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David Lindsay ‏@davidaslindsay 7m7 minutes ago
So, three anti-@Ed_Miliband, anti-@UKLabour panellists out of three on #newsnight. @Dannythefink @PCollinsTimes @greenmiranda
One of their journos got shirty with me when I said he wouldn't have said "tortous debates about TV debates" if Miliband was arsing about.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:This bit from the article...
According to the draft speech, Cameron will say: “Academies and free schools are most likely to be good or outstanding,” adding “free schools do not just help the performance of their pupils, but pupils in surrounding schools”.
First bit - note that he hasn't said "more likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" since the DfE have already admitted comparisons are not valid.

Second bit - wonder how they can prove that? Correlation isn't causation...
I don't see how he can claim they're "most likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" either, then. Surely that's a comparison of sorts, too?
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LadyCentauria wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This bit from the article...
According to the draft speech, Cameron will say: “Academies and free schools are most likely to be good or outstanding,” adding “free schools do not just help the performance of their pupils, but pupils in surrounding schools”.
First bit - note that he hasn't said "more likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" since the DfE have already admitted comparisons are not valid.

Second bit - wonder how they can prove that? Correlation isn't causation...
I don't see how he can claim they're "most likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" either, then. Surely that's a comparison of sorts, too?
He changed the word to get round UK Stats calling them on it. He knows nobody will ask who he means.

That's the sort of liar he is.
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LadyCentauria wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This bit from the article...
According to the draft speech, Cameron will say: “Academies and free schools are most likely to be good or outstanding,” adding “free schools do not just help the performance of their pupils, but pupils in surrounding schools”.
First bit - note that he hasn't said "more likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" since the DfE have already admitted comparisons are not valid.

Second bit - wonder how they can prove that? Correlation isn't causation...
I don't see how he can claim they're "most likely to be Good or Outstanding than LA schools" either, then. Surely that's a comparison of sorts, too?
I would imagine the "most likely" means >50% which is correct - what they can't do is what they used to do with tiresome regularity which was to compare against LA schools.

According to the TES there are 600 schools that were rated as outstanding which haven't been inspected for 7 years - 100 for more than a decade.
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Wow, I'll tweet that last bit!
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:She also wrote this drivel.

http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2009/1 ... y-burnham/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We are worried, therefore, about your announcement that henceforth the NHS is the “preferred provider” of NHS services.
Well isn't that the shit, Asato, it's not New Labour anymore.
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Tom Newton Dunn ‏@tnewtondunn 12m12 minutes ago
It appears a Tory has emailed PM's big free school + budget speech on Monday to wrong bod, and Labour have leaked to @patrickwintour. Oops.
James Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 14m14 minutes ago
Tories blaming LibDems for leak of early draft of PM free school speech with wrong numbers. But why are Libs seeing PM campaign speeches?
Bunglers. Bungling - possibly the only thing the Tories excel at.
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citizenJA wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:She also wrote this drivel.

http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2009/1 ... y-burnham/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We are worried, therefore, about your announcement that henceforth the NHS is the “preferred provider” of NHS services.
Well isn't that the shit, Asato, it's not New Labour anymore.
Her Tory opponents fired it back at her, and she said something about not taking it to "extremes".

She'll get it brought up by the Greens too.

And fair play to them.
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AngryAsWell wrote:Ed Miliband: No plans for SNP deal if Labour fail to win majority at election
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Good.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow, I'll tweet that last bit!
It's from here.

https://news.tes.co.uk/b/news/2015/02/2 ... ecade.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I keep finding references to Tories and shit today ... Sorry for lowering the tone considerably - but have just discovered possibly the strangest, most extreme of these via Martin Rowson - 'Tories With The Shits'.

https://twitter.com/ToryBadGuts
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow, I'll tweet that last bit!
It's from here.

https://news.tes.co.uk/b/news/2015/02/2 ... ecade.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Goodnight.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Would Dave do the debate if they gave him some fish to point at?
Ed did say that he'd debate Cameron any time, any plaice, anywhere...
But Cameron will just skate around any commitment...
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Goodnight dear @JA. Sorry it's a bit late but sweet dreams to you :)
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Hobiejoe wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Would Dave do the debate if they gave him some fish to point at?
Ed did say that he'd debate Cameron any time, any plaice, anywhere...
But Cameron will just skate around any commitment...
The fathead can't carp if the debates go on without him now...
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Hobiejoe wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Would Dave do the debate if they gave him some fish to point at?
Ed did say that he'd debate Cameron any time, any plaice, anywhere...
But Cameron will just skate around any commitment...
He is, after all, a Dab hand at this, and telling him otherwise will cause Pouting.

OK, I think that's all I've got.
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Hodges truly is a loathsome slug of a creature isn't he.

No evidence anywhere to support his claims yet he declares his own opinion as if was representative of the country at large. :toss:
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Hobiejoe wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote: Ed did say that he'd debate Cameron any time, any plaice, anywhere...
But Cameron will just skate around any commitment...
He is, after all, a Dab hand at this, and telling him otherwise will cause Pouting.

OK, I think that's all I've got.
Hope you don't mind but I'm floundering somewhat so I will just perch here awhile.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
David Lindsay ‏@davidaslindsay 7m7 minutes ago
So, three anti-@Ed_Miliband, anti-@UKLabour panellists out of three on #newsnight. @Dannythefink @PCollinsTimes @greenmiranda
One of their journos got shirty with me when I said he wouldn't have said "tortous debates about TV debates" if Miliband was arsing about.
The broadcasters have come up with their formula. It's up to the bacon faced pisstrumpet to say yes or no. Simple as that. What it has to do with Ed Miliband is anyone's guess. End of.
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pk1 wrote:Hodges truly is a loathsome slug of a creature isn't he.

No evidence anywhere to support his claims yet he declares his own opinion as if was representative of the country at large. :toss:
Well Hodges is a complete arsewipe, so why is he being quoted? He's a Tory. Just wait, come May 5-6th, he'll pen a sadface article about how "Red Ed's" party is far too left wing to vote for and how, with a sad heart, hw's voting Tory (his natural home).

I'll put a tenner on it, as I see it as a slam dunk.
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pk1 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote: But Cameron will just skate around any commitment...
He is, after all, a Dab hand at this, and telling him otherwise will cause Pouting.

OK, I think that's all I've got.
Hope you don't mind but I'm floundering somewhat so I will just perch here awhile.
Oh, I say, well played m'lady.

Time for bed for me, Best wishes to you all.
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ErnstRemarx wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
David Lindsay ‏@davidaslindsay 7m7 minutes ago
So, three anti-@Ed_Miliband, anti-@UKLabour panellists out of three on #newsnight. @Dannythefink @PCollinsTimes @greenmiranda
One of their journos got shirty with me when I said he wouldn't have said "tortous debates about TV debates" if Miliband was arsing about.
The broadcasters have come up with their formula. It's up to the bacon faced pisstrumpet to say yes or no. Simple as that. What it has to do with Ed Miliband is anyone's guess. End of.
But like everything for the last 5 years it has to be Labour's fault, it's one of the universal laws of physics or something.

It's interesting to see how the right-wing journos have split on this issue between those who can see how bad this looks for Cameron and the Tories and those who are valiantly trying to hold the new Party line of the debates being unimportant, nobody being interested and we should all move on to discuss the important new squirrel policy that was hurriedly announced...
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The last 2 paragraphs are worrying, theres a link to part 2 also, haven't read that one
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