Wednesday 7th February 2024

[refitman]

Morning all.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Oh dear, Sunak excelled himself at PMQs.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Absolutely grim from Sunak.

And a thing that seems to being missed here is that in his non apology statement at the end of PMQS Sunak referred to Brianna Ghey as 'her'.

So on the one hand it would appear he's happy to refer to her using a female pronoun, while on the other he's mocking Starmer for not knowing what a woman is.

It's crass, thoughtless, and contradictory all at the same time.

[AnatolyKasparov]

He's trying to have it both ways and annoying everybody. Which is very typical of him.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

I don't say this often but well done Dan Hodges and Tom Harwood.

While many of the usual, odious suspects are defending Sunak those two appear to be the only Tory pundits showing an ounce of humanity and calling him out.

[refitman]

I assume Starmer will be censuring Rosie Duffield any day now.

[AnatolyKasparov]

I think it may be possible to be too cynical about today - it might just be this depressing saga's "Sir, have you really no sense of decency?" moment.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

I think it may be possible to be too cynical about today - it might just be this depressing saga's "Sir, have you really no sense of decency?" moment.

Let's hope so but from what I can see all it seems to have done, outside of a few honourable exceptions, is entrench both sides.

One thing that's not getting much of a mention is how visibly angry Starmer was and how well he handled it, credit where credit's due.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Wow, apparently Badenoch went rogue.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

How indeed. Maybe it's just me but this feels pretty terminal for Sunak, he's not going to be able to live this down. He's been egged on by the right of his party and the rightwing press to fight these horrible culture wars and look where it's got him.

[AnatolyKasparov]

I think it may be possible to be too cynical about today - it might just be this depressing saga's "Sir, have you really no sense of decency?" moment.

Let's hope so but from what I can see all it seems to have done, outside of a few honourable exceptions, is entrench both sides.

One thing that's not getting much of a mention is how visibly angry Starmer was and how well he handled it, credit where credit's due.

Not my impression really, only the hardest of hardcore anti-trans elements seem to be backing Sunak on this.

(apart from those amongst their number who, incredibly, got the most upset about Sunak referring to Brianna as "she")

When you have lost the likes of Sonia Sodha, stop digging.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

When you have lost the likes of Sonia Sodha, stop digging.

When Sonia Sodha condemns Sunak then gets a load of abuse for it, not from the right and transphobes, but from those advocating trans rights, she really isn't the problem.

It's utterly depressing.