Thursday 26th March

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 8:55 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
StephenDolan wrote: Unfortunately not, which is why Cameron wanted the debates in March.

LC,
Ooh, thank you Rich ginger cake and a tumbler full of sparkling elderflower and blackberry cordial
Happy birthday LC. Hope it's a good one.

Thank you and yes, it is

My son came over to see me and spoil me, I've had loads of calls and texts and messages from friends, and I'm about to have a fish supper delivered xxx

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 8:56 pm

Goodnight, PF.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 8:57 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 8:59 pm

And thank you PorFavor, GetYou, yahyah, and everyone

xxx

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:00 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

NightPF

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:02 pm

If these interviews are 9-10 and 10-11 why does C4 coverage finish at 10:35pm according to the Radio Times?

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:02 pm

Paxo definitely not impressed with Dave's views on foodbank usage.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:04 pm

Good start by Paxman

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:05 pm

Paxman punching!

[1] Food banks. Dave said Labour didn't advertise food banks when they were in power.

ZH Dave says pay isn't that low.

So far Paxman hitting hard.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:07 pm

Sorry I could only stand about 40 seconds of hearing Cameron talking before I had to turn the TV off.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:10 pm

Paxman asks about the rich people Dave's put into government.

Dave showing he's said to the dodgy people he's taken on don't tell me and then I can say I didn't know.

Now Paxman asking about how much government has borrowed. Oh dear, oh dear.

Immigration. Dave says more immigrants because more jobs.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:12 pm

Ha! Paxman just brought up VAT: "You told me twice, to my face, that you wouldn't raise VAT".

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:13 pm

yahyah wrote:... Hopefully someone will live blog it here < hopeful face icon>

Sorry yahyah, only just got in and am having to go out again. Mind you I did catch a classic line (dunno if someone else has covered it). Cameron told Paxo, "That is not the question." To which Paxman replied, "It's the one I'm asking" or words to that effect. I can't tell if audience sound levels have been reduced but they seemed amused; definitely some laughter.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:14 pm

This really, really isn't going well for Cameron so far.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:15 pm

This is car crash TV.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:16 pm

VAT. Paxman says in 2010 you promised not to raise VAT and the minute you got in you did.

Paxman says you said one thing, and did another.

Paxman: Where are the savings going to come from?

Dave's rambling and Paxman is looking pained. Says you talk about transparency but don't tell us what you're going to do.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:18 pm

Theme seems to be 'you say one thing then do the opposite'.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:20 pm

refitman wrote:This really, really isn't going well for Cameron so far.

I'm glad it's not only me...Can't believe the fumbling answers, and nothing new or clearly laid out.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:21 pm

Well, that was quick. Interview over already. Time for the audience Qs.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:23 pm

Audience very quiet and self contained at the moment. A couple of them nodding so you know how they're going to vote regardless.
Lets see if they've taken a leaf out of the oldies book. A nice bit of heckling would liven things up. Otherwise its feeling very flat at the moment.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:24 pm

Pfft, audience first question is ridiculous.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:27 pm

Unfortunately I haven't been able to pay it much attention but did notice Cameron claimed the same £20bn welfare saving during this government as Sajid Javid had last night. Someone had better push them to produce the figures.

You know what has been sorely missing? "I promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:28 pm

Fuck me. What a wooden audience.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:29 pm

And there's silver tongued Dave giving them the old spiel....

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:30 pm

Spacedone wrote:If these interviews are 9-10 and 10-11 why does C4 coverage finish at 10:35pm according to the Radio Times?

18 mins Cameron interview, 18 mins Cameron faces questions from audience, 18 mins Miliband questions from audience, 18 mins Miliband interview plus advert breaks. They'll probably have pundits to fill further gaps and, possibly, to ensure that Cameron leaves the building before Miliband arrives so that they can't possibly encounter each other or be photographed in the same shot...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:31 pm

I think I've just heard Dave say he's going to sell government buildings...

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:32 pm

ohsocynical wrote:I think I've just heard Dave say he's going to sell government buildings...

You did.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:33 pm

Police now.
A policeman in the audience asking what Dave's going to do about cuts.
Nothing as far as I can make out.
He says the police aren't under pressure and crime is coming down.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:33 pm

Has he actually answered any of the audience questions yet? Apart from the softball starter.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:35 pm

Who is choosing these questions? Wooly, easy to answer.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:35 pm

A fact check from the Observer’s economics editor Heather Stewart:

David Cameron claimed that ‘the stock of debt is falling as a percentage of GDP’. George Osborne proudly announced at last week’s budget that it will fall in the coming financial year, 2015-16, but the prime minister is wrong to claim that it’s falling already; and as the Office for Budget Responsibility pointed out, he only achieved this forecast reduction by counting on the proceeds of a sell-off of some of the banking assets the Treasury has owned since the financial crisis.

As I pointed out at the time of the budget and again tonight...they're believing their own lies.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:35 pm

"Well I don't accept that. Blah, blah, blah" Dave's stock response to most everything.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:36 pm

Disabled question now. Nothing about benefits though. About getting them into work and attitudes.
Mr Ohso says the audience is so quiet it's fixed. Disabled woman who asked the question says she's more or less satisfied with his answer....
Sheesh.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:38 pm

Fuck me... Cameron just pretended that we'll join the Euro if Labour are elected. Sorry for the language but that was total bollocks even by his standards.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:40 pm

Sounds a shit audience apart from the last question.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:41 pm

Would you like to see more private services for the NHS
Ivan again.
Dave says private a small proportion. Now talking bout Marie Curie and Macmillan nurses.

Next question. About the NHS. No top down reorganisation.
Lady said her area had to take Dave to court to keep her hospital open.

Dave says biggest promise about the NHS was not to privatise it and they haven't.

More money. Cancer treatment up. treating more patients.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:42 pm

just says economy in every answer.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:43 pm

Mr Ohso disgusted. Says the audience questions were limp and out of touch.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:43 pm

Fuck me, Kay Burley is a useless. Finishing by asking him about shredded wheat??? Give me strength.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:45 pm

Are we expecting a fierce Q&A for Miliband?

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:47 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Fairer funding needs to be applied to Wokingham borough schools after new figures showed they are the worst funded in the country.
Figures published by the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) show that Wokingham borough schools will receive £4,158 per pupil in 2015/16.
This compares against an average of £6,297 per pupil among the 10 best-funded areas.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local- ... ng-8921474
And yet Wokingham - just down the road from Bracknell - is listed as one of the best places in the country to live, and I believe being a Conservative dominated council, didn't suffer such deep funding cuts as elsewhere in the country.

You're right. It didn't.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:47 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Are we expecting a fierce Q&A for Miliband?

Given the standard of those questions I'm expecting something involving either Wallace & Gromit or bacon sandwiches.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:47 pm

Mr Ohso says it's fixed. Ed about to talk to Paxman. We shall see.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:47 pm

Ed's up.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:48 pm

Arsehole with the first question...

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:49 pm

First Q: "Why are you so gloomy".

2nd: "I'm a working class, higher rate tax payer. Why are Labour demonising me?"

FFS

JustMom · Post by **JustMom** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:49 pm

This all set up against Ed.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:50 pm

Kay Burley, shut the fuck up with your "If you're a socialist are you anti-wealth creation."

Post by **refitman** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:50 pm

Now Burley's just asked him if he's "anti-wealth creation".

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:51 pm

Wow a real question.