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ephemerid wrote:Well, I am thinking WTActualF is that funny little film......well done for finding it, PF. It's hysterical.
I thought about Rod Argent when I heard that "hold your head" thing from Lemon-gob today. He was gorgeous once.....but I digress!

We've had the German autobahn, a little pocket Miliband, the "Don't let them do it again" video removed because it breached copyright ...

The Cons website is a thing of wonder.
How about a fridge magnet bearing the legend "THE ECONOMY - Labour break it, the Conservatives fix it" - yours for £10.
Or - if you share all this marvellous stuff you get "rewards" (doesn't say what they are - a Miliband doll, perhaps?)

These people are bonkers.

Perhaps I'm just suffering from shock. As with the Spanish Inquisition, I wasn't expecting it! I'll probably recover in due course.
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PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
What party political film, PF? I got an ad for England in the Six Nations, I think... I skipped it!
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PorFavor wrote:It's a cartoon in a sort of film-noir style (it's actually not a bad effort) and it's a Conservative Party broadcast (logo and all). It's called "Alex Salmond calls the tune" complete with Alex Salmond travelling to, and walking into, 10 Downing Street where he plays a pipe to a dancing Ed Miliband.
Urgh! How horrible. Glad I didn't see that one.

Edit to add Oh dear, I've seen it now. But why is he playing the theme tune to Arena? It was Arena, wasn't it?
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PorFavor wrote:
pk1 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
Do you remember the whining from the Right when Labour released The Un-credible Shrinking Man? Looks increasingly like a filmic masterpiece in comparison to these Tory attacks.
I certainly do, although that was more by the LDs than the Cons - fully accept it's hard to distinguish between them nowadays.

I was however, genuinely speechless when I saw this particular effort & I've now shown it to my other half who simply shook his head & walked away ;)
I think I'm going to be a dissenting voice here. I find it rather alarmingly effective. I can't quite put my finger on who the main (and uninformed, obvs) target audience is meant to be but that could work either way. It may appeal to a lot of people in a scattergun\blunderbuss fashion or a very few. Let's hope for the latter, but I'm not too sure. Sorry for stating the bleedin' obvious but I find it worrying - and ignoring it won't make it go away.
Yes, you're right. Tories are going to love it. Stupid of the Tories to whack at Salmond & the SNP by hooking them up with Labour in order to get people to vote Tory, in my opinion.
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@ ephemerid

Weren't Argent, or some semblance of them, meant to be getting together again? Some sort of collaboration with Colin Blunstone? I can't remember - but, ah, Colin Blunstone!
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LadyCentauria wrote:
PorFavor wrote:It's a cartoon in a sort of film-noir style (it's actually not a bad effort) and it's a Conservative Party broadcast (logo and all). It's called "Alex Salmond calls the tune" complete with Alex Salmond travelling to, and walking into, 10 Downing Street where he plays a pipe to a dancing Ed Miliband.
Urgh! How horrible. Glad I didn't see that one.
That effort was purchased at great cost. Nothing gratuitously offensive. A dark Tory fairy tale.
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LadyCentauria wrote:
PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
What party political film, PF? I got an ad for England in the Six Nations, I think... I skipped it!
Hello. If you back-track up the thread, you'll see it provided by those more competent than I am!
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PorFavor wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
PorFavor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVOHAkRdZ0

I was moved to look for "Hold Your Head Up" (Argent) on Youtube (link above).

Imagine my surprise when I saw the ad\Party Political film-let attached thereto. Do, please, check it out.
What party political film, PF? I got an ad for England in the Six Nations, I think... I skipped it!
Hello. If you back-track up the thread, you'll see it provided by those more competent than I am!
Seen it now, thanks :) But I still don't know why they've got him playing the Arena theme tune instead of something Scottish...
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Never mind, you don't need them to agree to your EU renegotiations.

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Never mind, you don't need them to agree to your EU renegotiations.

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So not Greece, then? Things are looking up already . . .
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PorFavor wrote:@ ephemerid

Weren't Argent, or some semblance of them, meant to be getting together again? Some sort of collaboration with Colin Blunstone? I can't remember - but, ah, Colin Blunstone!

Oooohhhh..........

Stop it, Por.

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PorFavor wrote:@ ephemerid

Weren't Argent, or some semblance of them, meant to be getting together again? Some sort of collaboration with Colin Blunstone? I can't remember - but, ah, Colin Blunstone!
Colin Blunstone & Rod Argent have been touring, in a limited way, as The Zombies since 2008; a quick look at their website shows an upcoming gig in London.

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@ TheGrimSqueaker

Thanks for the information.
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PorFavor wrote:@ TheGrimSqueaker

Thanks for the information.
No problem. I caught them a year or so back, they've still got It.
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Roger might know.

Looks like an interesting spot.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Never mind, you don't need them to agree to your EU renegotiations.

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The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Roger might know.

Looks like an interesting spot.
Unbelieveable. The head's up came from another commentator posting elsewhere. I nearly fell off my chair.

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yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Look at who's being reported as being among the 'demonstrators'. Those weren't demonstrators, Farage! They're other families enjoying a day out as far as that description goes.
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citizenJA wrote:
The Curzon Institute is an internationally focussed, non-partisan organisation founded by defence and security analysts, social scientists, historians and educationalists which provides a range of services to policymakers and practitioners within the UK and the European Union.

The Institute's work is focussed on addressing the issues facing UK and European Union governmental agencies and public and private sector organisations in their interactions with their minority communities, and wherever UK and European Union personnel are employed abroad.

The Education Branch specialises in the provision of free-to-end-user products to schools, colleges, prisons, youth services and other bodies. Using the latest media technologies and the best delivery methodology, the Educational Branch ensures that partners communicate with their intended audience in the most effective manner.


http://www.curzoninstitute.org/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
RogerOThornhill or Tubby Isaacs? Any word on the Curzon Institute contracts in education? Are they involved with Free schools (Academies)?
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http://www.curzoninstitute.org/aamin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Might be wrong but in the back of my (admittedly small) mind I seem to recall Sayeeda Warsi giving the a government grant at some point. Or am I mixed up ?
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citizenJA wrote:
The Curzon Institute is an internationally focussed, non-partisan organisation founded by defence and security analysts, social scientists, historians and educationalists which provides a range of services to policymakers and practitioners within the UK and the European Union.

The Institute's work is focussed on addressing the issues facing UK and European Union governmental agencies and public and private sector organisations in their interactions with their minority communities, and wherever UK and European Union personnel are employed abroad.

The Education Branch specialises in the provision of free-to-end-user products to schools, colleges, prisons, youth services and other bodies. Using the latest media technologies and the best delivery methodology, the Educational Branch ensures that partners communicate with their intended audience in the most effective manner.


http://www.curzoninstitute.org/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
RogerOThornhill or Tubby Isaacs? Any word on the Curzon Institute contracts in education? Are they involved with Free schools (Academies)?
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He joins the Curzon Team as an advisor on specific projects supporting community cohesion in the UK and international stabilisation and development.


http://www.curzoninstitute.org/aamin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nope, haven't come across them at all.

I guess they might be rethinking their relationship with Mr Amin now...
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AngryAsWell wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
The Curzon Institute is an internationally focussed, non-partisan organisation founded by defence and security analysts, social scientists, historians and educationalists which provides a range of services to policymakers and practitioners within the UK and the European Union.

The Institute's work is focussed on addressing the issues facing UK and European Union governmental agencies and public and private sector organisations in their interactions with their minority communities, and wherever UK and European Union personnel are employed abroad.

The Education Branch specialises in the provision of free-to-end-user products to schools, colleges, prisons, youth services and other bodies. Using the latest media technologies and the best delivery methodology, the Educational Branch ensures that partners communicate with their intended audience in the most effective manner.


http://www.curzoninstitute.org/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
RogerOThornhill or Tubby Isaacs? Any word on the Curzon Institute contracts in education? Are they involved with Free schools (Academies)?
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Afzal Amin has just left the British Army after 11 years service. A commissioned officer and graduate of Sandhurst, Afzal has been recently employed as a strategist in Kabul focussed on Conflict Termination and Peace building.

He joins the Curzon Team as an advisor on specific projects supporting community cohesion in the UK and international stabilisation and development.


http://www.curzoninstitute.org/aamin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Might be wrong but in the back of my (admittedly small) mind I seem to recall Sayeeda Warsi giving the a government grant at some point. Or am I mixed up ?
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citizenJA wrote:
yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Look at who's being reported as being among the 'demonstrators'. Those weren't demonstrators, Farage! They're other families enjoying a day out as far as that description goes.
Not judging by the pics JA.

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They also must have ruined it for other people there.
Also a bit dangerous impeding the path of the car, if one of the children had got hurt they'd have been wailing 'Nigel Farage's car hit my child'.
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Well I'm a bit torn by this. If you advocate the politics of the fucktard, you really should expect some comeback.
Obviously not nice for his family, but his wife could always leave him and take the kids somewhere saner.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Never mind, you don't need them to agree to your EU renegotiations.

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yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Normally I'd agree but, he has no compunction about spouting controversial opinions which would disrupt those people's lives. He's responsible for an upsurge in 'nastiness' across the whole country and at the same time he's making pot loads of money paid by the taxpayer. If I was his family I'd be ashamed to be seen with him.

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Good Evening :)

Just seen Sky's trailer for the debates. Is it just me, or have they deliberately picked a poor picture of Ed? He looks a bit like he's staring vacantly into the distance, all wide-eyed. Or am I just being overly sensitive?
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ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Normally I'd agree but, he has no compunction about spouting controversial opinions which would disrupt those people's lives. He's responsible for an upsurge in 'nastiness' across the whole country and at the same time he's making pot loads of money paid by the taxpayer. If I was his family I'd be ashamed to be seen with him.

I've no sympathy at all.
It seems he left his children behind...

"The Ukip leader, who is thought to have left in a car driven by his wife, said that a relative had returned to the pub and his children were later found safe. Farage’s children with his wife, Kirsten, are Victoria and Isabelle, thought to be aged 15 and 10 respectively. He also has two grownup children from his previous marriage."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... f-pub-scum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very odd, nothing would persuade me to leave kids - anyone's kids - in a situation I felt was dangerous or threatening.
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ephemerid wrote:
PorFavor wrote:@ ephemerid

Weren't Argent, or some semblance of them, meant to be getting together again? Some sort of collaboration with Colin Blunstone? I can't remember - but, ah, Colin Blunstone!

Oooohhhh..........

Stop it, Por.

I'm having a moment. :oops:
Who? I assume it's a popular music group from the olden days. ;)
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daydreamer wrote:Good Evening :)

Just seen Sky's trailer for the debates. Is it just me, or have they deliberately picked a poor picture of Ed? He looks a bit like he's staring vacantly into the distance, all wide-eyed. Or am I just being overly sensitive?
If its the one that makes him look 10 years older, that's the one Sky always use :(
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The BBC seems quite determined to keep Clive Myrie well away from chairing the newspaper review slot. That doesn't surprise me at all. He's lately been posted to foreign parts (first Greece, I think, and then further afield (Nigeria at the moment)). I suppose it could be a promotion.
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AngryAsWell wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Normally I'd agree but, he has no compunction about spouting controversial opinions which would disrupt those people's lives. He's responsible for an upsurge in 'nastiness' across the whole country and at the same time he's making pot loads of money paid by the taxpayer. If I was his family I'd be ashamed to be seen with him.

I've no sympathy at all.
It seems he left his children behind...

"The Ukip leader, who is thought to have left in a car driven by his wife, said that a relative had returned to the pub and his children were later found safe. Farage’s children with his wife, Kirsten, are Victoria and Isabelle, thought to be aged 15 and 10 respectively. He also has two grownup children from his previous marriage."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... f-pub-scum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very odd, nothing would persuade me to leave kids - anyone's kids - in a situation I felt was dangerous or threatening.
Neither would I, AAW. What is it with these people and leaving their kids behind in pubs? First Cameron and now Farage.
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daydreamer wrote:
ephemerid wrote:
PorFavor wrote:@ ephemerid

Weren't Argent, or some semblance of them, meant to be getting together again? Some sort of collaboration with Colin Blunstone? I can't remember - but, ah, Colin Blunstone!

Oooohhhh..........

Stop it, Por.

I'm having a moment. :oops:
Who? I assume it's a popular music group from the olden days. ;)
Ha! Yes - Argent was a popular beat combo and Colin Blunstone was the crooner with The Zombies . . .
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PorFavor wrote:
daydreamer wrote:
ephemerid wrote:
Oooohhhh..........

Stop it, Por.

I'm having a moment. :oops:
Who? I assume it's a popular music group from the olden days. ;)
Ha! Yes - Argent was a popular beat combo and Colin Blunstone was the crooner with The Zombies . . .
Aha! Thanks PF. Still none the wiser, really. Must be too young* :D

(*Though it's always possible I have neither sufficient music knowledge or taste).
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Neil Walshaw ‏@CllrWalshaw · 11m11 minutes ago
Has to be said @RachelReevesMP on fire today about disabled rights, axing the bedroom tax & poverty pay at the #Leeds West campaign launch!
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daydreamer wrote: Who? I assume it's a popular music group from the olden days. ;)
Ha! Yes - Argent was a popular beat combo and Colin Blunstone was the crooner with The Zombies . . .
Aha! Thanks PF. Still none the wiser, really. Must be too young* :D

(*Though it's always possible I have neither sufficient music knowledge or taste).

And I had you down as a high court judge!
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PorFavor wrote:
daydreamer wrote:
PorFavor wrote: Ha! Yes - Argent was a popular beat combo and Colin Blunstone was the crooner with The Zombies . . .
Aha! Thanks PF. Still none the wiser, really. Must be too young* :D

(*Though it's always possible I have neither sufficient music knowledge or taste).

And I had you down as a high court judge!
Cheeky bugger!! :clap:

Edit to add - though I had to think about that, went over my head at first :oops:
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More Kippery
"Tape recording reveals UKIP's internal war over race row candidate Victoria Ayling"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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AngryAsWell wrote:More Kippery
"Tape recording reveals UKIP's internal war over race row candidate Victoria Ayling"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I really don't see what the problem is. After all, she must have passed Ukip's new and stringent vetting procedure. The bad old days are surely behind them.
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This business about Farridge and his family.

Perhaps the protesters made a mistake - but I had to laugh at some of pictures I've seen on Twitter. There's one with a bunch of women and men with their jumpers pulled up and large baby dolls attached to their chests, and they're all having a good laugh.

What I find odd is that somehow the 2 children left/ran away/got lost/whatever, and Mr.& Mrs.F get into their car and tootle off; then apparently a relative "found" them and brought them home. I suspect that the kids went out the back way with the relative and were perfectly OK all the time.
If they ran away, why the hell didn't their parents follow them? It's all a bit peculiar.

Less odd is the Heil's reportage - all those terrible protesters. Gay and disabled people....heaven forfend some of them could have been both!
The breastfeeders, of course, were only pretending. The only omission in their catalogue of undesirables is people called Miliband.
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AngryAsWell wrote:More Kippery
"Tape recording reveals UKIP's internal war over race row candidate Victoria Ayling"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She is heard to say: “I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.”

Um.

Isn't that the 'political correctness' that there's supposed to be so much of these days?
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:More Kippery
"Tape recording reveals UKIP's internal war over race row candidate Victoria Ayling"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She is heard to say: “I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.”

Um.

Isn't that the 'political correctness' that there's supposed to be so much of these days?
I'm quite confident that Ukip will sort out all their little problems (when the renewable energy runs out).
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Ed Miliband has a plan to tackle Tax Evasion. Here it is.

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yahyah wrote:
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yahyah wrote:The Mail are reporting that Farage and his family had their Sunday lunch at a pub ruined by anti-UKIP demonstrators. They say the protesters included ''migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers''. Blimey, add Ralph Miliband and Muslims and it would be a Daily Mail hate list in full.

I don't know how others feel but I think this sort of action may be counterproductive and if people want to set up a protest they should do it when he is on UKIP business, not when he is having a family meal at the weekend.
Look at who's being reported as being among the 'demonstrators'. Those weren't demonstrators, Farage! They're other families enjoying a day out as far as that description goes.
Not judging by the pics JA.



They also must have ruined it for other people there.
Also a bit dangerous impeding the path of the car, if one of the children had got hurt they'd have been wailing 'Nigel Farage's car hit my child'.
I wouldn't want anyone hurt, absolutely true. I wouldn't advise protesting in the way of UKIP people in their moving vehicles either. They look cheerful, Yahyah, those protesters, not very hostile.
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ephemerid wrote:This business about Farridge and his family.

Perhaps the protesters made a mistake - but I had to laugh at some of pictures I've seen on Twitter. There's one with a bunch of women and men with their jumpers pulled up and large baby dolls attached to their chests, and they're all having a good laugh.

What I find odd is that somehow the 2 children left/ran away/got lost/whatever, and Mr.& Mrs.F get into their car and tootle off; then apparently a relative "found" them and brought them home. I suspect that the kids went out the back way with the relative and were perfectly OK all the time.
If they ran away, why the hell didn't their parents follow them? It's all a bit peculiar.

Less odd is the Heil's reportage - all those terrible protesters. Gay and disabled people....heaven forfend some of them could have been both!
The breastfeeders, of course, were only pretending. The only omission in their catalogue of undesirables is people called Miliband.
The other option is that the children were not there in the first place, which is what some of the protesters are saying - who knows? Not me. Although as I said earlier, there is nothing that would persuade me to leave kids - anyone's kids - in a situation I felt was dangerous or threatening.
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ephemerid wrote:This business about Farridge and his family.

Perhaps the protesters made a mistake - but I had to laugh at some of pictures I've seen on Twitter. There's one with a bunch of women and men with their jumpers pulled up and large baby dolls attached to their chests, and they're all having a good laugh.

What I find odd is that somehow the 2 children left/ran away/got lost/whatever, and Mr.& Mrs.F get into their car and tootle off; then apparently a relative "found" them and brought them home. I suspect that the kids went out the back way with the relative and were perfectly OK all the time.
If they ran away, why the hell didn't their parents follow them? It's all a bit peculiar.

Less odd is the Heil's reportage - all those terrible protesters. Gay and disabled people....heaven forfend some of them could have been both!
The breastfeeders, of course, were only pretending. The only omission in their catalogue of undesirables is people called Miliband.
Don't worry, Ephie, I'm sure they'll find a way to work him in next time.
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RobertSnozers wrote:
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PorFavor wrote: I think I'm going to be a dissenting voice here. I find it rather alarmingly effective. I can't quite put my finger on who the main (and uninformed, obvs) target audience is meant to be but that could work either way. It may appeal to a lot of people in a scattergun\blunderbuss fashion or a very few. Let's hope for the latter, but I'm not too sure. Sorry for stating the bleedin' obvious but I find it worrying - and ignoring it won't make it go away.
Yes, you're right. Tories are going to love it. Stupid of the Tories to whack at Salmond & the SNP by hooking them up with Labour in order to get people to vote Tory, in my opinion.
I'm not sure it will do very much. For a start, it doesn't say anything about what Salmond might make Miliband do, unless they think he's literally going to dance a jig, so they fail to specify why it's a bad thing. Secondly, it's only going to appeal to people who don't like Salmond anyway - not sure how much people other than hardline rightwingers really do regard Salmond as the bogeyman. Third, it would take someone very unfamiliar with UK politics to not ask why, when Clegg hasn't exactly forced Cameron to dance to his tune, it be otherwise for Labour and the SNP?

It's pretty crude in its messaging, and I can't see it having much of an effect on the majority of people who see it. But maybe that's 'optimism bias'.
Completely agree with your analysis, Robert. You're right. That's why I wrote it was a dumb effort. 'What are you trying to suggest, here, Tory guys?' I ask. It's not making me want to vote Tory but then I wouldn't anyway. Who'd they hire for the animation, though? The colour & animé were stylish.

On a more serious note, Clegg allowing Cameron to dictate his appearances in the leadership debates is actionable. I've no idea why Clegg has agreed or allowed himself to be intimidated into not representing the Liberal Democrat party as their leader in whatever debate he's invited to by the broadcasters. I don't give a damn about the LibDems or Clegg, I care very much for democracy & freedom from Tory tyranny which is what we're experiencing with Dave's government.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:More Kippery
"Tape recording reveals UKIP's internal war over race row candidate Victoria Ayling"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She is heard to say: “I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.”

Um.

Isn't that the 'political correctness' that there's supposed to be so much of these days?
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