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ohsocynical wrote:And just imagine. Your family might be fit as fleas all year, but you still have to pay your £14,520 because your neighbour might be having a really big operation on his insurance, and someone has to pay for it.

kizbot wrote:hello. kizbot here. just dropped in from the socialist republic of greece to say hi..

RobertSnozers wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

RobertSnozers wrote: Swiss Cottage

Are we allowing diagonals? Really?

It's less than 100 days to the election so I assumed we were playing Westminster Village rules

AngryAsWell wrote:We need some order...


Margaret Hodge

Distribution, hotels & restaurants
...Retail made the largest positive contribution to the increase

Transport, storage & communication
Computer programming, consultancy & related activities made the largest contribution to the increase

Business services & finance
Architectural & engineering activities made the largest positive contribution to the increase

Government & other services
...showed no growth..largest positive contribution came from human health activities
...the largest negative contribution came from libraries, archives, museums & other cultural activities

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/gva/gross ... y-Analysis

refitman wrote:

kizbot wrote:hello. kizbot here. just dropped in from the socialist republic of greece to say hi..

Hi kizbot, nice to see you.

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:And just imagine. Your family might be fit as fleas all year, but you still have to pay your £14,520 because your neighbour might be having a really big operation on his insurance, and someone has to pay for it.

Thanks Ohso for soldiering on!

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Simon Danczuk

(I can use him twice, as a wildcard that keeps you guessing which side he is on)

rebeccariots2 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:And just imagine. Your family might be fit as fleas all year, but you still have to pay your £14,520 because your neighbour might be having a really big operation on his insurance, and someone has to pay for it.

Thanks Ohso for soldiering on!

It somehow makes the game and the 'rules' seem even more apt - doesn't it just! We have a Mornington Crescent Shambles government.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:And just imagine. Your family might be fit as fleas all year, but you still have to pay your £14,520 because your neighbour might be having a really big operation on his insurance, and someone has to pay for it.

Thanks Ohso for soldiering on!

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ah, then I play ..... Sebastian Fox

(Acceptable under the Photoshop Variation)

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

rebeccariots2 wrote:And a quick sashay to ... Liam Fox / Werrity.

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Simon Hughes!

The straight choice!

Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

Jeremy Cunt

Which leaves a sideways move to his deputy Alan Milburn-Cunt open, which is a high points move but runs the risk of leaving the player Blaired.

Anybody brave enough?

letsskiptotheleft wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

David Miliband.

The right brother. Tube station Holland Park?

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Oh just spotted a wicked move via Peter Tatchell to Glenda Jackson and so.....

Dan F Hodges !

Jeremy Cunt

Which leaves a sideways move to his deputy Alan Milburn-Cunt open, which is a high points move but runs the risk of leaving the player Blaired.

Anybody brave enough?

Iain McKenzie MP retweeted
David McKenzie ‏@DavidXMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
Glad to see @Foxinparliament supporting Labour in banning blood sports and protecting animals! We need more lobbyist's like these

rebeccariots2 wrote:Ohso interlude ...

Iain McKenzie MP retweeted
David McKenzie ‏@DavidXMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
Glad to see @Foxinparliament supporting Labour in banning blood sports and protecting animals! We need more lobbyist's like these

Has there been some kind of announcement today re further wildlife protections?

refitman wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ah, then I play ..... Sebastian Fox

(Acceptable under the Photoshop Variation)

That does, of course, mean I can double up with Michael Green.

Green party’s flagship economic policy would hit poorest hardest, say experts
Citizen’s income – an unconditional income for every individual – would not work as hoped unless means-tested, say researchers
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -hits-poor

The Citizen’s Income Trust (CIT), which has given advice to the Green party and been repeatedly cited by the Greens, has modelled its scheme and discovered it would mean 35.15% of households would be losers, with many of the biggest losers among the poorest households.

The trust’s research shows that for the two lowest disposable income deciles, more than one-fifth would suffer income losses of more than 10%, something one of the most leftwing parties in the election is unlikely to want to advocate.

Malcolm Torry, director of the CIT, a small charitable research body, said: “I am not sure the Green party has yet taken on our new research or the need to retain a means-tested element. We have only just published the new work.”

The criticisms of the scheme, as well as doubts about costings, have led the Greens to make a tactical retreat, with the party’s leader, Natalie Bennett, saying detailed costings for the policy will not be available in the manifesto in March.

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

refitman wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ah, then I play ..... Sebastian Fox

(Acceptable under the Photoshop Variation)

That does, of course, mean I can double up with Michael Green.

Do you remember those picture books that used to be available for young children, where the pages were split so you could have the head of one character, body of another and the legs of a third? The Shapps/Green/Fox version would be sooo cheap to produce, although a wig might be needed for Corrine Stockheath.

kizbot wrote:hello. kizbot here. just dropped in from the socialist republic of greece to say hi..

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

refitman wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Ah, then I play ..... Sebastian Fox

(Acceptable under the Photoshop Variation)

That does, of course, mean I can double up with Michael Green.

Do you remember those picture books that used to be available for young children, where the pages were split so you could have the head of one character, body of another and the legs of a third? The Shapps/Green/Fox version would be sooo cheap to produce, although a wig might be needed for Corrine Stockheath.

AngryAsWell wrote:

NonOxCol wrote:Good afternoon. You may or may not know that, since late 2013, most of my online activity has centred on cricket rather than politics.

This hasn't exactly been a positive move. But today, it allows me to share with you this quite special tweet:

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That's a man on £700k per year, who plays for a team now sponsored by Waitrose, exclusively on a channel that costs about £46 per month.

(Any media coverage you see will be slanted to ensure that readers are aware he was having a very clumsy pop at Kevin Pietersen. However, the lack of awareness that leads to someone tweeting that, with those hashtags, is truly staggering)

Wow, just wow.

ohsocynical wrote:Wedding anniversary today...53 years.

daydreamer wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

NonOxCol wrote:Good afternoon. You may or may not know that, since late 2013, most of my online activity has centred on cricket rather than politics.

This hasn't exactly been a positive move. But today, it allows me to share with you this quite special tweet:

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's a man on £700k per year, who plays for a team now sponsored by Waitrose, exclusively on a channel that costs about £46 per month.

(Any media coverage you see will be slanted to ensure that readers are aware he was having a very clumsy pop at Kevin Pietersen. However, the lack of awareness that leads to someone tweeting that, with those hashtags, is truly staggering)

Wow, just wow.

Evening everyone.

What did it say? What were the hashtags? The page has gone, did Broad delete it? I can't get FTN at work, so I've missed it.

If someone would be kind enough to give me some idea it would be appreciated.

daydreamer wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

NonOxCol wrote:Good afternoon. You may or may not know that, since late 2013, most of my online activity has centred on cricket rather than politics.

This hasn't exactly been a positive move. But today, it allows me to share with you this quite special tweet:

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's a man on £700k per year, who plays for a team now sponsored by Waitrose, exclusively on a channel that costs about £46 per month.

(Any media coverage you see will be slanted to ensure that readers are aware he was having a very clumsy pop at Kevin Pietersen. However, the lack of awareness that leads to someone tweeting that, with those hashtags, is truly staggering)

Wow, just wow.

Evening everyone.

What did it say? What were the hashtags? The page has gone, did Broad delete it? I can't get FTN at work, so I've missed it.

If someone would be kind enough to give me some idea it would be appreciated.

“I’ve heard if you earn minimum wage in England you’re in the top 10% earners in the world. #stay #humble,”

citizenJA wrote:I do hope Kizbot hasn't gone.
I put on a new frock.
Welcome.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Try #stay #humble

and imagine a mega-wealthy former sportsperson saying it!

Broad later apologised for his comments, tweeting: “Clarifying my earlier tweet, I merely wanted to emphasise my amazement at just how big the world is. No offence meant and sorry if any taken. The hashtag was aimed at myself.”

citizenJA wrote:Margaret Thatcher

There is a clear contrast between Westminster’s “gung-ho” approach to Fracking, and the evidence-based, consensual approach being pursued by the Scottish Government, the SNP said today.

Westminster today announced fracking licenses for vast swathes of the central belt – but failed to consult the Scottish Government.

Meanwhile, the Scottish Government has welcomed the independent Expert Scientific Panel on Unconventional Oil and Gas’s new report published today, which calls for a more careful consideration of the regulatory regime.

letsskiptotheleft wrote:

citizenJA wrote:Margaret Thatcher

Willie Whitelaw.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:

citizenJA wrote:Margaret Thatcher

Willie Whitelaw.

George Osborne

The important results, extracted by comparing columns in the output files for the current benefits system and the Citizen's Income scheme, [23] are that for the lowest disposable income decile, over one fifth of households suffer losses of over 10%, and that for the second lowest disposable income decile the same is true.

By interrogating the results sheets for individuals generated by the programme, it is possible to identify the source of most of these substantial losses among households with low disposable incomes: In the scheme, low earners have their Personal Tax Allowance replaced by a Citizen's Income, but not their Working Tax Credits. To increase the working age adult Citizen's Income so that it would compensate for the loss of Working Tax Credits as well as for the loss of the Personal Tax Allowance would be far too expensive, as the increase in Citizen's Income would apply to every working age adult and not just to Tax Credit recipients.

It is a pity that such a large number of households with low disposable incomes suffer such large losses on the implementation of what otherwise looks like a useful and revenue neutral scheme: but unfortunately with that number of large losses the scheme would be impossible for a government to implement, and we ought to look for an alternative.

Another option: 'alternative 1'

As we have seen, the major generators of large losses among households with low disposable incomes are the combined value of Working Tax Credits and the Personal Tax Allowance, and the difficulties encountered when a complex system of means-tested and contributory benefits is replaced by a simple Citizen's Income.

It might therefore be worth proposing a method of implementing a Citizen's Income that circumvents these problems. What is not an option is to tamper with the Citizen's Income itself. Its value can be reduced, but it must remain an unconditional and nonwithdrawable income for every individual. If it does not do so then it will not deliver the advantages of social cohesion, simplicity, transparency, zero marginal deduction rate, lower total marginal deduction rates, reduced error and fraud rates, loss of stigma, etc.

So my proposal is that a Citizen's Income should be paid, that the Personal Tax Allowance should be abolished (which means that thresholds for taxable income have to be adjusted as all earned income will have become taxable), and that the Citizen's Income should be taken into account in the calculation of all existing means-tested benefits (including Tax Credits). This suggests that the Basic State Pension will be retained, so the Citizen's Income rate for those over the state retirement age should be £30 per week. (The new Single Tier State Pension will make this payment unnecessary.). Child Benefit will be retained and Child Citizen's Income should be paid at £20 p.w.. The adult Citizen's Income rate should remain at £71: the 2012-13 Income Support rate. Again, National Insurance Contributions will be paid at 12% on all earned income. All existing benefits are left in place, and the Citizen's Incomes are added to the means taken into account when means-tested benefits are calculated.