Wednesday 14th January 2015

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 5:53 pm

Spacedone wrote:
Tonibel wrote:Don't know if this has been mentioned but today's Independent implies that TTIP is in trouble. (Sorry must practice inserting links.)
Welcome Tonibel!

Is this the link you were thinking about?

TTIP: Activists triumph as contentious US free trade deal clause suspended
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76090.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“The consultation clearly shows that there is a huge scepticism about the ISDS instrument,” Cecilia Malmstrom, the EU Trade Commissioner, admitted yesterday. “We need to have an open and frank discussion about investment protection and ISDS in TTIP with EU governments, the European Parliament and civil society before launching any policy recommendations.”
How do you have an open and frank discussion about something that is being negotiated secretly?

Precisely!

daydreamer · Post by **daydreamer** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:08 pm

well, night all

Early to bed I think, as this headache and sore neck I've had all day hasn't shifted

even with painkillers. Unless you think chocolate might do some good *she says hopefully*

Thanks to all for keeping me and my poor aching head company

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:14 pm

yahyah wrote:A Kipper on Radio 4 claiming up to five Labour MPs are talking to them.

Heard that - and said to myself - 'well they would, wouldn't they?'. And shortly afterwards the interviewer said that Labour categorically denied it.

Who knows what UKIP class as 'talking to them'. Standing next to each other at the HoC or Reform Club urinals and passing the time of day?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:16 pm

daydreamer wrote:well, night all Early to bed I think, as this headache and sore neck I've had all day hasn't shifted even with painkillers. Unless you think chocolate might do some good *she says hopefully*

Thanks to all for keeping me and my poor aching head company

Thank you for keeping us company and entertained. Hope your head and neck improve.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:28 pm

If Al Murray of the FUKP needs an agent ... Hobiejoe might be able to help out. 1p a pint - that's some pledge. I'm guessing it will be only in pubs.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:28 pm

Just what is going on with Gideon?

https://sdbast.wordpress.com/2015/01/14 ... th-gideon/

He does look in a bit of a state doesn't he.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:28 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
GENERAL ELECTION PREDICTIONS 66: GREATER MANCHESTER A-E
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/1 ... um=twitter
Seats: 10
Current Political Makeup: Con 2, Lab 7, LibDem 1
Predicted Political Makeup after May 7: Con 2, Lab 8
Labour gaining Bury North from Conservatives, Conservatives gaining Cheadle from Lib Dems.

GENERAL ELECTION PREDICTIONS 67: GREATER MANCHESTER F-M
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/1 ... um=twitter
Seats: 7
Current Political Makeup: Lab 5, LibDem 2
Predicted Political Makeup after May 7: Con 1, Lab 5, UKIP 1
Predicting:
UKIP gain Heywood & Middleton from Labour
Labour gain Manchester Withington from Lib Dems
Conservative gain Hazel Grove from Lib Dems

Two comments to make - Bury North is closer than it looks, but I suspect we'll win it, even if our candidate is a complete twat, and Heywood and Middleton - no, UKIP won't take it. By elections are *not* like general elections. In a by, you can indulge a flight of fancy, safe inthe knowledge it won't affect the government (except in terms of morale, perhaps); in a general election you're electing your MP for the next 4-5 years, and thus protest votes are less evident.

That's why even the current (approx) 16-18% for UKIP is probably bollocks - expect something more like 9-12% in May.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:31 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Just what is going on with Gideon?

https://sdbast.wordpress.com/2015/01/14 ... th-gideon/
He does look in a bit of a state doesn't he.

I'm with whoever it was posted earlier that he might have been looking at Natalie Rowe's twitter timeline yesterday. That should give him some very sleepless nights.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:31 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Just what is going on with Gideon?

https://sdbast.wordpress.com/2015/01/14 ... th-gideon/
He does look in a bit of a state doesn't he.

He gave a speech somewhere last week, at a company venue if I remember and he looked very bright eyed and lively, unnaturally so some may say.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:32 pm

yahyah wrote:A Kipper on Radio 4 claiming up to five Labour MPs are talking to them.

"So...what policies are you coming up with to try and tempt our voters....er....so that we might be tempted to join you...oh?...I'll make a note of that...cheers!"

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:33 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
GENERAL ELECTION PREDICTIONS 66: GREATER MANCHESTER A-E
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/1 ... um=twitter
Seats: 10
Current Political Makeup: Con 2, Lab 7, LibDem 1
Predicted Political Makeup after May 7: Con 2, Lab 8
Labour gaining Bury North from Conservatives, Conservatives gaining Cheadle from Lib Dems.

GENERAL ELECTION PREDICTIONS 67: GREATER MANCHESTER F-M
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/1 ... um=twitter
Seats: 7
Current Political Makeup: Lab 5, LibDem 2
Predicted Political Makeup after May 7: Con 1, Lab 5, UKIP 1
Predicting:
UKIP gain Heywood & Middleton from Labour
Labour gain Manchester Withington from Lib Dems
Conservative gain Hazel Grove from Lib Dems
Two comments to make - Bury North is closer than it looks, but I suspect we'll win it, even if our candidate is a complete twat, and Heywood and Middleton - no, UKIP won't take it. By elections are *not* like general elections. In a by, you can indulge a flight of fancy, safe inthe knowledge it won't affect the government (except in terms of morale, perhaps); in a general election you're electing your MP for the next 4-5 years, and thus protest votes are less evident.

That's why even the current (approx) 16-18% for UKIP is probably bollocks - expect something more like 9-12% in May.

I thought you might have something good to say about these particular predictions Ernst. And you haven't disappointed.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:34 pm

Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 13m13 minutes ago
To everybody asking: No, I am not the @MirrorChicken. Too tall for the feathered suit...

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:34 pm

Sun corruption trial: Defence barrister warned over “political comment ”

http://hackinginquiry.org/latest-news/s ... l-comment/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:36 pm

Rob Ford (Britain) ‏@robfordmancs 3h3 hours ago
***Breaking*** Cameron says will only agree to debates if "significant new entrant" Al "Pub Landlord" Murray is included

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:49 pm

Jeepers. If what we can hear raging outside now is a sign of weather to come .... we'll be battening down the hatches double tight. It's Wizard of Oz style winds.

Going to check out the seaside cottage I look after tomorrow. That should be interesting.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:53 pm

Spacedone wrote:
Tonibel wrote:Don't know if this has been mentioned but today's Independent implies that TTIP is in trouble. (Sorry must practice inserting links.)
Welcome Tonibel!

Is this the link you were thinking about?

TTIP: Activists triumph as contentious US free trade deal clause suspended
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76090.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“The consultation clearly shows that there is a huge scepticism about the ISDS instrument,” Cecilia Malmstrom, the EU Trade Commissioner, admitted yesterday. “We need to have an open and frank discussion about investment protection and ISDS in TTIP with EU governments, the European Parliament and civil society before launching any policy recommendations.”
How do you have an open and frank discussion about something that is being negotiated secretly?

About the use of an ISDS, I presume.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:56 pm

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 1h 1 hour ago
Al Murray’s South Thanet bid looks like an effort to stop Nigel Farage http://bit.ly/1KK6nyO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 6:57 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Can you all get in touch with Lucas again, please? This Daily Mail link has fuller quotes and is not paywall.

We really need to get this changed. Try the SNP too.

Mr Johnson said: " Under autumn statement plans, Conservatives could be cutting unprotected budgets by 26% after 2015-16, or an extraordinary 41% over the whole period from 2010.
"Even merely to meet their more modest fiscal target, these budgets would need to be cut by more than 15% after 2015-16. Labour would need to implement cuts of only 3%.
"All of this, of course, points to another big difference. If Labour is spending more - and if it doesn't raise taxes - it will be borrowing more and, perhaps more important, presiding over a greater burden of debt.
"The effect of this might be relatively modest in the short term, but borrowing as much as their rule would allow beyond 2020 would mean national debt about £170 billion higher (in today's terms) by the end of the 2020s than would be achieved through a balanced budget.
"So, even if Labour does keep spending cuts to a minimum over the next parliament, further tax increases or spending cuts might prove necessary down the line to reduce risks with the long-term state of the public finances further."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/art ... z3OoeSANsM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
That sums up what Lucas has fallen to.

Less truthful than the Daily Mail.

I am depressed.

Please note: anybody emoji hugging me will get slapped.

To be fair, Ed Balls said at the Conference no new borrowing for investment. Looks like someone had a word, and now they're all talking about current spending. So you can understand Lucas thinking policy as it was.

But very clearly, there was no vote on "£30bn cuts" yesterday.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:00 pm

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Party membership figures: Lab 190,000, Con 149,800, SNP 92,000, Lib Dems 44,576, Ukip 41,514, Greens 40,789. http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Green Party membership on course to overtake Ukip's as it reaches nearly 41,000 http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:04 pm

House price annual inflation was 10.4% in England, 3.1% in Wales, 4.4% in Scotland and 11.7% in Northern Ireland.

House prices continue to increase strongly across the majority of the UK, with prices in London again showing the highest growth.

Annual house price increases in England were driven by an annual increase in London of 15.3% and to a lesser extent increases in the East (11.9%) and the South East (10.8%).

Excluding London and the South East, UK house prices increased by 7.1% in the 12 months to November 2014.

In November 2014, prices paid by first-time buyers were 11.0% higher on average than in November 2013. For owner-occupiers (existing owners), prices increased by 9.5% for the same period.

(my bold)

This isn't a good thing. At all. How much did wages increase? Osborne was crowing this morning about benefits of low inflation (deflation)?

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/hpi/house ... -2014.html

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:09 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Party membership figures: Lab 190,000, Con 149,800, SNP 92,000, Lib Dems 44,576, Ukip 41,514, Greens 40,789. http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Green Party membership on course to overtake Ukip's as it reaches nearly 41,000 http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I was listening to R4 on the way home from work and they had a clip of Natalie Bennett saying that all the other party leaders should be pressuring the media to include the Greens and I did have a fleeting thought that perhaps demanding that they use their 'influence' to get you invited isn't a great advertisement for you if you want to be taken seriously as a major party.

Post by **refitman** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:11 pm

@Martinson - welcome back!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:12 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Party membership figures: Lab 190,000, Con 149,800, SNP 92,000, Lib Dems 44,576, Ukip 41,514, Greens 40,789. http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Green Party membership on course to overtake Ukip's as it reaches nearly 41,000 http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd like to know where those Tory membership figures came from.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:13 pm

Tough talk on bins exposed as rubbish after NO councils sign up to £250million fund to restore weekly collections
Stoke-on-Trent Council awarded £14.3m from £250m bin collection fund
Now council says 'massive budget cuts' mean money won't cover service
Eric Pickles called weekly bin collection a 'fundamental right'
Average black bag rubbish collection wait is 12 days
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nsive.html

Pickles - please make him a has bin by May 8th.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:15 pm

Carrying on from yesterdays attempts to shut the mouths of a few stupid [and sadly, supposedly Labour] Tweeters.

http://www.iandavidsonmp.com/news/1970- ... pantomime/

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:19 pm

Spacedone wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Party membership figures: Lab 190,000, Con 149,800, SNP 92,000, Lib Dems 44,576, Ukip 41,514, Greens 40,789. http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Green Party membership on course to overtake Ukip's as it reaches nearly 41,000 http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was listening to R4 on the way home from work and they had a clip of Natalie Bennett saying that all the other party leaders should be pressuring the media to include the Greens and I did have a fleeting thought that perhaps demanding that they use their 'influence' to get you invited isn't a great advertisement for you if you want to be taken seriously as a major party.

I'm much more worried by the lack of ability to see that it's wrong for any politician to be influencing / demanding which party or parties are represented and how during an election campaign. It should be a decision taken away from political influence - surely that's what press impartiality, balance and freedom is all about. I don't like any of these demands - regardless of where they emanate from. Legally challenge the Ofcom decision if you want to ... that seems fair process ... but don't pressurise broadcasters or ask other political parties to pressurise broadcasters.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:21 pm

@RebbecaRiots2

Well said.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:30 pm

: How Eric Talked Tough.jpg (82.88 KiB) Viewed 12984 times

Pissing myself at the absolute patheticness (is that even a word?) of this. Are there really people enduring a hell because their chicken tikka masala remains aren't collected the next day? Really? Well if they are, they shouldn't bloody be ordering more tikka than they can eat then - should they Pickles - yes, I'm looking at you Pickles, at you.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:33 pm

"Excluding London and the South East, the average UK mix-adjusted house price was £207,000."

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/hpi/house ... nd-Regions

Insane.

Average mix-adjusted house price definition fairly readable on the website link below

https://www.gov.uk/housing-market-and-h ... efinitions

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 7:45 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Carrying on from yesterdays attempts to shut the mouths of a few stupid [and sadly, supposedly Labour] Tweeters.

http://www.iandavidsonmp.com/news/1970- ... pantomime/

That's a good, strong piece Ohso. Thanks for the link.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 8:04 pm

citizenJA wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Party membership figures: Lab 190,000, Con 149,800, SNP 92,000, Lib Dems 44,576, Ukip 41,514, Greens 40,789. http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 3h 3 hours ago
Green Party membership on course to overtake Ukip's as it reaches nearly 41,000 http://bit.ly/1FW6V4M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd like to know where those Tory membership figures came from.

Grant Shapps?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 8:04 pm

Paul Breckell ‏@pbreckell 2h2 hours ago
NEW Devon CCG abandon plans to only provide one hearing aid for people with hearing loss in both ears after @ActionOnHearing campaign

Thank whoever for that! Ben Bradshaw amongst others.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 8:09 pm

Austin Mitchell ‏@AVMitchell2010 29m29 minutes ago London, England
Cut the crap Low inflation is no substitute for growth.It merely.makes the prison cell a little warmer

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 8:19 pm

The Media Blog @TheMediaTweets · 5h 5 hours ago
Will Al Murray now get his own BBC show, like Nigel Farage's Thursday night 'Question Time' programme?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 8:29 pm

GENERAL ELECTION PREDICTIONS 68: GREATER MANCHESTER N-Z
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/1 ... um=twitter
Seats: 10
Current Political Makeup: Lab 10
Predicted Political Makeup after May 7: Lab 10

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:05 pm

Oil price crash threatens the future of the North Sea oilfields
Scottish government pledges to try to preserve offshore energy sector jobs, with prices having fallen 60% in the last six months
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... -oilfields

But I thought the Scottish government didn't attend the recent oil sector's summit to discuss the impact of the oil price crash ...? Scottish Labour went ... but not the Scottish government. Correct me if I'm wrong - but I seem to remember quite a few commentators pointing out how blase Sturgeon seemed to be about this. Obviously not quite so blase now.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:11 pm

Cocking Hell, should I announce the winner of the 2015 Groan Award for the worst article.

This is nailed on.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... mentpage=1

Jenkins, Tory

Tonibel · Post by **Tonibel** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:13 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
How Eric Talked Tough.jpg

Pissing myself at the absolute patheticness (is that even a word?) of this. Are there really people enduring a hell because their chicken tikka masala remains aren't collected the next day? Really? Well if they are, they shouldn't bloody be ordering more tikka than they can eat then - should they Pickles - yes, I'm looking at you Pickles, at you.

Do you really think Pickles has leftovers?

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:13 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
The Media Blog @TheMediaTweets · 5h 5 hours ago
Will Al Murray now get his own BBC show, like Nigel Farage's Thursday night 'Question Time' programme?

Oh I do so hope that happens.

Ever since the end of Time Gentleman Please I have been in mourning.

Mustard is Yellow not Brown.

BACK OFF BRUSSELS !!!!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:18 pm

Tonibel wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
How Eric Talked Tough.jpg

Pissing myself at the absolute patheticness (is that even a word?) of this. Are there really people enduring a hell because their chicken tikka masala remains aren't collected the next day? Really? Well if they are, they shouldn't bloody be ordering more tikka than they can eat then - should they Pickles - yes, I'm looking at you Pickles, at you.
Do you really think Pickles has leftovers?

No, you got me there Tonibel. But he obviously has insider knowledge of bins and their contents ... so I wouldn't be too surprised to learn he'd been rooting through the bins for said tikka masala 'remnants'.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:33 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 1h 1 hour ago
Al Murray’s South Thanet bid looks like an effort to stop Nigel Farage http://bit.ly/1KK6nyO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

66/1 odds of him winning. The bookies say more people are betting on Murray than on Farage.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:35 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
The Media Blog @TheMediaTweets · 5h 5 hours ago
Will Al Murray now get his own BBC show, like Nigel Farage's Thursday night 'Question Time' programme?
Oh I do so hope that happens.

Ever since the end of Time Gentleman Please I have been in mourning.

Mustard is Yellow not Brown.

BACK OFF BRUSSELS !!!!

Very good live too, although I preferred him in the earlier days when he played slightly smaller venues.

"Any Aussies in the audience? Returning to the scene of the crime eh?"

And, you've got to have rules, if you didn't have rules where would you be ......

Post by **refitman** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:41 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Oh I do so hope that happens.

Ever since the end of Time Gentleman Please I have been in mourning.

Mustard is Yellow not Brown.

BACK OFF BRUSSELS !!!!
Very good live too, although I preferred him in the earlier days when he played slightly smaller venues.

"Any Aussies in the audience? Returning to the scene of the crime eh?"

And, you've got to have rules, if you didn't have rules where would you be ......

France?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:45 pm

Remember this? The wheels of justice certainly do grind slow.

Foster is part of a group of 10 people who either admitted to or were found guilty of committing a range of fraud, forgery and conspiracy charges following a 13-week trial at Reading Crown Court.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... ent-fraud/

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:49 pm

This one's for Tubby and Roger. Still rumbling on!

Consultation to secure permanent site for Caversham school to cost £31k

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... cost-31k-/

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:50 pm

daydreamer wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Mark Ferguson ‏@Markfergusonuk 3h3 hours ago
Tell me more about free speech and the democratic system Dave. Then tell me about the Gagging Law again. #PMQs
The nerve of the man is astounding. I want most of the Condems legislation abolished as fast as possible - the Gagging Law should be one of the first. We've already seen how it is being used to restrict political bloggers - disgusting.
Absolutely Rebecca. Labour I think have promised to repeal it, so hopefully they do so at the first opportunity, if elected. Talking of protecting our right to free speech look at his quote from IDS.

Meeting security chiefs to discuss increasing email and phone intercept protocols before heading to France to support free speech.
— Iain Duncan Smith MP - 10th January 2015.

Kafka would have been proud. I can only assume that my past perception of him being as thick as shit was not the disgruntled jaded judgement of a long time lefty, but actually a very accurate judgement that captured his essence, ie, that he really so stupid that he couldn't pour piss out of a boot, even if you printed comprehensive instructions on the boot's sole.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:51 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Remember this? The wheels of justice certainly do grind slow.

Foster is part of a group of 10 people who either admitted to or were found guilty of committing a range of fraud, forgery and conspiracy charges following a 13-week trial at Reading Crown Court.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... ent-fraud/

Yes very slow. But that report is very light on information. How much did she and others financially benefit from the fraud? I've got no idea of the scale of the scamming and how much they ripped off the public purse ...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:53 pm

Following the GP resignations, NHS England launched a commissioning process to find a new provider and the public meeting was primarily to introduce Berkshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust, the organisation which will take over the running of the surgery on an interim basis from February 2015.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/opini ... southcote/

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 9:57 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Remember this? The wheels of justice certainly do grind slow.

Foster is part of a group of 10 people who either admitted to or were found guilty of committing a range of fraud, forgery and conspiracy charges following a 13-week trial at Reading Crown Court.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... ent-fraud/
Yes very slow. But that report is very light on information. How much did she and others financially benefit from the fraud? I've got no idea of the scale of the scamming and how much they ripped off the public purse ...

Perhaps we have to wait for the sentencing? Is that how it works? The report says Legal restrictions have prevented Foster's guilty plea from being reported until the end of the trial.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 14 Jan, 2015 10:00 pm

And if you're only reading at present: Night PF