Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th January 2015

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:27 pm

European Left ‏@europeanleft · 1m1 minute ago  Greece
Shipment of anxiolytics for Juncker and his henchmen. Hehehe.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:29 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:29 pm

PorFavor wrote:
diGriz wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Oh, for chrissake...
I like Grant nice but Green.
Surely, if anything, the Chairman should be clarifying what other party members have said - and not the other way around? He's a real ass(et), isn't he?

Shapps is congenitally unable to tell it like it is.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:32 pm

The GE banner at the top is an hour out.

100 days in 2 1/2 hours?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:42 pm

Hoax GCHQ caller put through to David Cameron’s phone

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:44 pm

diGriz wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week

You know I can never turn down a displaced polar vortex story promising crippling snowstorms.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:44 pm

diGriz wrote:The GE banner at the top is an hour out.

100 days in 2 1/2 hours?

Technically it is perhaps correct, since we will have moved into summer time by then

All depends how you count that short day I guess....

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:46 pm

Well Robert Peston isn't impressed (quelle surprise) but it is looking as though Labour are going to announce their intention to cut tuition fees to £6k; it may not be all some (including me) would have wanted, but it is a start, it can be built on and it puts clear blue water between Labour and the Tories .... and I bet it has got Clegg spitting blood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30976509" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:46 pm

diGriz wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week

Well, I guess we know how Dave is getting out of having to defend his crippling five year premiership.

“Such is the severity of this situation I have written to the Government’s Cabinet Office Briefing Room (COBRA) committee urging them to take immediate action.”

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:47 pm

Wait. "Written"?

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:49 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
diGriz wrote:The GE banner at the top is an hour out.

100 days in 2 1/2 hours?
Technically it is perhaps correct, since we will have moved into summer time by then

All depends how you count that short day I guess....

Ah. But still, a nice thought to wake up to tomorrow.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:50 pm

Syriza’s projected share of the parliamentary seats has edged up to 149, according to the latest projection from the interior ministry after 62% of the results.

Nail bitingly close to a majority!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:50 pm

citizenJA wrote:
diGriz wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week
Well, I guess we know how Dave is getting out of having to defend his crippling five year premiership.

“Such is the severity of this situation I have written to the Government’s Cabinet Office Briefing Room (COBRA) committee urging them to take immediate action.”

There you go. He'll be too busy at COBRA emergency meetings to attend the debates.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:50 pm

"The prime minister ended the call when it became clear it was a hoax and no sensitive information was disclosed, Downing Street said."

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:50 pm

You hero, Dave.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:52 pm

citizenJA wrote:
diGriz wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week
You know I can never turn down a displaced polar vortex story promising crippling snowstorms.

Figures. My boiler's on the blink again...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:55 pm

citizenJA wrote:

Hoax GCHQ caller put through to David Cameron’s phone

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder how many times Dave said: "We care passionately about this," before he caught on.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 9:56 pm

citizenJA wrote:Wait. "Written"?

With a quill pen, using the blood of a passing pleb as ink.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:06 pm

citizenJA wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire · 1h1 hour ago
Flibbertigibbet MEP Amjad Bashir was a member of Labour as well as Respect, Ukip and now Cons? Lucky Lib Dem escape. Ta @tomwilson23

Bit of a wanderer it seems..
I don't care for that kind of thing. I hope I don't offend anyone with that. Maybe making one change, I can understand that, but more than that it's hard to know what that candidate is about.

Winston McKenzie that way inclined too.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:08 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Well Robert Peston isn't impressed (quelle surprise) but it is looking as though Labour are going to announce their intention to cut tuition fees to £6k; it may not be all some (including me) would have wanted, but it is a start, it can be built on and it puts clear blue water between Labour and the Tories .... and I bet it has got Clegg spitting blood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30976509" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Might be wrong, but I have "one of my feelings" about this. They will be lower than 6k and there will be something to help those who have already had to pay (or borrow) for them

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:12 pm

In any case, these ideas are circumscribed by traditional boundaries. Neither is a truly radical small-government idea alternative. But one idea that Frum highlighted is more radical: a guaranteed basic income, otherwise known as just giving people money.

The idea isn’t new. As Frum notes, Friederich Hayek endorsed it. In 1962, the libertarian economist Milton Friedman advocated a minimum guaranteed income via a “negative income tax.” In 1967, Martin Luther King Jr. said, “The solution to poverty is to abolish it directly by a now widely discussed measure: the guaranteed income.” Richard Nixon unsuccessfully tried to pass a version of Friedman’s plan a few years later, and his Democratic opponent in the 1972 presidential election, George McGovern, also suggested a guaranteed annual income.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... me/375600/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So not only a loony left idea then...

mbc1955 · Post by **mbc1955** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:14 pm

citizenJA wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire · 1h1 hour ago
Flibbertigibbet MEP Amjad Bashir was a member of Labour as well as Respect, Ukip and now Cons? Lucky Lib Dem escape. Ta @tomwilson23

Bit of a wanderer it seems..
I don't care for that kind of thing. I hope I don't offend anyone with that. Maybe making one change, I can understand that, but more than that it's hard to know what that candidate is about.

I disagree. It's very easy to know what that candidate is about. Himself, and nothing else. Power at any price, self-aggrandisement at any lie.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:16 pm

Spacedone wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Above, any chance of posting the URL my web browser throws away FTN embedded you tube.
So does mine on this loan machine – a 2010 Intel-based Macbook. I've been trying to work out why and fix it but decided I wasn't in the frame of mind for dealing with it.
It could be something like Adobe Flash Player needing updating.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you try it remember to untick the 'special' offer to install McAfee on your computer.

I have found that FlashBlock completely borks Youtube embeds on here. I've had to disable it for now.

I will have a look.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:17 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:Have a look at #UkipFilmTitles on twitter, there are some hilarious ones

My favourite was Let The White Ones In.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:20 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote: Do not turn off automatic updating, if it ever stops working find out why and fix it.

Microsoft issue updates on a regular basis when they become aware of bugs or security risks. Virus and root kit exploits always try and disable this for a reason.

Regular updates are a sign of a serious commitment by Microsoft to your security.

By the way Mac users can't laugh, there are huge vulnerabilities in their systems that have needed patching - including the most incompetent piece of crypto I have ever seen.

And no I don't work for Microsoft (or sell their products).
Correct.

For those thinking of upgrading/updating to Windows 10 please do your research and maybe wait until it's been rolled-out for a while. You could also watch twit.tv's regular programme Windows Weekly, and/or read their show notes. Latest episode is here:

http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/397
I always check the internet for complaints or praise about a new introduction before I decide whether to download or not. It's saved me a lot of bother.
I used to have WinME Had heard it was rubbish, and when I needed a new computer shared my worries with the salesman...Big mistake he being the 'expert' said as it was just for personal use I shouldn't get any problems
Once bitten twice shy.

I ended up with Win8 because literally all the computers in the store had it. I didn't want to spend time shopping around for another.
It's very quick and I've not had any major problems with it except for the re-purchase MS Office and that it was designed for a mobile phone.

Linux is increasingly your friend.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:21 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
diGriz wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/55 ... -next-week

I know it's the Express but still.
Britain on red alert as 'displaced polar vortex' to unleash crippling snowstorms next week
You know I can never turn down a displaced polar vortex story promising crippling snowstorms.
Figures. My boiler's on the blink again...

According to the Met Office we'll be getting some snow on Thursday morning which makes my decision to join the NHS Strike all that much easier since where I am gets cut off from all transport at the slightest sign of snow.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:26 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote: Correct.

For those thinking of upgrading/updating to Windows 10 please do your research and maybe wait until it's been rolled-out for a while. You could also watch twit.tv's regular programme Windows Weekly, and/or read their show notes. Latest episode is here:

http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/397
I always check the internet for complaints or praise about a new introduction before I decide whether to download or not. It's saved me a lot of bother.
I used to have WinME Had heard it was rubbish, and when I needed a new computer shared my worries with the salesman...Big mistake he being the 'expert' said as it was just for personal use I shouldn't get any problems
Once bitten twice shy.

I ended up with Win8 because literally all the computers in the store had it. I didn't want to spend time shopping around for another.
It's very quick and I've not had any major problems with it except for the re-purchase MS Office and that it was designed for a mobile phone.
Linux is increasingly your friend.

No, it isn't.

With Linux you have all of the same problems and rather less resources trying to deal with them.

If you want it to work, buy a Mac. Just make sure everything you want it to work with is also supplied by Apple.

I prefer PC's but then again I have Win 7.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:27 pm

The Education Select Committee is releasing a bipartisan report this week saying that the Coalition's education reforms have had little or no effect.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... ry-inquiry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The education committee report is expected to be most damaging in drawing a contrast between the results of converter academies – schools that voluntarily converted to academy status through policies introduced by Michael Gove in 2010 – and Labour’s earlier sponsored academy programme, which sought to turn around struggling schools.

The MPs took evidence from policymakers and considered data on exam performance in judging the effectiveness of different types of schools.

Once adjusted for prior attainment, however, it found that converter academies did less well than sponsored academies.

Money well spent.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:27 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:31 pm

Pictured: Open air SWIMMING POOL to be built in middle of the Thames...for £10milion
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ol-5041813" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:32 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:34 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Well Robert Peston isn't impressed (quelle surprise) but it is looking as though Labour are going to announce their intention to cut tuition fees to £6k; it may not be all some (including me) would have wanted, but it is a start, it can be built on and it puts clear blue water between Labour and the Tories .... and I bet it has got Clegg spitting blood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30976509" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Might be wrong, but I have "one of my feelings" about this. They will be lower than 6k and there will be something to help those who have already had to pay (or borrow) for them

I'm listening AAW ... I'm listening. You are the woman that predicted the royal pregnancy - I bow to 'one of your feelings'.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:34 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:38 pm

Night PF.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:40 pm

Good-night, everyone.
love
JA

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:40 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:Is it just me, or is anyone else deriving a great deal of vicarious excitement and satisfaction in following an election in which a left-wing anti-austerity party is set fair for a cracking result?

Yes, I know, beware dodgy exit polls &tc, but it looks like the Greeks have taken against The Narrative laid out for them by The Great'n'The Good. I'll drink to that - στην υγειά σας

Nicely done, and I admire the sentiment. Stin yassas and efharisto!

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:41 pm

Spacedone wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Above, any chance of posting the URL my web browser throws away FTN embedded you tube.
So does mine on this loan machine – a 2010 Intel-based Macbook. I've been trying to work out why and fix it but decided I wasn't in the frame of mind for dealing with it.
It could be something like Adobe Flash Player needing updating.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you try it remember to untick the 'special' offer to install McAfee on your computer.

That's a thought. Thanks. Leaving it for today, though, as I'll doubtless have to work out the most recent build I can install.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:41 pm

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 8 mins8 minutes ago
The Greek election will increase economic uncertainty across Europe. That's why the UK must stick to our plan, delivering security at home.

Running scared?

Post by **refitman** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:42 pm

Night PF & cJA.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:43 pm

ohsocynical wrote:David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 8 mins8 minutes ago
The Greek election will increase economic uncertainty across Europe. That's why the UK must stick to our plan, delivering security at home.

Running scared?

My eyes are a bit squiffy tonight - read that first time as 'increase comic uncertainty across Europe'.

On second thoughts ... that's probably about right.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:43 pm

citizenJA wrote:Good-night, everyone.
love
JA

Night JA

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:43 pm

Night JA.

Johnboy and Mary Ellen, just take it as read ....

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:45 pm

I'm loving the idea that Empty has taken part in an episode of 'Down The Line' without realising - and called a COBRA meeting and will put in enhanced security on the back of it .... can't wait for the programme to be aired. Wonder what they wanted to chat to him about?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:51 pm

George Eaton @georgeeaton · 2h 2 hours ago
Incredibly, the Conservatives will cite the instability in Greece as proof that there has been too little austerity, rather than too much.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:55 pm

Very telling piece by Kevin Maguire in the Mirror (with a suitably scathing cartoon from Mr Rowson).

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vo ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:58 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Well Robert Peston isn't impressed (quelle surprise) but it is looking as though Labour are going to announce their intention to cut tuition fees to £6k; it may not be all some (including me) would have wanted, but it is a start, it can be built on and it puts clear blue water between Labour and the Tories .... and I bet it has got Clegg spitting blood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30976509" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Might be wrong, but I have "one of my feelings" about this. They will be lower than 6k and there will be something to help those who have already had to pay (or borrow) for them
I'm listening AAW ... I'm listening. You are the woman that predicted the royal pregnancy - I bow to 'one of your feelings'.

The meeting I went to a couple of weeks ago kicked off with a student (and 4 others from different areas of industry, unemployed and a contract worker agency owner) telling their story about how they have been affected by the Cons. When Ed spoke he wove each "story" in to his speech with details how Labour would be different. On the student one he made a lot about graduates coming out with such massive debt....."something that makes me livid".
During Q&A's (at which he is magnificent at by the way) he was asked about fees and what labour would do. He gave a stock answer adding "I'm not going to do a Clegg on you, when we make our announcement it will add up and will be a firm one.
Now, not much there you may think, but you had to be there and see the look in his eye's and the tone of his voice to understand there was much more going on behind the words.
A sort of "feeling".

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 10:59 pm

Night all

Post by **refitman** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 11:02 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Night all

Night AAW

mikems · Post by **mikems** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 11:07 pm

Citizens income of a sort, known then as Social Credit, goes back to the 1920s when there was a general ideological fluidity post-war and Russian revolution.

The trade unions were interested in the idea, but so were the circles around Oswald Mosley that went on to become the New Party and then the BUF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_credit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mikems · Post by **mikems** » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 11:10 pm

TE,

With Linux you have all of the same problems and rather less resources trying to deal with them.

That's rubbish. You don't like Linux for some reason, but there's no need to run it down unecessarily. I imagine it is quite a while since you used it, because there is nothing difficult or particularly problematic with linux.