Monday 30th March 2015: Election Is Go...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:38 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
Spacedone wrote:
ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.
That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."
"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."

Just tried to find the post on Twitter, but can't find it. In short a kipper PPC called for Obama to be kidnapped by the Israelies just as they did Eichman.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:38 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Chilling photograph captured in door of Nr 10 as Cameron announces election campaign

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/03/ ... -campaign/
I wish.....

Absolutely brilliant!

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:40 pm

On Clegg and Hallam. I still reckon it's a long, long shot.

BUT

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:41 pm

I know that MPs aren't MPs any longer but does anyone know what happens to Ministers? Are they still in their post or do they relinquish that today too?

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:52 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:I know that MPs aren't MPs any longer but does anyone know what happens to Ministers? Are they still in their post or do they relinquish that today too?

They remain ministers - in that they are nominally in charge of their departments in case there is some sort of emergency.
Eg. if there were riots or something, we still have to have a Home Secretary to be in charge.

Off topic......

I saw a comment somewhere which pointed out that Farridge is younger than Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp.

Are some people born middle-aged?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:53 pm

Already answered upthread, by me amongst others

They continue to be ministers until a new government in formed. Which meant last time they got a few more days pay, which was doubtless nice

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:54 pm

Well I have to say that Coalition was rather well done although, as was maintained at the beginning, there may have been some artistic license with the dialogue. However it has left me feeling rather like a spurned lover. Nonetheless I have personally written to Clegg before, passage of the Health and Social Care Act 2012 and clearly expressed my thoughts as well as since concerning his legacy. Yes you may consider me one who thought it a great mistake. Nevertheless I had been oblivious to the rise of the Orange-Bookers and am now more determined than ever that the Tories shall not retain power.

Now back to making the tea.

Edit: inserted missing word and deleted a duplicate. - and a correction I wrote before passage.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:54 pm

"It's the economy, stupid".

Two articles that deftly explain why the all important 'feelgood factor' the Tories were banking on to propel them into a poll lead in time for the election is proving stubbornly elusive:

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/fac ... orne/20587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 42441.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:55 pm

Baldrick! I think he's on the NEC or some such. That bloke out of the Royle Family.

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:56 pm

Spacedone wrote:
ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.
That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

Good idea:

: UkipHobbiton.png (72.73 KiB) Viewed 8725 times

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:58 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Already answered upthread, by me amongst others

They continue to be ministers until a new government in formed. Which meant last time they got a few more days pay, which was doubtless nice

Oops. Sorry...

It's just that a school I know has just gone into special measures and I wondered about the chances of them being academized. I know that the deadline for elective conversion has passed but wondered whether it applied to forced conversion too.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 6:59 pm

We are writing to express our disappointment and dismay at the failure of the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats to represent themselves at LDA England’s Citizen Jury event on 2nd April.

http://learningdisabilityalliance.org/n ... they-care/

Time and time again the Cons show they have no excuses, no answers.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:11 pm

PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
I was looking for that but couldn't find it. So out of interest - what question did you ask the Mighty Google, please?
gordon brown dissolve parliament
Thank you. Easy when you know how! I think I was too verbose. Most uncharacteristic . . . .

You probably used some kind of highbrow punctuation that confused it

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:13 pm

yahyah wrote: But that's no ordinary Scottish voice OhSo, that's David Tennant, a much loved Dr Who.
It may attract a few more votes for Labour from younger voters.

Or perhaps from older voters who were fortunate enough to see him in Hamlet and Loves Labours Lost at the RSC. (If, indeed, celebrities have any effect on voting intentions).

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:13 pm

Willow904 wrote:
Spacedone wrote:
A Scottish voice calling for people to vote Labour. Half the outrage will be from 45ers.

I always knew there was a reason I liked Martin Freeman and David Tennant.
Good acting requires empathy and people on the left have been shown to be more empathic than those on the right, so it seems only natural that the best actors would be socialists and Arnold Schwarzenegger, for example, would be a republican.

Come to think of it (given the recent signature) has anyone seen Arnie and Anatoly in the same room at the same time ...

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:15 pm

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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:17 pm

Osborne being allowed to get away without being reminded he supported Labour spending plans.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:17 pm

frightful_oik wrote:Baldrick! I think he's on the NEC or some such. That bloke out of the Royle Family.

Yes, both Tony Robinson and Ricky Tomlinson are both Labour supporters, as is (as per Ernst's question above) Julie Desmondhalgh. Brian Cox left the party earlier this year, having contracted a severe bout of nationalism last year. Alan Rickman is very much a supporter, he reckons he was born a card carrying member; his partner of 38 years, Rina Horton, was a Labour Party councillor in Kensington and Chelsea for 20 years.

You know, that ain't a bad list; certainly better than the support the Tories can muster, the likes of Gary Barlow, Sol Campbell, Jim Davidson and Simon Cowell!!

http://www.whatispolitics.co.uk/feature ... upporters/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:22 pm

Watching Osborne on C4 News.

1. Refused to admit that the £3,000 taxes was simply dishonest
2. Said that in 2010 we were on the brink of a catastrophe and bankruptcy
3. Refused to admit that there has to be a leadership contest before the next election
4. Used the "debt is falling as share of national income" line which is untrue.

And this is the bleedin' Chancellor!

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:25 pm

Perhaps Empty Dave could tweet.

Result - first PM in history to slag off election opponent in front of No 10. Keeping it classy.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:28 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Watching Osborne on C4 News.

1. Refused to admit that the £3,000 taxes was simply dishonest
2. Said that in 2010 we were on the brink of a catastrophe and bankruptcy
3. Refused to admit that there has to be a leadership contest before the next election
4. Used the "debt is falling as share of national income" line which is untrue.

And this is the bleedin' Chancellor!

Fucker never could add up. Not sure all the CMP really helps much either.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:31 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:Baldrick! I think he's on the NEC or some such. That bloke out of the Royle Family.
Yes, both Tony Robinson and Ricky Tomlinson are both Labour supporters, as is (as per Ernst's question above) Julie Desmondhalgh. Brian Cox left the party earlier this year, having contracted a severe bout of nationalism last year. Alan Rickman is very much a supporter, he reckons he was born a card carrying member; his partner of 38 years, Rina Horton, was a Labour Party councillor in Kensington and Chelsea for 20 years.

You know, that ain't a bad list; certainly better than the support the Tories can muster, the likes of Gary Barlow, Sol Campbell, Jim Davidson and Simon Cowell!!

http://www.whatispolitics.co.uk/feature ... upporters/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

MYELEEEEEEEEENEEEEE!!!!!!!!

"You may as well tax me on this glass of water!"

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:34 pm

refitman wrote:
Spacedone wrote:
ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.
That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"
Good idea:
UkipHobbiton.png

That is fantastic.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:40 pm

Sir Alex Ferguson is definitely a Labour member.

It is said that Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher & Stan Collymore are too.

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:40 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Perhaps Empty Dave could tweet.

Result - first PM in history to slag off election opponent in front of No 10. Keeping it classy.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:49 pm

Good Panorama about legal aid cuts.

It's on at 7.30. Opposite Coronation Street.

That stinks.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 7:56 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Watching Osborne on C4 News.

1. Refused to admit that the £3,000 taxes was simply dishonest
2. Said that in 2010 we were on the brink of a catastrophe and bankruptcy
3. Refused to admit that there has to be a leadership contest before the next election
4. Used the "debt is falling as share of national income" line which is untrue.

And this is the bleedin' Chancellor!

Very easy interview indeed. I thought that Kathy Newman was meant to be a good interviewer? Clearly in can't be arsed mode this evening.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:12 pm

This is more like it...

http://www.whatispolitics.co.uk/feature ... upporters/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:16 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Watching Osborne on C4 News.

1. Refused to admit that the £3,000 taxes was simply dishonest
2. Said that in 2010 we were on the brink of a catastrophe and bankruptcy
3. Refused to admit that there has to be a leadership contest before the next election
4. Used the "debt is falling as share of national income" line which is untrue.

And this is the bleedin' Chancellor!

And not reminded he supported Brown's spending plans. Nor that he wanted laxer bank regulation.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:21 pm

refitman wrote:Good idea:
UkipHobbiton.png

Love it!

I'm going to have to think up some new material now. Here's one:

Today UKIP MEP Lobelia Sackville-Baggins angrily denied stealing silver spoons from Bag-End for party gain. "They were part of my allowance"

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:31 pm

Spacedone wrote:
refitman wrote:Good idea:
UkipHobbiton.png
Love it!

I'm going to have to think up some new material now. Here's one:

Today UKIP MEP Lobelia Sackville-Baggins angrily denied stealing silver spoons from Bag-End for party gain. "They were part of my allowance"

Keep 'em coming (and anyone else)!

Need to be a max of 140 characters.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:33 pm

yahyah wrote:

Even Clegg seems embarrassed to use party colours and admit he's a Lib Dem.

That Clegg leaflet has made my blood boil. How dare he claim to be protecting spending on nurseries? When nurseries within his own constituency were having their funding cut by the Lib-Dem controlled council (and they were one of the first things targeted by that council despite public statements claiming otherwise) and the managers of those nurseries wrote to him pleading for support, to come and see what was about to be lost, he couldn't even be bothered to reply nevermind visit the nurseries he was invited to visit. A lot of good people lost their jobs and a lot of families lost a valued means of support and community without a word from their supposed representative in Parliament.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:37 pm

goodnight, everyone
xx
cJA

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:45 pm

Refitman, might be worth adding the words "This is a parody account" to the header. The people of Trumpton could probably tell you how twitchy the lawyers are.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:48 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:50 pm

Spacedone wrote:Refitman, might be worth adding the words "This is a parody account" to the header. The people of Trumpton could probably tell you how twitchy the lawyers are.

Bloody good idea.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:50 pm

Natalie Rowe ‏@RealNatalieRowe 1 hr1 hour ago

Can George Osborne explain when I met him and delivered 2 grams of Cocaine for his use in Notting Hill, his Fiancee was there did she KNOW!

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:50 pm

@cJA & PF - goodnight.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:51 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 8:58 pm

refitman wrote:
Spacedone wrote:
refitman wrote:Good idea:
UkipHobbiton.png
Love it!

I'm going to have to think up some new material now. Here's one:

Today UKIP MEP Lobelia Sackville-Baggins angrily denied stealing silver spoons from Bag-End for party gain. "They were part of my allowance"
Keep 'em coming (and anyone else)!

Need to be a max of 140 characters.

How about:

Got the better of that bounder Miliband today. Told him he smelt. Ha!

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:03 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/liv ... endum-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Boris Johnson has been speaking about the “moral purpose” of capitalism at the Legatum Institute, saying it helps increase life expectancy and therefore people will live longer under the Tories.

He also took the opportunity to attack Labour for wanting to take the country back to the “grim” 1970s which was a time of racism and trade-union dominated politics,

Another seethe.

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:05 pm

Esther McVey, keeping it classy:

maple5 Peter Thompson
8h ago
3 4

That is totally unbelievable and an outrage! Thanks for posting that.

Kaliya Franklin aka @BendyGirl was one of the first and most well known disability campaigners to come out and start fighting the Tory cuts in 2010 and has continued to do so ever since.
She is fiercely intelligent, very witty and a constant thorn in their sides, despite severe and painful disability.
She has even written for this very publication and her blog was shortlisted for the Orwell Prize .

Esther McVey is her MP and one of her dearest wishes is to see Fester McVile lose her seat. She has met her as part of her campaigning as she has met with many politicians. For Esther to use her as a photo op to pretend they love the disabled is frankly sickening and just shows the depths to which the Tories will sink to win.

Glad to hear that she is contacting the party to make it clear she did not give permission for the photo to be used as campaign material.

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TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:06 pm

Bloody hell, you couldn't make it up.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... h-machines

So the machine will spot the obvious clues if our offender has slipped back into bad ways.

This actually is endangering the public.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:22 pm

A bit of self promotion going on here, but even so powerful stuff from.....

Danczuk.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 44444.html

Post by **refitman** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:33 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
refitman wrote:
Spacedone wrote: Love it!

I'm going to have to think up some new material now. Here's one:

Today UKIP MEP Lobelia Sackville-Baggins angrily denied stealing silver spoons from Bag-End for party gain. "They were part of my allowance"
Keep 'em coming (and anyone else)!

Need to be a max of 140 characters.
How about:

Got the better of that bounder Miliband today. Told him he smelt. Ha!

Was confused by that for a bit, until I realised it was intended for EmptyDave, not Ukip Hobbiton

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 9:36 pm

refitman wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
refitman wrote: Keep 'em coming (and anyone else)!

Need to be a max of 140 characters.
How about:

Got the better of that bounder Miliband today. Told him he smelt. Ha!
Was confused by that for a bit, until I realised it was intended for EmptyDave, not Ukip Hobbiton

Apologies. An indication of my social media skills. (Up there with technology).

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 10:26 pm

Ian ‏@Mancman10 18 mins18 minutes ago Manchester, England
New YouGov/ITV Wales poll:
LAB 40 (+4)
CON 25(-1)
UKIP 14 (+11)
PC 11 (-)
LD 5 (-15)
GRN 5 (+4)
Changes from 2010

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 10:31 pm

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 8 mins8 minutes ago
LAB back to level pegging with YouGov

CON 35
LAB 35
LD 8
UKIP 12
GRN 5

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 4 mins4 minutes ago
@MSmithsonPB
Last GE, YouGov slightly altered their methodology for *official* campaign period to the net benefit of the Tories. Same again?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 10:39 pm

Ian ‏@Mancman10 16 mins16 minutes ago Manchester, England
Tonight's YouGov/Sun poll:

LAB 35% (~1)
CON 35% (+3)
UKIP 12% (~1)
LDEM 8% (=)
GRN 5% (~1)
#GE2015

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Mon 30 Mar, 2015 10:52 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Ian ‏@Mancman10 16 mins16 minutes ago Manchester, England
Tonight's YouGov/Sun poll:

LAB 35% (~1)
CON 35% (+3)
UKIP 12% (~1)
LDEM 8% (=)
GRN 5% (~1)
#GE2015

I find it crazy. THe Tories have been massively destructive and still they manage to poll reasonably well. I'd love to see a region by region breakdown, a la the Welsh poll.