ‘toffs’ to hunt legally in peace
Labour’s ban has nothing to do with animal welfare: it is class war directed at the thousands, like me, who will again be out in our red coats today
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -red-coats

Shows the extent of the warped sense of victimhood ... 'nothing to do with animal welfare' .... complete rubbish and very offensive. But the article is shot full of poor logic, baseless accusations, and contradictions.

The attitude here screams out why we can't have the Tories back in government.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:10 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Letsskip - looking at your neck of the woods I see that Alan Williams, former Father of the House, has died.

Yes, read about it earlier, only stood down in 2010 too, long career, under quite a few PMs..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-30578603" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:12 pm

Joe Cocker has died after a battle with lung cancer
http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update ... ng-cancer/

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:13 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Leave us ‘toffs’ to hunt legally in peace
Labour’s ban has nothing to do with animal welfare: it is class war directed at the thousands, like me, who will again be out in our red coats today
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -red-coats
Shows the extent of the warped sense of victimhood ... 'nothing to do with animal welfare' .... complete rubbish and very offensive. But the article is shot full of poor logic, baseless accusations, and contradictions.

The attitude here screams out why we can't have the Tories back in government.

Went to have a look & got this:

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Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:18 pm

danesclose wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Leave us ‘toffs’ to hunt legally in peace
Labour’s ban has nothing to do with animal welfare: it is class war directed at the thousands, like me, who will again be out in our red coats today
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -red-coats
Shows the extent of the warped sense of victimhood ... 'nothing to do with animal welfare' .... complete rubbish and very offensive. But the article is shot full of poor logic, baseless accusations, and contradictions.

The attitude here screams out why we can't have the Tories back in government.
Went to have a look & got this:

guardian.jpg

Presumably meant to be published on Boxing Day, when all the hunts are out lording it over the peasantry.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:19 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Joe Cocker has died after a battle with lung cancer
http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update ... ng-cancer/

Sad news.

[youtube]4RnjWLVyMps[/youtube]

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:26 pm

Toby Latimer wrote:In which Iain Duncan Smith is hurled abuse (even his shoes come in for criticism ) [youtube]Gz7CpDmFA5s[/youtube]

Love it....

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:27 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:
danesclose wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: Shows the extent of the warped sense of victimhood ... 'nothing to do with animal welfare' .... complete rubbish and very offensive. But the article is shot full of poor logic, baseless accusations, and contradictions.

The attitude here screams out why we can't have the Tories back in government.
Went to have a look & got this:

guardian.jpg
Presumably meant to be published on Boxing Day, when all the hunts are out lording it over the peasantry.

I hate them. I fucking hate them.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:32 pm

Iain Dale @IainDale · 7h 7 hours ago
New Blog by me: General Election Predictions 4: Cambridgeshire: This is the fourth in a series of blogposts (s... http://bit.ly/1vg5gN2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He's giving Cambridge as a narrow Labour gain ... despite Julian Huppert's popularity and incumbency.

He's saying Peterborough will stay Conservative - shame, it looks as though it's worth a real scrap for.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 6:34 pm

refitman wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Near to exploding now ..... they've got Simon Danczuk's dad on Radio 4 now - because he's a floating voter considering going for Ukip.

This family seem to be serial self exposers. I don't want to see or hear anymore from them.
I did hear that. You would think his son would put him right about "people getting £26k for doing nothing".

My first and immediate thought was the BBC are making mischief again and I was even more sure when his dad said he was probably voting UKIP.

Danczuk should have been too embarrassed to let them air it. But wasn't: even sort of agreed. Hope the voters send him on his way in 2015/

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 7:00 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Iain Dale @IainDale · 7h 7 hours ago
New Blog by me: General Election Predictions 4: Cambridgeshire: This is the fourth in a series of blogposts (s... http://bit.ly/1vg5gN2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He's giving Cambridge as a narrow Labour gain ... despite Julian Huppert's popularity and incumbency.

He's saying Peterborough will stay Conservative - shame, it looks as though it's worth a real scrap for.

I still reckon its all to play for in Peterborough, and I think Cambridge will be a lot more decisive than Dale thinks, they've interesting enough reads but he's starting off with the easy ones, Essex, Suffolk and so on, I'm waiting for the Midlands and parts of Yorkshire, plenty of meat on the bones for Labour in those areas.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 7:04 pm

Pretty obvious these days what Ashcroft and Tim Montgomery think of The Empty One.

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rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 7:05 pm

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Badger Trust Christmas Message

The Badger Trust would like to wish all our members a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

We would also like to thank you for the support you have given us throughout the year and look forward to next year when we hope badgers will have a silent night forever.

Sort of got to me.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 22 Dec, 2014 7:06 pm

mbc1955 wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Am I alone in looking at this and thinking 'these are absolute must not haves' ... who the hell thinks these things up? Or am I just hopelessly far away from the rest of supposedly normal society?

Daily Mail Must Haves For This Christmas.jpg
The 'personalised Nutella jar' beggars belief.
No, no, calm down, calm down. These are must haves for Daily Mail readers. It has nothing to do with supposedly normal society at all.

I bet most Daily Mail readers scoff at that crap too - I think that kind of spam advertising makes money off the small fraction of dedicated personalised Nutella jar purchasers.

The ad block I use is a wonderful tool. The creator of the ad block extension for my browser asks for donations to fund the work to keep unsightly ads from dogging my Internet perusal. I literally pay to avoid advertising. Crazy.