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RobertSnozers wrote:Morning

Anyone else distinctly fed up with the wall-to-wall TV and billboard ads proclaiming how wonderful the government is? You sometimes see more than one in a single advert break. That's our money they're spending! Money they insist we don't have. Any idea how much? Not too late for an FOI request.

RobertSnozers wrote:Morning

Anyone else distinctly fed up with the wall-to-wall TV and billboard ads proclaiming how wonderful the government is? You sometimes see more than one in a single advert break. That's our money they're spending! Money they insist we don't have. Any idea how much? Not too late for an FOI request.

danesclose wrote:Morning all. Anyone else getting fed up with the wall to wall media coverage of the Grant Shapps lied about a 2nd job and being an internet conman story?

Official account of Michael Green, multi-millionaire internet marketer and founder of http://HowToCorp.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RobertSnozers wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Grant Shapps in "I'm a Tory spiv who masquerades as someone else and sells shit on the internet that gullible twats buy while still an MP" shocker.


But apparently it is anti-business to condemn him as he's an "entrepreneur" another word that should be binned along with "progressive".

James O'Brien is getting stuck in, Con Futures not amused, anti business blah blah and blah.

Jeremy Hunt tweeted: "Unbelievable Lab/Guard/BBC attack on @grantshapps. His sin not 2 use pseudonym but 2 write books about how 2 create wealth - shock horror..."

No Jeremy, he lied about it.

yahyah wrote:

RobertSnozers wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Grant Shapps in "I'm a Tory spiv who masquerades as someone else and sells shit on the internet that gullible twats buy while still an MP" shocker.


But apparently it is anti-business to condemn him as he's an "entrepreneur" another word that should be binned along with "progressive".

James O'Brien is getting stuck in, Con Futures not amused, anti business blah blah and blah.

Jeremy Hunt tweeted: "Unbelievable Lab/Guard/BBC attack on @grantshapps. His sin not 2 use pseudonym but 2 write books about how 2 create wealth - shock horror..."

No Jeremy, he lied about it.

Create wealth ? It's about how to grab a fast buck at the expense of others, it is parasitical behaviour.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Danny Alexander getting bandwidth for his renouncement of a "Review" into Business Rates.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ate-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have two questions about this?

Firstly, is it Tory policy, Lib Dem policy or both?

Second, if the Review is established by the Treasury, will it get in the way of Labour's promise to cut Business Rates?

yahyah wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Danny Alexander getting bandwidth for his renouncement of a "Review" into Business Rates.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ate-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have two questions about this?

Firstly, is it Tory policy, Lib Dem policy or both?

Second, if the Review is established by the Treasury, will it get in the way of Labour's promise to cut Business Rates?

Thirdly, why wait until 51 days before the election to push it ?
They've been in power for five years.

The study, published on Monday in the Journal of Public Health, finds that worries around debt, rent arrears and the prospect of being forced to move from their family home produced a sense of “hopelessness verging on desperation”. They reported being trapped in a “vicious cycle” of loneliness and isolation; they could often no longer afford to go to the pub or cafe, or even carry out family roles such as grandparenting.

Contrary to the government’s assertion when the policy was introduced that it would have no negative impact on health and wellbeing, the study concludes that the bedroom tax has “increased poverty and had broad-ranging adverse effects on health, wellbeing and social relationships”.

However, after news of the planned fundraiser broke on Friday, party members complained that the the ball was at odds with the Green party’s policy to redistribute wealth.

Now, Mr S hears that the event has been cancelled as a result of the public backlash. ‘After feedback from our membership, supporters and donors, the Green Party Executive decided not proceed with this event,’ a party spokesman tells Steerpike.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Danny Alexander getting bandwidth for his renouncement of a "Review" into Business Rates.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ate-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have two questions about this?

Firstly, is it Tory policy, Lib Dem policy or both?

Second, if the Review is established by the Treasury, will it get in the way of Labour's promise to cut Business Rates?

letsskiptotheleft wrote:This can also be filed under ''Politicians all the same'' file.

Alex Salmond's referendum diaries are being serialised by the Scottish Sun this week, the book published by William Collins on Thursday, both of course owned by Rupert Murdoch, the owner of the Sun which had Nicola Sturgeon photo-shopped in tartan bikini astride a wrecking ball. Of course there will be no out cry about Salmond cosying up to Murdoch by those nationalists who are so much more left wing than us further down south, there never has been.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/c ... .120705629" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RobertSnozers wrote:You probably all know this anyway, but according to Twitter, the Guardian editorship is down to two, Kath Viner - and bloody Ian Katz from Newsnight!!!!

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@grantshapps is clearly scaring the Labour Party, hence the hatchet job this am from @guardian. Old story rehashed to help out hapless Eds.
10:50 AM - 16 Mar 2015

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/03/g ... ice-probe/
If lying in media interviews and using the threat of legal action to force a constituent to issue a misleading statement is serious — one wonders what exactly Shapps told the police about his work for his family company, whose dodgy Google-manipulating software was subject to an investigation which concluded its sale may have constituted “an offence of fraud”.

RobertSnozers wrote:

PorFavor wrote:

RobertSnozers wrote:Morning

Anyone else distinctly fed up with the wall-to-wall TV and billboard ads proclaiming how wonderful the government is? You sometimes see more than one in a single advert break. That's our money they're spending! Money they insist we don't have. Any idea how much? Not too late for an FOI request.

Yes - I've been moaning about it here for a little while. I've counted six different ads but there may be more. Do you have a running total?

No, I should have made a note, but I can think of Pensionwise, Help to Buy, Automatic enrolment - not only things the coalition has introduced, but are strongly associated with the coalition (especially the Tories).

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Given the what I thought was well-known support that the Graun had for the Lib Dems, you have to wonder at the sheer dimwittery of this:

Nadhim Zahawi ✔ @nadhimzahawi
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@grantshapps is clearly scaring the Labour Party, hence the hatchet job this am from @guardian. Old story rehashed to help out hapless Eds.
10:50 AM - 16 Mar 2015

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

Narxist. Definitely adding that to my dictionary.
https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/narxism/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Downing Street has welcomed Grant Shapps’ decision to admit that he was wrong to say that he never had a second job while he was an MP.

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PM spokesman The PM thinks Grant Shapps has done the right thing in acknowledging he has made a mistake. (Andrew Sparrow, Guardian)

StephenDolan wrote:Latest YouGov has London VI Conservatives 37%, Labour 37%.

Whaaaaaaa?

StephenDolan wrote:Latest YouGov has London VI Conservatives 37%, Labour 37%.

Whaaaaaaa?

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Danny Alexander getting bandwidth for his renouncement of a "Review" into Business Rates.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ate-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have two questions about this?

Firstly, is it Tory policy, Lib Dem policy or both?

Second, if the Review is established by the Treasury, will it get in the way of Labour's promise to cut Business Rates?

frightful_oik wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:Latest YouGov has London VI Conservatives 37%, Labour 37%.

Whaaaaaaa?

Is that a new poll or the ST one Stephen?

frightful_oik wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:Latest YouGov has London VI Conservatives 37%, Labour 37%.

Whaaaaaaa?

Is that a new poll or the ST one Stephen?

Before this concession, Shapps had gone to extraordinary lengths to insist he had never been Michael Green. Last November, the Tory party chairman used legal threats to force a local constituent and ex-Labour councillor to delete an allegedly libellous post on a Facebook group about his use of the pseudonym and replace it with an apology that explicitly states that he was not using the Michael Green pseudonym when he was an MP.

In papers seen by the Guardian, Shapp’s lawyers wrote to the constituent noting “your agreement to post an apology requires you [to] make a ‘new’ post [ie a post on the ‘homepage’ of the group, and not a comment on another post]”. The lawyers said Shapps wanted the apology to read: “Mr Shapps MP has at no time misled over the use of a pen name. Indeed, I now understand that he openly published his full name alongside business publications making it clear that he used a pen name merely to separate business and politics, prior to entering parliament.”

adam wrote:Can someone remind Shapps and his yay-sayers about this

Before this concession, Shapps had gone to extraordinary lengths to insist he had never been Michael Green. Last November, the Tory party chairman used legal threats to force a local constituent and ex-Labour councillor to delete an allegedly libellous post on a Facebook group about his use of the pseudonym and replace it with an apology that explicitly states that he was not using the Michael Green pseudonym when he was an MP.

In papers seen by the Guardian, Shapp’s lawyers wrote to the constituent noting “your agreement to post an apology requires you [to] make a ‘new’ post [ie a post on the ‘homepage’ of the group, and not a comment on another post]”. The lawyers said Shapps wanted the apology to read: “Mr Shapps MP has at no time misled over the use of a pen name. Indeed, I now understand that he openly published his full name alongside business publications making it clear that he used a pen name merely to separate business and politics, prior to entering parliament.”

Fromthe Guardian article that broke the story.

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:Latest YouGov has London VI Conservatives 37%, Labour 37%.

Whaaaaaaa?

Is that a new poll or the ST one Stephen?

It is yesterday's Sunday Times poll. However you cut it that London figure is not credible, Yougov have finally sacrificed the right to be taken seriously.

citizenJA wrote:

adam wrote:Can someone remind Shapps and his yay-sayers about this

Before this concession, Shapps had gone to extraordinary lengths to insist he had never been Michael Green. Last November, the Tory party chairman used legal threats to force a local constituent and ex-Labour councillor to delete an allegedly libellous post on a Facebook group about his use of the pseudonym and replace it with an apology that explicitly states that he was not using the Michael Green pseudonym when he was an MP.

In papers seen by the Guardian, Shapp’s lawyers wrote to the constituent noting “your agreement to post an apology requires you [to] make a ‘new’ post [ie a post on the ‘homepage’ of the group, and not a comment on another post]”. The lawyers said Shapps wanted the apology to read: “Mr Shapps MP has at no time misled over the use of a pen name. Indeed, I now understand that he openly published his full name alongside business publications making it clear that he used a pen name merely to separate business and politics, prior to entering parliament.”

Fromthe Guardian article that broke the story.

Can you believe that shit?
Demanding a made-to-order apology with legal threats & all the while the little piece of work still lying?
It's unacceptable for some people to get away with intimidating others using their position of authority.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

frightful_oik wrote: Is that a new poll or the ST one Stephen?

It is yesterday's Sunday Times poll. However you cut it that London figure is not credible, Yougov have finally sacrificed the right to be taken seriously.

That is harsh on YouGov.

Rule one of polling is you cannot split up bits of a poll and claim it tells you much about the thing you are looking at. Over the whole poll sampling errors will largely cancel each other out, but within a small sample they may be huge. Remember when arch muppet Harris played this game to "show" Tories were ahead with young people?

The only way to know how London is going to vote is to poll it, which YouGov have done. The London poll showed a decent Labour lead.

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Dead important this, vote for the national bird of Britain.

Torn between a blackbird, lovely song, red kite, see them while out in the garden, kingfisher, always a delight, though only see a flash of azure blue, or a robin, who always puts a smile on my chops.

Decisions, decisions.

http://www.votenationalbird.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Dead important this, vote for the national bird of Britain.

Torn between a blackbird, lovely song, red kite, see them while out in the garden, kingfisher, always a delight, though only see a flash of azure blue, or a robin, who always puts a smile on my chops.

Decisions, decisions.

http://www.votenationalbird.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I voted for Blackbird, my choice in the first round as well

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Dead important this, vote for the national bird of Britain.

Torn between a blackbird, lovely song, red kite, see them while out in the garden, kingfisher, always a delight, though only see a flash of azure blue, or a robin, who always puts a smile on my chops.

Decisions, decisions.

http://www.votenationalbird.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Dead important this, vote for the national bird of Britain.

Torn between a blackbird, lovely song, red kite, see them while out in the garden, kingfisher, always a delight, though only see a flash of azure blue, or a robin, who always puts a smile on my chops.

Decisions, decisions.

http://www.votenationalbird.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I voted for Blackbird, my choice in the first round as well