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Temulkar wrote:It was as letsskip says too plausible. YOu overdid it on the last one though

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TechnicalEphemera wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Problems with log in - can anyone help?
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Somewhere in your browsers security/privacy settings will be an option to enable cookies.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:- Nick, David Cameron's detractors made a lot of Devo Max not being on the ballot paper, didn't they?

-Yes, Jeremy, they did. But he's actually gone beyond Devo-Max, and delivered Devo-Max Plus. Which is something that Gordon Brown can't say. Nor Ed Miliband, who is still not resonating in Scotland.

- But constitutional historians might argue that we've just had a long referendum process, only for the system of government to be decided on the whim of the UK Prime Minister, some might say, on the hoof. Surely this new system has no mandate at all from the people of Scotland?

- Politics is about perception. And I can tell you that's not how it's being perceived in the bars of Glasgow. I'm told that Mr Cameron was blocked from putting Devo-Max on the ballot paper by officials, despite him having argued very strongly for it. Which very much underscores his point that the Civil Service needs reforming and replacing with people from Policy Exchange. I think Ed Miliband will be put very much on the backfoot. Will he be prepared to push these important reforms through, against the wishes of his union paymasters in the Unite Union? People here in the pubs of Glasgow sound unconvinced about that. Character issues are what matter in politics.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:BBC anchorman: So the NO side, for all the criticism and wobbles, have won rather comfortably. What do you make of it, Nick?

Nick Robinson: Let's leave aside all the boring economic and constitutional stuff for a minute. What this referendum has really been is a referendum on the government in Westminster. And David Cameron has won it. He's had to make very unpopular decisions, but he's won it, and in hostile territory for the Tories.

BBC anchorman: So could he claim it as vindication for his modernisation project?

Nick Robinson: I think he can. He's actually won over a lot of natural Labour supporters, who worryingly for them still don't seem to rate Ed Miliband any more than they did when they voted for the SNP in 2011, which allowed the whole referendum to take place.

BBC anchorman: Briefly, Nick, how does that leave him for the General Election next year?

Nick Robinson: If you'd asked me that a week ago, before David Cameron's unashamedly emotional appeal for the union, I'd have said he was struggling. But he's turned all that around. He'll now be able to concentrate full time on seeing off UKIP, though he may well lose Clacton to Douglas Carswell because of Labour's failure to pick up swing voters. And there's a theme here- Mr Cameron is a fighter and a survivor. Will Ed Miliband have the stomach for that fight?

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Temulkar wrote:It was as letsskip says too plausible. YOu overdid it on the last one though

Ah thanks!

From an original concept (of Cameron getting credit) by Robert Snozers.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:- Nick, David Cameron's detractors made a lot of Devo Max not being on the ballot paper, didn't they?

-Yes, Jeremy, they did. But he's actually gone beyond Devo-Max, and delivered Devo-Max Plus. Which is something that Gordon Brown can't say. Nor Ed Miliband, who is still not resonating in Scotland.

- But constitutional historians might argue that we've just had a long referendum process, only for the system of government to be decided on the whim of the UK Prime Minister, some might say, on the hoof. Surely this new system has no mandate at all from the people of Scotland?

- Politics is about perception. And I can tell you that's not how it's being perceived in the bars of Glasgow. I'm told that Mr Cameron was blocked from putting Devo-Max on the ballot paper by officials, despite him having argued very strongly for it. Which very much underscores his point that the Civil Service needs reforming and replacing with people from Policy Exchange. I think Ed Miliband will be put very much on the backfoot. Will he be prepared to push these important reforms through, against the wishes of his union paymasters in the Unite Union? People here in the pubs of Glasgow sound unconvinced about that. Character issues are what matter in politics.

Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 35m
YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour have six point lead, Lib Dems equal lowest YouGov polling: CON 32% LAB 38% LD 6% UKIP 14% GRN 5%

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 35m
YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour have six point lead, Lib Dems equal lowest YouGov polling: CON 32% LAB 38% LD 6% UKIP 14% GRN 5%

- Nick, things are pretty bad for the Lib Dems.

- Well, they always knew they'd take a hit from being in government. Ask people in here, and you detect a lot of grudging respect for Nick Clegg. That's a tangible feeling, literally tangible. You know, there's an adage in politics that that the polls never tell the whole story, unless they're personal ratings for Ed Miliband.

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TechnicalEphemera wrote:Perhaps FTN should create a new feature.

Little Nicky Robinson's politics blog.

Tubby could just add the interpretation of the days events to it as he see's fit on an adhoc and occasional basis. Then of course when Robinson is really off the mark FTN could tweet the occasional link and quote from the parody (to Nick Robinson ) .

“It would hugely aid the cause of reform, as we’d have to appeal to southern England"

Tubby Isaacs wrote:- Is there talk about the Clacton by-election in the bars of Glasgow, Nick?

- Lots, Jeremy. But the interesting thing is, very few people see it as a problem for David Cameron. They're saying the constituency is very much sui generis, and that nothing too much should be read into it. They're a very knowledgeable lot up here, and they're already comparing this to the 1973 Lincoln by-election in 1973, where the sitting MP Dick Taverne ran as an independent and defeated the official Labour candidate.

- They're saying Douglas Carswell is like Dick Taverne?

- No they're saying the by-election will be a big embarrassment for the Labour leader.

- Taverne lost the seat in the November election the next year, and Labour was in power for the next 5 years.

- That's not what they're saying here.

How would Salmond govern, socialist paradise, no, people need jobs, decent pay, streamline bureaucracy, new investment. No EU

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Perhaps FTN should create a new feature.

Little Nicky Robinson's politics blog.

Tubby could just add the interpretation of the days events to it as he see's fit on an adhoc and occasional basis. Then of course when Robinson is really off the mark FTN could tweet the occasional link and quote from the parody (to Nick Robinson ) .