AK "Actually, the effect that Stein had on that election is still debated.
It may have made some difference, but not as obviously as Nader did in 2000."
Agreed . Not all Stein people would have voted Clinton rather than stay at home or very unlikely vote Trump !
Stein's 2016 campaign was heavily promoted by RT. She hasn't spoken much about the RT dinner, but in an interview with NBC News last fall, she deflected questions about her appearance, instead chastising the U.S. media for not paying attention to her campaign while RT gave it a lot more attention.
"And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald.
(Stein did well enough to help Russia achieve its aims. Her vote totals in the crucial states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan were all greater than Clinton's margin of defeat, and arguably denied Clinton an Electoral College victory.)
Trashfuture have talked about The Cass Report this week. After all the talk from politicians and the media, it's nice to have actual trans people talking about their opinions of it https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-2r6xy-15e394f
Ah, this is sad. I hope her final days are comfortable and worthwhile.
Re: Wednesday 17th April 2024
Posted: Wed 17 Apr, 2024 4:55 pm
by gilsey
Sad news from ephe.
It's my SIL's funeral today and we're not there because we're abroad on hols for the first time in 4 years, I don't think she'd have wanted us to cancel it.
Mr gilsey is feeling a bit discomfited, but they weren't very close and she'd been unwell for a while.
Hasta la vista.
Re: Wednesday 17th April 2024
Posted: Wed 17 Apr, 2024 5:22 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Starmer does seem quite confident about his deputy, doesn't he.
Re: Wednesday 17th April 2024
Posted: Wed 17 Apr, 2024 7:09 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Oh hello. I appear to have been missing in action for a while.
Anyway, this is...amusing. Reminds me of another one in the news lately who put a fake Churchill quote on the wall of her school...