Saturday 21st & Sunday 22nd March 2015 -

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 9:30 am

letsskiptotheleft wrote:
Spacedone wrote:Tories revive Thatcher’s right-to-buy
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/new ... 2015_03_21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't see the full story but this bit caught my eye.

Under plans to be announced next month, the Conservatives are also set to order councils to sell off big expensive council houses to pay for a larger number of cheaper homes.
Ah... those would be the 'big expensive homes' that councils can't fill because nobody wants to pay the big expensive Bedroom Tax?

Have a big family? Tough, no social housing for you.

I'd like "big expensive homes" to bed defined first, a three bedroom in London could come under that.

And probably will. Can't have poor people taking up valuable space in the 'World's Capital City', lowering the property prices with their very presence.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 9:49 am

FFS, Marr just said that Labour have "£30bn austerity cuts".

This is the softest of interviews of Wee-'Eck.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 9:59 am

Can someone please gag Soubry? Ah, no need the program's ended.

Dear god she's an un-likeable person.

Post by **adam** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 10:06 am

51A wrote:You know no-one will tell us where the benefits cuts will fall? Well how how about this: We all unlock our pensions, then if we fall on hard times because of "austerity", we have funds if we are between 55 and 67. There must be well over Gideon's £30 billion there.

No other explanation.

This, and all of the issues around these pension plans, needs to be said much more and much louder. The tories just jerk off the 'we trust people with their money' response, but the entire fucking point of pensions is that people can't be trusted to be responsible enough with retirement income because they will always fuck it up and you can only make it work by forcing people into a 'responsible' hands-off approach to their own stuff.

There is good, positive and productive work to be done stopping the shills from the city bleeding our savings dry over the years and offering fuck all at the end of it but Osborne's plans just involved giving an addict the key to the medicine cupboard.

Edited to add - I appear to have got a tad annoyed whilst typing that. No apology.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:01 am

51A wrote:You know no-one will tell us where the benefits cuts will fall? Well how how about this: We all unlock our pensions, then if we fall on hard times because of "austerity", we have funds if we are between 55 and 67. There must be well over Gideon's £30 billion there.

No other explanation.

There's also the VAT rise which will reduce the amount of cuts. And of course he'll go over budget anyway like he did this time.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:09 am

Good morning.

I doff my cap in the direction of Ephe, 14 years, no small achievement. Hope the cake was plentiful and tasty. And I doff my cap in the direction of utopiandreams too.

I don't doff my cap in the direction of Mr Amin, fancy being stung by 'Tommy Robinson', that redefines the word stupidity. DHP et al, I don't think this is the Mail coming out for UKIP (the Telegraph have that one covered) simply them doing their trademark "all Muslims are untrustworthy" number; the fact he is a Tory may well have been inconvenient, but incidental to their main narrative.

Interestingly the hedge fund Labour donor story really gained little traction, despite the best efforts of the perpetually thirsty wotsisname and Mr Shapps-Green; hard to whip the unwashed masses into a state of righteous indignation when you're having to fight so many of your own colleagues shooting themselves in the foot.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:29 am

51A wrote:
Eric_WLothian wrote:
Ed Miliband unveils offensive linking SNP to Tories

The dossier, which is to be sent to households as a leaflet, contains an analysis of voting by the House of Commons library showing that, between 2001 and 2005, when the SNP and Tories both voted they went into the same division lobby 64 per cent of the time. The figure increased between 2005 and 2010, the period of the last Labour government, when the Tories and SNP voted together 71 per cent of the time.

Crucially, the numbers are higher for Budget and finance votes with the SNP voting with the Tories 68 per cent of the time 2001 to 2005 and 88 per cent between 2005 and 2010.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3725108
I don't think it's useful to discourage the Scots. On they whole they are socialist, it might take some a while to come back to Labour but I don't think it's useful right now to shout at those that wanted independence. Can't blame them for wanting that, a quiet word would be much better. It's easy for those who live in England (as I did most of my life) to think it is the UK, it's not, you know.

Discourage the Scots from what? Is it not the purpose of all political campaigns to discourage the electorate from voting for the opposition, while encouraging them to vote for your party?
I would question your premise that Scotland is predominantly socialist. Pre-Thatcher, Scotland returned around 20 Tory MPs (peaking at 30+ in the 50s). Don't forget that the country is largely rural - traditional Tory territory. The collapse of the Tories roughly coincided with the rise of the Liberals, with Labour continuing to hold around 40 seats, mainly in the cities. The SNP have only once (1974) returned more than 7 MPs.
I don't think anybody is shouting at the minority who want independence - it's not even mentioned in the article. What the campaign is doing is debunking the myth that the SNP are in some way a socialist party.
As for it not being the UK - 55% of Scottish voters want it to be!

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:30 am

I know it's the daily Spite but if this is true, what a despicable man Colin Dow is & he ought to be ashamed of himself.

Labour MP Frank Field has complained angrily to Green Party leader Natalie Bennett over claims a Green protester tried to photograph him after he had a heart attack.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3V74Opzcd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:31 am

I'm sure Alex Salmond said on Marr that the SNP would not agree to a C&S arrangement with Labour yet this is exactly what he told Murnaghan they would do.

I will check the transcripts later, when they become available.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:12 pm

Good morfternoon.

Close of nominations for GE candidates is 4pm, 9th April. The Conservatives and UKIP might have to get their skates on.

Edited to add -

Or do they just slot in the runners-up? I don't know what the drill is.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:37 pm

pk1 wrote:I'm sure Alex Salmond said on Marr that the SNP would not agree to a C&S arrangement with Labour yet this is exactly what he told Murnaghan they would do.

I will check the transcripts later, when they become available.

I think he said that C&S was possible, but vote by vote was probable.

Considering he's not party leader any more, he was very confident of what they would and wouldn't do. Also talking up another Indy vote, even though he has ruled it out for a generation.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:44 pm

pk1 wrote:I know it's the daily Spite but if this is true, what a despicable man Colin Dow is & he ought to be ashamed of himself.

Labour MP Frank Field has complained angrily to Green Party leader Natalie Bennett over claims a Green protester tried to photograph him after he had a heart attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3V74Opzcd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'‘Had I been closer, I would have taken a picture,’' he said.

It isn't often I swear but what a nasty little $*&*. The Greens are welcome to him.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:20 pm

I was listening to LBC 25-30 minutes ago as I walked back home and felt like punching the air in celebration as one of the callers ripped to shreds every argument put to her about the so-called benefits of selling off social housing. They kept trying to throw in Bob Crow every now and again as a deflection but she was having none of it. She even mentioned how councils are in the stupid position of having to rent back at inflated prices properties they've just been forced to sell and that the taxpayer is footing the extra bill at both ends with a taxpayer subsidy on buying it and a taxpayer subsidy on renting it via increased housing benefit costs.

Edit: infalted prices? Stupid fat fingers.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:28 pm

Interesting Sunday Times article about how Osborne is 'doing a Gordon Brown' as right-wngers love to keep mentioning and raiding people's pensions by almost halving the threshold beyond which they have to pay a 55% tax on their pension.

Osborne’s pension raid will penalise the prudent
Even workers earning the minimum wage could build up savings big enough to be caught by chancellor’s new tax
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/bus ... f46035090d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:31 pm

refitman wrote:
pk1 wrote:I'm sure Alex Salmond said on Marr that the SNP would not agree to a C&S arrangement with Labour yet this is exactly what he told Murnaghan they would do.

I will check the transcripts later, when they become available.
I think he said that C&S was possible, but vote by vote was probable.

Considering he's not party leader any more, he was very confident of what they would and wouldn't do. Also talking up another Indy vote, even though he has ruled it out for a generation.

He really isn't interested in what the majority of Scots actually want is he?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:38 pm

Good-afternoon, friends.

51A & Eric_WLothian - regarding your two posts regarding the SNP on this thread, please accept my thanks, both of you, for your opinions. I can't know what I'm not taught. Your company here helps me understand the sensitivities, issues, concerns, about the SNP, Scotland & the rest of country. I'm not able to get detailed or personal observations from friends here in my area or on more anonymous news outlets.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:39 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
Spacedone wrote:Interesting Sunday Time article about how Osborne is 'doing a Gordon Brown' as right-wngers love to keep mentioning and raiding people's pensions by almost halving the threshold beyond which they have to pay a 55% tax on their pension.

Osborne’s pension raid will penalise those with sufficient wealth to afford to put large amounts by
Even workers earning the minimum wage could build up savings big enough to be caught by chancellor’s new tax
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/bus ... f46035090d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fixed that for you, Sunday Times.

My excuse is that I'm full of Yorkshire Pudding and now basking lazily in the sunshine. It's not conducive to correct speeling.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:46 pm

Spacedone wrote:
My excuse is that I'm full of Yorkshire Pudding and now basking lazily in the sunshine. It's not conducive to correct speeling.

You should get PF, our in-house edit-junkie, onto that sort of thing for you.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:51 pm

Hello all.

Just given FTN an utterly shameless plug on Twitter (again)

There is a very good article by Paul Rutherford on the comments - and the reporting of the comments - made by Rachel Reeves the other day.
I agree with everything he says - and he says it much better than I did the other day!

See underoccupied.net

Thanks to all for the nice comments on my sober birthday.
The cake involved salted caramel and was totally scrumptious to the point I could feel it doing me active harm....

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:56 pm

ephemerid wrote:Hello all.

Just given FTN an utterly shameless plug on Twitter (again)

There is a very good article by Paul Rutherford on the comments - and the reporting of the comments - made by Rachel Reeves the other day.
I agree with everything he says - and he says it much better than I did the other day!

See underoccupied.net

Thanks to all for the nice comments on my sober birthday.
The cake involved salted caramel and was totally scrumptious to the point I could feel it doing me active harm....

my bold

One of the finest taste combinations ever.
Congratulations again, Ephemerid.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:00 pm

The Telegraph has an article which says IDS claims he has saved £1 Billion for a grateful nation through the bedroom tax.

Do you believe him? I don't.

The original plan was to save £500 Million - that was found to be very unlikely, especially when the costs of the DHP was taken into consideration; plus the fact that the private sector rents paid for by HB/LHA by those forced to move are higher.

There are many complex reasons why the HB bill has gone up by a billion a year every year since 2010 - but a proportion, however small, may well be higher rents having to be paid by HB for people who have moved to the private sector.

Of course, some people pay their bedroom tax and just have less to live on; so it's possible there are some savings. But a billion?

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:03 pm

Re - shameless plugs.....

The lovely JayneL has joined us today - welcome Jayne.

I'll put the kettle on and I'm sure someone's got some cake. (You can't have mine, I scoffed the lot)

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:15 pm

refitman wrote:
pk1 wrote:I'm sure Alex Salmond said on Marr that the SNP would not agree to a C&S arrangement with Labour yet this is exactly what he told Murnaghan they would do.

I will check the transcripts later, when they become available.
I think he said that C&S was possible, but vote by vote was probable.

Considering he's not party leader any more, he was very confident of what they would and wouldn't do. Also talking up another Indy vote, even though he has ruled it out for a generation.

...which is why the Labour Party shouldn't touch the SNP with a bargepole, either in coalition or formal C&S - they're just not reliable.

The former first minister said the party would demand the scrapping of Trident as the price of entering a “confidence and supply” agreement with Ed Miliband.
But he said the “more likely” situation would be Labour and the SNP working together on a vote-by-vote basis - including detailed negotiations about Budget packages.

Trident again

It's an SNP red line. It's not an SNP red line... They're like the LibDems - their principles sway in the political breeze.

Of course, without an agreement, the SNP MPs can vote with whatever party they want, which could be interesting!

As to not being the party leader, all I can say is 'who is pulling the strings?'

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-hol ... -1-3725351

Edited to add evidence of LibDem principles and political breezes:

Former Lib Dem leader Lord Wallace, who is currently serving as Westminster’s legal adviser on Scotland, believes that a future government would agree to another referendum being underpinned by statute to give it legitimacy.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/uk-may- ... -1-3725319

I used to think quite highly of Jim Wallace!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:24 pm

Without going into all the ins and outs of Scottish politics, I'd bet my boots Nicola Sturgeon is getting totally pissed off with being by-passed by Salmond and ignored by Dave. I know I would be.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:31 pm

Health secretary claims Crawley Hospital has 204 extra doctors and nurses when it only has 89 in total

http://www.crawleynews.co.uk/Department ... z3V7nnCi7E

Is there a single Tory that doesn't tell blatant lies?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:44 pm

I'm still puzzling over Anna Soubry's urging Afzal Amin to "hold his head up". Did she, perhaps, mean "hold up his hands to"? Anyway, judging from what I've seen on the news, Dudley North wants rid of Azil Amin.

I'm quite amused by the memory of the Conservative's sudden discovery of "The Black Country" (last PMQs) when they mentioned the area repeatedly.

Edited

I spelled Afzal Amin's name incorrectly. Sloppy.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 2:47 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Health secretary claims Crawley Hospital has 204 extra doctors and nurses when it only has 89 in total

http://www.crawleynews.co.uk/Department ... z3V7nnCi7E
Is there a single Tory that doesn't tell blatant lies?

Yes.

Dominic Grieve.

But they got rid of him.

Next!

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 3:01 pm

PorFavor wrote:I'm still puzzling over Anna Soubry's urging Azil Amin to "hold his head up". Did she, perhaps, mean "hold up his hands to"? Anyway, judging from what I've seen on the news, Dudley North wants rid of Azil Amin.

I'm quite amused by the memory of the Conservative's sudden discovery of "The Black Country" (last PMQs) when they mentioned the area repeatedly.

Come ON, PorFavor!

Anna knows exactly what she means. She wants Mr.Amin to "hold his head up". And why shouldn't he? Poor dab.
He should be proud, proud, proud of doing what Tories do. He is absolutely perfect as a Tory.

This woman is a barrister and a media expert (oh yes) thus in full command of the language she chooses to use. All the time.
(When not sucking lemons)

When she says things like "I am ashamed of living in Nottingham" (whilst hoping to be elected to a Notts constituency) or "Nigel Farage looks like someone with their finger up their bottom", she is displaying nothing more than her media-savviness.

There is no truth at all in any of the things she is alleged to have said and done in her Wikipedia entry or anywhere else. No Ma'am.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 3:15 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 3:38 pm

PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.

Oh, all right then, don't. See if I care . . . .

Edited to remove unwanted comma

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 3:48 pm

PorFavor wrote:
PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
Oh, all right then, don't. See if I care . . . .

Edited to remove unwanted comma

Dear editor,
I did, as instructed attempt to view said ad - but being currently located in an alternative universe got an ad for a local supermarket.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 3:56 pm

PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.

I didn't see any advert so either adblock is doing a bloody marvellous job or I'm going even more blind than I thought....

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:00 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
Oh, all right then, don't. See if I care . . . .

Edited to remove unwanted comma
Dear editor,
I did, as instructed attempt to view said ad - but being currently located in an alternative universe got an ad for a local supermarket.

Whereas I got one promising to teach me "How To Play A Soulful, Hard Hitting Blues Solo With Just 4 Notes"
*wonders off, wondering what I could have seen.. if only...

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:04 pm

I appear to be now suffering from "other-people's-ad envy".

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:11 pm

It's a cartoon in a sort of film-noir style (it's actually not a bad effort) and it's a Conservative Party broadcast (logo and all). It's called "Alex Salmond calls the tune" complete with Alex Salmond travelling to, and walking into, 10 Downing Street where he plays a pipe to a dancing Ed Miliband.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:13 pm

PorFavor wrote:It's a cartoon in a sort of film-noir style (it's actually not a bad effort) and it's a Conservative Party broadcast (logo and all). It's called "Alex Salmond calls the tune" complete with Alex Salmond travelling to, and walking into, 10 Downing Street where he plays a pipe to a dancing Ed Miliband.

spooky

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:14 pm

Thanks for taking the trouble to try, everyone.

@ RobertSnozers

I wonder how many other things it's been attached to. And I don't even much like the tune I was looking for - it was just done on a whim.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:20 pm

And how will we know when\if they stop?

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:22 pm

I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:23 pm

pk1 wrote:I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.

Yes - that's it! Thank you.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:28 pm

pk1 wrote:I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.

Now that Is weird ! I don't know what they hope it will achieve ...

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:31 pm

pk1 wrote:I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.

Good Lord. Those superior Tory brains really are something.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:50 pm

ephemerid wrote:Hello all.

Just given FTN an utterly shameless plug on Twitter (again)

There is a very good article by Paul Rutherford on the comments - and the reporting of the comments - made by Rachel Reeves the other day.
I agree with everything he says - and he says it much better than I did the other day!

See underoccupied.net

Thanks to all for the nice comments on my sober birthday.
The cake involved salted caramel and was totally scrumptious to the point I could feel it doing me active harm....

Many congratulations Ephie - that's a hard road to tread, and you should feel proud.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:04 pm

pk1 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
I didn't see any advert so either adblock is doing a bloody marvellous job or I'm going even more blind than I thought....

Adblock for me too. Saves me from having to view tedious/insulting Tory election propaganda every time I visit Youtube. Love it.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:07 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
pk1 wrote:I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.
Good Lord. Those superior Tory brains really are something.

"Comments are disabled..."

There's a shock...

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:13 pm

pk1 wrote:I suspect that what you saw was the new Con attack ad:

[youtube]6JeYlBRvUeE[/youtube]

'Bizarre' was the thought that sprung to my mind initially.

Do you remember the whining from the Right when Labour released The Un-credible Shrinking Man? Looks increasingly like a filmic masterpiece in comparison to these Tory attacks.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:18 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Do you remember the whining from the Right when Labour released The Un-credible Shrinking Man? Looks increasingly like a filmic masterpiece in comparison to these Tory attacks.

I certainly do, although that was more by the LDs than the Cons - fully accept it's hard to distinguish between them nowadays.

I was however, genuinely speechless when I saw this particular effort.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:30 pm

pk1 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Do you remember the whining from the Right when Labour released The Un-credible Shrinking Man? Looks increasingly like a filmic masterpiece in comparison to these Tory attacks.
I certainly do, although that was more by the LDs than the Cons - fully accept it's hard to distinguish between them nowadays.

I was however, genuinely speechless when I saw this particular effort & I've now shown it to my other half who simply shook his head & walked away

I think I'm going to be a dissenting voice here. I find it rather alarmingly effective. I can't quite put my finger on who the main (and uninformed, obvs) target audience is meant to be but that could work either way. It may appeal to a lot of people in a scattergun\blunderbuss fashion or a very few. Let's hope for the latter, but I'm not too sure. Sorry for stating the bleedin' obvious but I find it worrying - and ignoring it won't make it go away.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:38 pm

Well, I am thinking WTActualF is that funny little film......well done for finding it, PF. It's hysterical.
I thought about Rod Argent when I heard that "hold your head" thing from Lemon-gob today. He was gorgeous once.....but I digress!

We've had the German autobahn, a little pocket Miliband, the "Don't let them do it again" video removed because it breached copyright ...

The Cons website is a thing of wonder.
How about a fridge magnet bearing the legend "THE ECONOMY - Labour break it, the Conservatives fix it" - yours for £10.
Or - if you share all this marvellous stuff you get "rewards" (doesn't say what they are - a Miliband doll, perhaps?)

These people are bonkers.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 5:41 pm

PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.

Got it.

My JavaScript plug-ins harmonised in time to critique that creepy Tory advert.
Andrew Rawnsley's latest effort on the G (thank you Spacedone) claims Osborne's popularity ratings form the Tory hope of remaining in government. Jeff is approved by about a third of the population. They're all taking something & it's messing with their cognitive ability.