Monday 26th January 2015

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:38 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 16m16 minutes ago
So Tories roll over on plain packs and now fracking? Why not just give Labour the keys...

Really is one to shove down the throat of that Kermit on CiF that was banging on about how Labour hadn't achieved anything and weren't opposing the government.

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 1h 1 hour ago
Rumour that the Govt is having to accept all Labour's amendments on fracking. Would be a disaster for shale industry.

Quite.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:39 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:

Really is one to shove down the throat of that Kermit on CiF that was banging on about how Labour hadn't achieved anything and weren't opposing the government.

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 1h 1 hour ago
Rumour that the Govt is having to accept all Labour's amendments on fracking. Would be a disaster for shale industry.
Quite.

Has his boss got financial interests in the industry ?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:46 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 16m16 minutes ago
So Tories roll over on plain packs and now fracking? Why not just give Labour the keys...

That the one who almost certainly lives in central London and would be entirely unaffected by fracking?

Funny how the so-called metropolitan elite get it in the neck about not caring about ordinary people in the rest of the country...and yet when they do...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:47 pm

kernowken 3h ago

Unfortunately Ozzy in my hometown, "George Osborne at Falmouth Docks to announce £15 million defence contract". the West Briton has "fetching" pics of him posing in a yellow jacket again.
I wouldn't waste your time looking.
"BBC's Flog It comes to Falmouth's Maritime Museum(yesterday) more pleasant, wish I had been there.

GeoffWhit kernowken 3h ago

Suprised he wasn't at the rubber factory with Cameron. Seems more like his sort of thing.

kernowken GeoffWhit 3h ago

Wish their dads had used a rubber.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:47 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Patrick Wintour ‏@patrickwintour 15m15 minutes ago
Government retreat on fracking in face of likely defeat is serious blow to the nascent industry. Zombie Parliament less dead than thought.

Huw Irranca-Davies ‏@IrrancaDaviesMP 7m7 minutes ago
Gov't has been gung ho over #shalegas -but a humongous u-turn now in Commons, forced to accept all Labour amendments on stringent regulation

Excellent news - Gidders will have to break that to his dad. Daddy probably won't be very pleased.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:47 pm

So, Labour's amendment on fracking wins.

And that's Labour voting for Tory policy.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:50 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: So - I wonder how this may impact on the decision coming up re the fracking license applications in Lancashire. There was mention of this during the debate - someone criticising the government confusion / lack of clarity over particular amendments and detail as the legislation going through would be instrumental in decision making and on the ground.
As far as I can tell the conditions set out in clause 19 will make it almost impossible to frack at all.
Just trying to find the link now, lost it earlier when I had to re boot.
Caroline Lucas, needless to say, is doing her level best to make it look as though Labour backed the Government today.

Caroline Lucas ‏@CarolineLucas · 15m15 minutes ago
Just voted for #fracking moratorium - Labour abstained & vote was lost. No time allowed to put amendment to oppose trespass changes #farce
No point in trying to respond to her, the massed ranks will leap all over yelling "Red Tories".

Wasn't it Scottish Labour who didn't vote?

She is naughty. This is the second time she's deliberately posted a not entirely truthful Tweet.
I know Tizme was upset and thought it was a bit exagerated and we were ganging up, but here we are again.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:52 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:So, Labour's amendment on fracking wins.

And that's Labour voting for Tory policy.

Anyone care to Tweet that to Lucas? Looks like, despite the big words, she's just a politician after all, and not a particularly honest one on this subject.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:53 pm

George_Smiley 3h ago

Reports that at the Staffordshire Q&A Ed Miliband pledged to reverse the scrapping of The Independent living Fund.

Only thing to back up the reports so far is this tweet from a Staffordshire Labour PPC:

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rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:54 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote: As far as I can tell the conditions set out in clause 19 will make it almost impossible to frack at all.
Just trying to find the link now, lost it earlier when I had to re boot.
Caroline Lucas, needless to say, is doing her level best to make it look as though Labour backed the Government today.

Caroline Lucas ‏@CarolineLucas · 15m15 minutes ago
Just voted for #fracking moratorium - Labour abstained & vote was lost. No time allowed to put amendment to oppose trespass changes #farce
No point in trying to respond to her, the massed ranks will leap all over yelling "Red Tories".
Wasn't it Scottish Labour who didn't vote?

She is naughty. This is the second time she's deliberately posted a not entirely truthful Tweet.
I know Tizme was upset and thought it was a bit exagerated and we were ganging up, but here we are again.

Is fracking a devolved matter in Scotland ... and that's why Scottish Labour wouldn't have voted (if that's correct)? Scottish Labour have, in any case, come out very clearly against fracking and said they would go for a moratorium in Scotland.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:57 pm

Anyone seen the 'interesting' way of conducting a poll on the UKIP website right now?

WILL YOU BE VOTING FOR UKIP IN THE NEXT ELECTION?

Yes
Undecided

Oh, and for your vote to count you have to supply your email and postcode...could they be less obvious?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:59 pm

I think this probably explains the difference in interpretations Ohso - Greatrex was the Labour representative leading the proposals for the amendments that the government caved in on.

Tom Greatrex ‏@tomgreatrexmp 5m5 minutes ago
Tough safeguards better than short term moratorium.No fracking unless real conditions met. In Scotland with Labour, none without local vote.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:59 pm

Tweeters not happy because Labour didn't force through a total ban.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:07 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Tweeters not happy because Labour didn't force through a total ban.

Why do the tweeters think Labour could have forced through a total ban?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:09 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Anyone seen the 'interesting' way of conducting a poll on the UKIP website right now?

WILL YOU BE VOTING FOR UKIP IN THE NEXT ELECTION?

Yes
Undecided

Oh, and for your vote to count you have to supply your email and postcode...could they be less obvious?

They haven't actually offered a prize for voting Yes - yet.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:18 pm

Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick · 2h 2 hours ago
@Tilgate_FGreen Chief exec of Assoc electoral administrators, John Turner, expects most postal ballots to go out in week starting 13 April.

Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick · 2h 2 hours ago
@Tilgate_FGreen It could mean millions vote before the third debate (30 April), and maybe 100s of 1000s before second debate (16 April)

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:23 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Tweeters not happy because Labour didn't force through a total ban.
Why do the tweeters think Labour could have forced through a total ban?

God knows.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:23 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Tweeters not happy because Labour didn't force through a total ban.
Why do the tweeters think Labour could have forced through a total ban?

Because their heads are so far up ......

Ahem, I'll start again. Because they haven't done the maths and worked out that the Government would have won the vote whatever; Lucas knows that, but it suits her to paint Labour as the villains of the piece despite the fact that all the major concessions won today, which basically stop things in their tracks, were put forward by Labour.

Labour's position has been unchanged for the past three years. They don't reject fracking outright, but will only allow it to happen under the strictest of safeguards; as Tom Greatrex tweeted, it is better to have serious safeguards in place than a short term moratorium which allows things to go on unchecked when it ends (I've embellished his comment a little). Lucas, and her supporters on Twitter, are deliberately distorting the picture to make it seem that it is only the so-called "Green surge" that has forced Labour into this position; it is a flagrant lie and, is in my opinion, dangerous as it creates divisions in the electorate that only benefits the Tories.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:28 pm

'Jon Swindon' is a sight better in the usage of Photoshop than Grant Shapps-Green.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:30 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Tweeters not happy because Labour didn't force through a total ban.
Why do the tweeters think Labour could have forced through a total ban?
Because their heads are so far up ......

Ahem, I'll start again. Because they haven't done the maths and worked out that the Government would have won the vote whatever; Lucas knows that, but it suits her to paint Labour as the villains of the piece despite the fact that all the major concessions won today, which basically stop things in their tracks, were put forward by Labour.

Labour's position has been unchanged for the past three years. They don't reject fracking outright, but will only allow it to happen under the strictest of safeguards; as Tom Greatrex tweeted, it is better to have serious safeguards in place than a short term moratorium which allows things to go on unchecked when it ends (I've embellished his comment a little). Lucas, and her supporters on Twitter, are deliberately distorting the picture to make it seem that it is only the so-called "Green surge" that has forced Labour into this position; it is a flagrant lie and, is in my opinion, dangerous as it creates divisions in the electorate that only benefits the Tories.

Just posted this. Had to chop it to fit.

Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray now
Lucas & her supporters deliberately distorting the picture so it looks like the so-called Green surge has forced Labour into this position;

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:32 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote: Is fracking a devolved matter in Scotland ... and that's why Scottish Labour wouldn't have voted (if that's correct)? Scottish Labour have, in any case, come out very clearly against fracking and said they would go for a moratorium in Scotland.

Yes and no! Local Authority planning permission would be required, so in that respect it's devolved. Both the SNP and Scottish Labour are against it, so if a maverick council were to give permission, the SG could overrule it.
Scotland has been omitted from the Infrastructure Bill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-30803788

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:32 pm

Also Tweeted Caroline Lucas and asked her to clarify misleading Tweet

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:34 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:'Jon Swindon' is a sight better in the usage of Photoshop than Grant Shapps-Green.

Well yes, but where are the Prime Ministerial moobs?

/stickler for detail, no matter how unsettling.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:35 pm

Steve McCabe ‏@steve_mccabe 4m4 minutes ago
Unreal in Parliament tonight. Govt has no work for Commons but is rushing Infrastructure Bill at breakneck speed. People can't debate it.

It has been utterly disgraceful ... and very deliberate. The speaker keeps on telling them to hurry up because they're running out of time. I've turned it off because it's made me so angry.

I presume this tactic is probably part of Osborne's drive to push through as much of the legislation that will make it easier for his money making pals to cash in - in as short a space of time and with as little scrutiny as possible.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:44 pm

Matthew Harris ‏@hattmarris84 · 6m6 minutes ago
LISTEN: What does a newly elected Syriza MP think of Ed Miliband? Clue: He's a bit of a fan

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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:48 pm

Here's the fracking list amendments
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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:48 pm

Eric_WLothian wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: Is fracking a devolved matter in Scotland ... and that's why Scottish Labour wouldn't have voted (if that's correct)? Scottish Labour have, in any case, come out very clearly against fracking and said they would go for a moratorium in Scotland.
Yes and no! Local Authority planning permission would be required, so in that respect it's devolved. Both the SNP and Scottish Labour are against it, so if a maverick council were to give permission, the SG could overrule it.
Scotland has been omitted from the Infrastructure Bill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-30803788

SNPers are affecting not to understand why Scottish Labour didn't ban fracking for whole UK.

Weren't they "vote only on Scotland matters" until recently?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:50 pm

Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:52 pm

If anyone knows more on the ILF tweet would be interested. There's some odd things going down today, but if it's not true someone is either very stupid or very malicious. This is the difference between having normality and a life, and lying in your own shit with no independence.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:52 pm

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 30m 30 minutes ago
Anybody would think that there's a GE coming. As well as new Survation polling series launch there's a ComRes phone poll for the Indy

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 36m 36 minutes ago
Survation poll this evening for Mirror coming out in new GE15 polling series

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:55 pm

General Election ‏@UKELECTIONS2015 · 15m15 minutes ago
Yougov London Evening Standard

Labour 42%
Conservatives 32%
UKIP 10%
GREENS 8%
LIBDEMS 7%

Assume this is just for London seats ?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 7:58 pm

RE ILF-transcript(paraphrase) GOVT. shouldn't be getting rid of ILF.Once with local authorities,budget has to be protected;We have got to find ways of protecting that money for some of the most vulnerable disabled people"

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:00 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.

I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:02 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Eric_WLothian wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: Is fracking a devolved matter in Scotland ... and that's why Scottish Labour wouldn't have voted (if that's correct)? Scottish Labour have, in any case, come out very clearly against fracking and said they would go for a moratorium in Scotland.
Yes and no! Local Authority planning permission would be required, so in that respect it's devolved. Both the SNP and Scottish Labour are against it, so if a maverick council were to give permission, the SG could overrule it.
Scotland has been omitted from the Infrastructure Bill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-30803788
SNPers are affecting not to understand why Scottish Labour didn't ban fracking for whole UK.

Weren't they "vote only on Scotland matters" until recently?

SNP followers have strange ideas about what affects Scotland. Despite what they say, UK NHS spending affects Scotland (through the Barnett formula) - irrespective of whether Westminster spends on private or public facilities. Fracking in rUK is probably one of the very few activities which genuinely doesn't directly affect Scotland (other than any effect on gas prices).

Could be an interesting dispute if a company fracked under Scotland from just south of the border!

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:06 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.
I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.

To be honest technology is now too easy to use so the muppets have free reign.

Although to be fair, computer geek people can be total twats, just look at some of our technology leaders for examples.

Usually they could only answer yes to one of these two questions in their youth.

1. Do you have any friends?

2. That means real friends not computers?

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:09 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.
I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.

Twitter mostly seems populated by Cybernats, Kippers and Kermits at the moment, as does CiF. What I find amusing is the number of Tory trolls now posing as Kermits.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:09 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:General Election ‏@UKELECTIONS2015 · 15m15 minutes ago
Yougov London Evening Standard

Labour 42%
Conservatives 32%
UKIP 10%
GREENS 8%
LIBDEMS 7%

Assume this is just for London seats ?

Almost certainly.

Greens won't get many nationwide if they can't get more than 8% in London. But I don't think anyone has much idea what they could get.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:10 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.
I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:16 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.
I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.
Twitter mostly seems populated by Cybernats, Kippers and Kermits at the moment, as does CiF. What I find amusing is the number of Tory trolls now posing as Kermits.

I'm waiting for the opportunity to ask if Crosby's hand is up their bum moving their mouth.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:16 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Matthew Harris ‏@hattmarris84 · 6m6 minutes ago
LISTEN: What does a newly elected Syriza MP think of Ed Miliband? Clue: He's a bit of a fan
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"Nikos Xydakis who has just been elected as an MP for Syriza in Greece says he's a fan of Ed Miliband and his father Ralph!"

Mr. Nikos Xydakis has a wonderful voice.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:17 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Twitters okay but when you get thickos posting there isn't a big enough word count to sort them out.
I suspect Dr Clarke could do with a hand, as Twitter seems to be full of Greens do a UKIP impression, and getting hold of the completely wrong end of that legislative stick.

Odd that people can be bright enough to negotiate technology, find the internet, understand the purpose of social media, and then create themselves a Twitter account and yet still make complete c***s of themselves in 140 characters or less.
Twitter mostly seems populated by Cybernats, Kippers and Kermits at the moment, as does CiF. What I find amusing is the number of Tory trolls now posing as Kermits.

Yes, I noticed that too!

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:17 pm

Eric_WLothian wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Eric_WLothian wrote: Yes and no! Local Authority planning permission would be required, so in that respect it's devolved. Both the SNP and Scottish Labour are against it, so if a maverick council were to give permission, the SG could overrule it.
Scotland has been omitted from the Infrastructure Bill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-30803788
SNPers are affecting not to understand why Scottish Labour didn't ban fracking for whole UK.

Weren't they "vote only on Scotland matters" until recently?
SNP followers have strange ideas about what affects Scotland. Despite what they say, UK NHS spending affects Scotland (through the Barnett formula) - irrespective of whether Westminster spends on private or public facilities. Fracking in rUK is probably one of the very few activities which genuinely doesn't directly affect Scotland (other than any effect on gas prices).

Could be an interesting dispute if a company fracked under Scotland from just south of the border!

Think they're within their rights to vote on everything at Westminster.

But yeah, fracking in rUK is one of the things that sounds least suitable to vote on. Did they actually vote for it? Surely they can't criticize Labour if they didn't?

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:20 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Prime Minister David Cameron's visit to Bursledon Community Centre causes "total chaos" at GP surgery

To add insult to injury the Mirror Chicken - a person in a life-size chicken suit designed to mock Mr Cameron for saying he would not appear in TV debates - was tipped off about the event.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1175014 ... ry/?ref=ar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I missed that episode of The Thick of it.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:22 pm

citizenJA wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Matthew Harris ‏@hattmarris84 · 6m6 minutes ago
LISTEN: What does a newly elected Syriza MP think of Ed Miliband? Clue: He's a bit of a fan
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"Nikos Xydakis who has just been elected as an MP for Syriza in Greece says he's a fan of Ed Miliband and his father Ralph!"

Mr. Nikos Xydakis has a wonderful voice.

I hope everything goes well. They are going to have a hell of a time butting heads with the bankers and Eurocrats...And naturally enough they will be getting pushed to turn things around quickly from their own people.
I'd hate to see them go the way of other politicians and get sucked into the system. Strong wills needed I think.

Edited to add. Bet there'll be lots of bribes offered to turn their backs on their principles.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:22 pm

Bit more clarity re the fracking discussion - who voted for and against what. Looks like the moratorium amendment was a cross party motion including some Labour MPs proposing and voting for. John Mann also voted for the Labour amendment re strict regulations which got passed. Seen a tweet from Mark Reckless saying the Labour amendment has strangled fracking at its birth ... so UKIP not happy bunnies with the result.

John Mann MP ‏@JohnMannMP 8m8 minutes ago
Update on today's fracking vote in Parliament:

I voted FOR the 'moratorium' on fracking. This called for... http://fb.me/3SGs5w0Uh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:24 pm

diGriz wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Prime Minister David Cameron's visit to Bursledon Community Centre causes "total chaos" at GP surgery

To add insult to injury the Mirror Chicken - a person in a life-size chicken suit designed to mock Mr Cameron for saying he would not appear in TV debates - was tipped off about the event.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1175014 ... ry/?ref=ar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I missed that episode of The Thick of it.

And just think. It'll never be shown on TV.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:25 pm

From Ofqual, via Laura M.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:25 pm

Fracking isn't going to happen then. Outstanding.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:26 pm

Perhaps someone can explain why coursework is OK for these but not for anything else?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:28 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Bit more clarity re the fracking discussion - who voted for and against what. Looks like the moratorium amendment was a cross party motion including some Labour MPs proposing and voting for. John Mann also voted for the Labour amendment re strict regulations which got passed. Seen a tweet from Mark Reckless saying the Labour amendment has strangled fracking at its birth ... so UKIP not happy bunnies with the result.

John Mann MP ‏@JohnMannMP 8m8 minutes ago
Update on today's fracking vote in Parliament:

I voted FOR the 'moratorium' on fracking. This called for... http://fb.me/3SGs5w0Uh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you, RR2, I read the admendments - no way will hydraulic fracturing be given the go ahead given the bar set by the 'strict regulations'. Thank goodness!

"...the Labour amendment has strangled fracking at its birth..."

Music to my ears, Reckless.