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yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:31 pm

Have just seen the Cam snogs lamb pic. Poor little mite.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:33 pm

Someone on Cif says:

''anyone who grew up on a farm and bottle-fed orphaned lambs will know you don't use a 1 1/2 litre bottle to do it - the lamb would choke. I think the RSPCA should be called in.''

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:38 pm

yahyah wrote:Have just seen the Cam snogs lamb pic. Poor little mite.

I Tweeted him: Said: you'll be eating it in a few months time Dave.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:44 pm

Flagship Universal Credit in 'disarray' study finds

A study has found that Universal Credit, one of the Government's flagship policies, is in "disarray", suffering from a lack of staff, poor training and inadequate IT.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-03-0 ... udy-finds/

Finally it's getting some decent publicity....

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:46 pm

yahyah wrote:Someone on Cif says:

''anyone who grew up on a farm and bottle-fed orphaned lambs will know you don't use a 1 1/2 litre bottle to do it - the lamb would choke. I think the RSPCA should be called in.''

They won't do anything. They reckon they can't afford to prosecute fox hunters.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:51 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:Someone on Cif says:

''anyone who grew up on a farm and bottle-fed orphaned lambs will know you don't use a 1 1/2 litre bottle to do it - the lamb would choke. I think the RSPCA should be called in.''
They won't do anything. They reckon they can't afford to prosecute fox hunters.

Quite. I'm not a fan of the RSPCA. Try ringing them up and see what sort of a response you get when you ask them to take action on anything. They're a sanctimonious talking shop with a uniform.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 4:53 pm

Plaid Cymru candidate, I don't reckon they are brimming with talent.

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.thomas.5836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:02 pm

PorFavor wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:Someone on Cif says:

''anyone who grew up on a farm and bottle-fed orphaned lambs will know you don't use a 1 1/2 litre bottle to do it - the lamb would choke. I think the RSPCA should be called in.''
They won't do anything. They reckon they can't afford to prosecute fox hunters.
Quite. I'm not a fan of the RSPCA. Try ringing them up and see what sort of a response you get when you ask them to take action on anything. They're a sanctimonious talking shop with a uniform.

Double quite.
I've probably bored you before with my sorry tale of how the RSPCA refused to help with an aggressive feral cat.
I ended up in hospital on an antibiotic drip with infection tracking up my arm after it shredded my hand and arm, and that was after we'd asked them numerous times for help.
The cat needed treatment for a huge abscess and other health problems, which we discovered after a neighbour managed to catch it. Which is what I had told the RSPCA was likely, but they still gave us the bum's rush.

That's why I never donate to the RSPCA but donate and sponsor cats at the Cat Protection League.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:04 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Plaid Cymru candidate, I don't reckon they are brimming with talent.

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.thomas.5836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not if Leanne's anything to go by.
She'll never be in want of a shag though, judging by all those new admirers she's picked up.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:07 pm

Cameron, speaking in his constituency, Witney, in Oxfordshire – where he was pictured cuddling a lamb – said it cutting the top rate of tax was not “our policy, it’s not our plan”, but declined to rule it out.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... income-tax" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"where he was out canvassing with his ...." - would seem reasonable
"where he was pictured with his wife Samantha" - at a pinch
"where he was pictured cuddling a lamb" - that has got to be taking the proverbial.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:12 pm

Paul Streeting retweeted
Helen Sims ‏@Nelsims411 3 mins3 minutes ago
Dear Mr Cameron...

Read:http://tl.gd/n_1sljhfo

Ouch.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:13 pm

yahyah wrote:
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Plaid Cymru candidate, I don't reckon they are brimming with talent.

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.thomas.5836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not if Leanne's anything to go by.
She'll never be in want of a shag though, judging by all those new admirers she's picked up.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:18 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Paul Streeting retweeted
Helen Sims ‏@Nelsims411 3 mins3 minutes ago
Dear Mr Cameron...

Read:http://tl.gd/n_1sljhfo

Ouch.

I thought he got off rather lightly . . . .

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:18 pm

Specially for @ YahYah

John BH ‏@PutneyDebates 24 secs25 seconds ago

Pleasure to listen to interview with @LeanneWood on #tw2 . Good sequel to her #leadersdebate performance.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:34 pm

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:42 pm

Clive Peedell ‏@cpeedell 6h6 hours ago
Format for Cameron's only local hustings appearance in Witney:
1. 20 tickets to 20 local church ministers (400)
2. Written only questions

Prime Ministerial.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:48 pm

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 5 hrs5 hours ago
The difference rounding makes
Today's YouGov has CON 1% ahead of LAB. In terms of actual numbers gap just 3 voters

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 5:51 pm

David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 6h6 hours ago
There has been such huge interest in Ed Miliband's notes that we've posted the lot online for you. http://www.sunnation.co.uk/those-ed-mil ... -164915812" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
View summary 3 retweets 2 favorites

Huge interest.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:06 pm

''Law changed so nuclear waste dumps can be forced on local communities
Legislation rushed through in the final hours of parliament allows local planning laws to be bypassed, seriously alarming anti-nuclear campaigners''

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... ommunities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:13 pm

Night all.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:24 pm

yahyah wrote:Night all.

Goodnight.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:26 pm

Goodnight, Yahyah

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:35 pm

Sian Jasper ‏@SianJasper 4 mins4 minutes ago
Yougov

voters aged 18-24
Women(Men)

LAB 40%(29%)
GREEN 23%(18%)
CON 18%(27%)
UKIP 7%(12%)
LD 7%(8%)
SIAN:only surprised at high UKIP support

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:37 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Sian Jasper ‏@SianJasper 4 mins4 minutes ago
Yougov

voters aged 18-24
Women(Men)

LAB 40%(29%)
GREEN 23%(18%)
CON 18%(27%)
UKIP 7%(12%)
LD 7%(8%)
SIAN:only surprised at high UKIP support

What is it with these men! (Excusing our own FTNers naturally)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:39 pm

Y chromosomes. they have a lot to answer for.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:44 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Y chromosomes. they have a lot to answer for.

And, of course, Y-fronts. Surprised no-one's done a survey . . .

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:45 pm

Before we all get too carried away here, it it generally true that women were more pro-Tory than men until relatively recently (1990s?)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:48 pm

PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Y chromosomes. they have a lot to answer for.
And, of course, Y-fronts. Surprised no-one's done a survey . . .

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:52 pm

pairs of X chromosomes. also have a lot to answer for

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 6:56 pm

On that YouGov poll.

Unless it was a specific poll of 18-24 year olds with a sample size of at least 1000, ignore it. If it is an extract from a standard YouGov poll definitely ignore it. As I keep saying you can't analyse the cross breaks in opinion polls.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:06 pm

PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Y chromosomes. they have a lot to answer for.
And, of course, Y-fronts. Surprised no-one's done a survey . . .

Amen to that.
I dreamt I was in a row boat with Dave the other night. (Don't ask I can't remember) He was in blue and white striped boxers... He can't even get that right.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:08 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:On that YouGov poll.

Unless it was a specific poll of 18-24 year olds with a sample size of at least 1000, ignore it. If it is an extract from a standard YouGov poll definitely ignore it. As I keep saying you can't analyse the cross breaks in opinion polls.

I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

Yougov
2550 voters aged 18-24
Fieldwork: 1st - 28th March

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:10 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:12 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

Does that tend to happen to you a lot?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:14 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

Does that tend to happen to you a lot?

Not as often as she'd like, if I'm reading the situation aright.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:15 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:On that YouGov poll.

Unless it was a specific poll of 18-24 year olds with a sample size of at least 1000, ignore it. If it is an extract from a standard YouGov poll definitely ignore it. As I keep saying you can't analyse the cross breaks in opinion polls.
I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

Yougov
2550 voters aged 18-24
Fieldwork: 1st - 28th March

Aha, so it is real, but rather out of date. Which leads me to suspect it is a cobbled together aggregation of other polls.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:18 pm

I see Toady's doing his usual "let's only tell half the story" with his 'Balls wants to close down free schools' nonsense

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Toby Young ‏@toadmeister 15m15 minutes ago
@bitginger @DavidWooding @edballsmp Yes, he said it in his response to the budget. He said: “We are going to get rid of free schools."

Well, actually...

We will have sensible spending cuts in non-protected areas. We will cut winter fuel payments for the richest 5% of pensioners. We will cap child benefit at 1% for two years. The shadow Chief Secretary has been setting out in our zero-based review of every pound spent by Government cuts from rooting out waste and inefficiency in policing, in local government, in defence, and in schools. We are going to get rid of the police and crime commissioner elections. We are going to get rid of the free schools. We are going to stop the overpayment of housing benefit. We are going to deal with the issue of—[Interruption.] I meant new free schools. The shadow Chief Secretary has set out ways in which we can make those sensible cuts in non-protected areas.

We will also make fairer choices. We will reverse—[Interruption.] If the Chancellor wants to intervene, I will happily give way.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr George Osborne): No, carry on.

Ed Balls: I am sorry, but I thought the Chancellor was about to stand up and tell us whether he talked to Lord Green about tax avoidance. He knows very well that our policy is to not have any more new free schools, and our £230 million saving is based on that.

So not "closing down the existing ones" you utterly shameless liar.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:18 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
I was just going to post the numbers but got distracted by Y fronts...

Does that tend to happen to you a lot?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:18 pm

I was asking a little while back where to get a Labour window poster, having completely forgotten I'd told a Labour campaigner I'd put one up when Todd Foreman came round to introduce himself last summer. A very dedicated volunteer just hand-posted a letter & posters from Todd Foreman this afternoon, much to my surprise. My husband has already put them up and they look good, too, very simple and eye-catching. None of my Libdem neighbours have their posters up yet, though. Can't imagine why!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:30 pm

And another one for @YahYah

Val Foster retweeted
Rosemary Emery ‏@RosemaryEmery 34 mins34 minutes ago
#Llanelli Words of voter yesterday. 'I was going to vote Plaid until the Leaders Debate, Now going to vote #Labour as she is a plonker

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:35 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:37 pm

http://labourlist.org/2015/04/the-snp-i ... ng-street/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:38 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:38 pm

ohsocynical wrote:And another one for @YagYah

Val Foster retweeted
Rosemary Emery ‏@RosemaryEmery 34 mins34 minutes ago
#Llanelli Words of voter yesterday. 'I was going to vote Plaid until the Leaders Debate, Now going to vote #Labour as she is a plonker

Ouch! That's harsh. I'd prefer they voted Labour because they have better policies, but I suppose at least it means they didn't think Ed was a plonker. Crosby will be worried, I think.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 7:49 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
Flagship Universal Credit in 'disarray' study finds

A study has found that Universal Credit, one of the Government's flagship policies, is in "disarray", suffering from a lack of staff, poor training and inadequate IT.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-03-0 ... udy-finds/
Finally it's getting some decent publicity....

I may be wrong but I have the feeling that more of this government's failures are being aired on the telly other than Channel 4 News and the odd Dispatches programme. Yeah on the Beeb too. Despite this NickyB still keeps advising us of polls with a WMA, whatever that is, showing that Labour shall lose their lead, indeed hoping for a Tory victory. I cannot say that I am without concern as there does seem many more vote Tory than will admit to it, certainly around these parts. Would you agree, frightful_oik?

Regarding Joey Essex as some of you have mentioned. I perhaps overstated my feelings for his ignorance the other day but did remark that it may be a persona that he capitalises on. I still think him ignorant though, albeit he appears a likeable chap. Anyway not wishing to mock him I agree that should he encourage the youth to vote then he shall have achieved no mean feat.

As for Russel Brand, my eldest bought me Revolution for Christmas because he reckoned he sounds like me on his Trews podcasts. Not voice or turn of phrase you understand. Nevertheless although I like his humour, mockery and some of what he says I cannot abide his nonchalance regarding casting your vote and told my son so. Having begun to read the book, something that would ordinarily take a few hours I had to give up after the first two chapters. I found it all rather self-centric. Look who's talking!

I may pick it up again some time to see what he does say; surely he moves on.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 8:03 pm

PorFavor wrote:... Quite. I'm not a fan of the RSPCA. Try ringing them up and see what sort of a response you get when you ask them to take action on anything. They're a sanctimonious talking shop with a uniform.

I've found them alright, PorFavor. Perhaps they vary from area to area. I got our two dogs from them, passed on now with the passing of years. They do appear to do good work concerning cruelty to animals by undeserving owners or accomodating animals when their owners become too frail or worse to look after them. I don't like the way that some creatures are put down when they cannot be accommodated, but then they have neither the facilities or the funds to be a sanctuary.

While I'm on such topic, we used to give monthly donations to WWF. My wife kept telling me that she got too upset reading their newsletters. I kept telling her not to read them then.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 8:19 pm

I don't like the way that some creatures are put down when they cannot be accommodated, but then they have neither the facilities or the funds to be a sanctuary.

I find them very cynical. The advertise on the TV, that they'll look after your pet. They don't say anything about if it's old or if not suitable putting it down. And with the pet owner 'dying', the inference is to leave them something in your will.

My dad started getting distressing literature from animal charities. He was on a low fixed income and I discovered he was signing up for those 'small' monthly payments because it was so upsetting. I made him cut down to a couple and tear up any more of their mail that came.

I'm as daft as the next person over animals but a big chunk goes on publicity and directors wages, and I'm not prepared to pay for that.

My brother in law was a site agent and years ago was responsible for the new Guide dog for the blind headquarters.
He watched them order exotic trees from abroad for the grounds and hire a top chef for their canteen. He reckoned no expense was spared.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 8:20 pm

Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has said the leaking of a memo which claimed Nicola Sturgoen would prefer David Cameron to be prime minister was "just one of those things".

Mr Carmichael confirmed the memo was written in the Scottish Office but denied it was embarrassing for him.

He said: "This is the middle of an election campaign, these things happen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32188345" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah. I'm sure he'd feel exactly the same if someone leaked a private memo about Clegg. Not!

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 8:31 pm

Rowson's latest

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/com ... toon#img-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 8:33 pm

Willow904 wrote:
Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has said the leaking of a memo which claimed Nicola Sturgoen would prefer David Cameron to be prime minister was "just one of those things".

Mr Carmichael confirmed the memo was written in the Scottish Office but denied it was embarrassing for him.

He said: "This is the middle of an election campaign, these things happen."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32188345" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah. I'm sure he'd feel exactly the same if someone leaked a private memo about Clegg. Not!

So McBride's suspicion about it coming from the LibDems looks as though it may have been right. Motive and opportunity - the basis of all crime...