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RobertSnozers wrote:
WelshIan wrote: The seat spread from the bookies is
Take the latest odds, which come following the seven-way leadership debate. The ‘spread’ on seats has hardened to 284-88 (Tory) and softened to 269-73 (Labour). The SNP are marginally better (41-43), Ukip are unchanged (5-7), but the LibDems have weakened notably (23-25).
His 'analysis' seems to be what he wants to happen, there is no explanation for how he gets to his figures from the bookies figures. It's complete and utter bollocks.
That's a good point. Most of the comments BTL have focussed on the ludicrous Scottish prediction, but I don't see how he goes from a spread of 284-88 to 302 for the Tories and 269-73 to 248 for Labour. Perhaps he's expecting a NickyB style 'crossover'. Aaaany day now.

Moreover, I thought the betting had moved Labour's way recently? At least on the PM question.
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Five years ago, betting significantly overstated the number of Tory seats (it had them on the cusp of a majority) and had Labour too low.
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RobertSnozers wrote:
pk1 wrote:
RobertSnozers wrote: And here's the BBC report on that story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32346214" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She & Osborne could of course, tell the truth; that the reason the economy has recovered to this extent is because Osborne had to pull back from his plan & adopt Alistair Darling's plan.
Well, it's partly that, but she wholeheartedly supported Osborne even when Plan A was underway. And there are still big questions in my mind about the performance of the economy. It's even more reliant on services than it was in 2010, the labour market has been casualised, we've lurched from too much inflation to deflation, private indebtedness has increased, and growth has only really picked up to the sort of levels you'd expect in the last couple of quarters. The economy as it stands simply doesn't warrant Lagarde's effusiveness - and neither do the IMF's own figures.
Didn't Osborne support her candidacy for the job?
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Best odds, if seriously considering a bet, are now evens

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I took 5/4 last week, but plan no further investment.

The odds market has barely flickered since the campaign began. The big shifts came last autumn with the SNP surge.
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The Sun. making it up as usual.
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Lagarde is sucking up to Osborne in his hour of need because he nominated her for the job she now holds.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn had to resign, and she was next in line.
At the time, Oxfam described the appointment process as "farcical".

Cameron and Osborne will be calling in favours now - they are in trouble and they know it.
Cameron has been lying blatantly about the debates, and people are laughing at him.
Osborne cannot hide his arrogance, and refusing to explain where the cuts are going to be.

I think Cameron will try to convince us he has the support of the likes of Obama and bolster his image as an international statesman.
I think things will get really nasty now - the debate strategy has failed, so they'll be snarling and spitting like cornered animals.
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"Flexible contracts" should be the new name for "zero hours contracts" says Iain Smith, breaking cover on the BBC.
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SpinningHugo wrote:Best odds, if seriously considering a bet, are now evens

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I took 5/4 last week, but plan no further investment.

The odds market has barely flickered since the campaign began. The big shifts came last autumn with the SNP surge.
I've been toying with the idea of a bet on a Labour majority, you can get 25-1 out to 33-1 with quite a few of the betting sites. Could be worth a punt?
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Graun wrote:Miliband says he will not be the kind of leader, like David Cameron, who puts a wind turbine on his roof before an election, and then brings in a moratorium on wind turbines afterwards.
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Danny Blanchflower ‏@D_Blanchflower 1 hr1 hour ago New Hampshire, USA

AWE wage growth fallen again from 1.3% to 1.2%
privsec pay down from 1.8% to 1.5% vs MPC's forecast of 3.5% for 2015 - wage growth slowing!
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Populus VI: Lab 34 (+1), Con 33 (-), LD 9 (+1), UKIP 14 (-1), Greens 4 (-1), Others 5 (-1).
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Five years ago, betting significantly overstated the number of Tory seats (it had them on the cusp of a majority) and had Labour too low.
Betting odds are based, at least partially, on sentiment; if a lot of Tories and Kippers blindly bung their money on a win for their team, totally ignoring the reality of the situation, it will shorten the odds. Anybody, like that numpty at Moneyweek, who bases a seat projection on them is a suitable case for treatment and should change their name to Morgan.
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There is also the fact that lots of rich people with money to burn on this sort of stuff are also committed Tories ;)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:There is also the fact that lots of rich people with money to burn on this sort of stuff are also committed Tories ;)
Indeed. What's £50k for example to most of them? Odds shorten, headlines generated.
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Can add Alan Rickman to the list of Labour-supporting celebrities. This is from Peter Kyle's campaign in Hove:
Visit from Alan Rickman

I've known Alan Rickman for a long time and he's coming to Hove on Saturday to thank the people who are making this campaign so special. He also wants to buy a drink for our hard-working volunteers! For those of who have been out canvassing during the day, and would like to join the star of films like Die Hard, Harry Potter and Truly, Madly, Deeply, Alan will be around to offer you a drink and hear your stories from the doorstep when you return in the evening.
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WelshIan wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Best odds, if seriously considering a bet, are now evens

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I took 5/4 last week, but plan no further investment.

The odds market has barely flickered since the campaign began. The big shifts came last autumn with the SNP surge.
I've been toying with the idea of a bet on a Labour majority, you can get 25-1 out to 33-1 with quite a few of the betting sites. Could be worth a punt?
You can get 47/1 on betfair

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-majority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't going to happen, dont throw your money away.

Ed to be PM a much safer bet.
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Jim Murphy in Graun wrote:Standing up for Scotland means standing up for working class Scots. It also means making common cause with working class people across the UK. We believe in that old trade union idea that an injury to one is an injury to all.
When I raised the notion of a common cause (of socialism) btl pre-referendum the Scots just basically said "tough, you live in a country with a strong minority of Tories who own the press so you're on your own".

This is what the Tories are so afraid of. The Brits ever standing together to against the elite. And it's what the SNP are seemingly determined to help them (Tories) avoid.
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Spot the Difference! Before, "Simon Hughes & the Liberal Democrats". After, just Simon Hughes.
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PorFavor wrote:"Flexible contracts" should be the new name for "zero hours contracts" says Iain Smith, breaking cover on the BBC.
Be fair to the man, PorFavor, he is trying, but I want to know if FcJobs are a step up from McJobs.

Edit: still don't proof read; missing word.
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Chuka Umunna doing a very good job of utterly trouncing IDS and his 'flexible' contracts denial speak. Good on him - Chuka that is.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Joe Murphy ‏@JoeMurphyLondon 2h2 hours ago
Spot the Difference! Before, "Simon Hughes & the Liberal Democrats". After, just Simon Hughes.
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Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk · 1h 1 hour ago
A quick look at the Tory Thesaurus

Poll Tax = Community Charge
Bedroom Tax = Spare Room Subsidy
Zero hours contracts = flexible contracts
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk · 1h 1 hour ago
A quick look at the Tory Thesaurus

Poll Tax = Community Charge
Bedroom Tax = Spare Room Subsidy
Zero hours contracts = flexible contracts
Add to that list -

IDS on TV = Shit or Bust
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Jim Murphy in Graun wrote:Standing up for Scotland means standing up for working class Scots. It also means making common cause with working class people across the UK. We believe in that old trade union idea that an injury to one is an injury to all.
When I raised the notion of a common cause (of socialism) btl pre-referendum the Scots just basically said "tough, you live in a country with a strong minority of Tories who own the press so you're on your own".

This is what the Tories are so afraid of. The Brits ever standing together to against the elite. And it's what the SNP are seemingly determined to help them (Tories) avoid.
Great to hear that from Murphy.

I admit my OCD obsessional thinking is high at the moment re: the SNP but I think they have have
used a right wing trick to gain an advantage.

Like UKIP demonise immigrants, the SNP have demonised English voters, and their own Scottish Labour ones as Tories/Red Tories.


&, in comparing Nats with UKIP, I will share something I heard from a trustworthy source who knows people involved with the Cardiff political scene.
Some Plaid people there argued against a social housing scheme because they didn't want to house 'English benefit claimants'. Charming.
If Farage said that about 'immigrant benefit claimants' Wood would be all over him like a rash.
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Must say I am surprised at the gloomy tone of some on here this morning......

The consensus before last night was that Ed was stupid to take part in this latest debate, and that he would be ganged up on and made to look weak and feeble.

Fair to say it didn't happen :)

As for the bias in much of the MSM, what's new? They are becoming ever more flailing and desperate as they see their old power draining away.
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Thanks Anatoly, always the voice of reason and calm.
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Alastair Sloan ‏@alastairsloan 5m5 minutes ago
Before Telegraph reported Axelrod was a "non-dom" - they called a tax expert who said it was a non-story..... http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015 ... ch+UK+2%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
Another excellent blog piece.
I am all in favour of debate on tax and tax abuse but this is ridiculous.

I can also say that the Telegraph knows this because one of the two journalists who wrote this story called me yesterday. I said three things.

The first was that David Axelrod was, as far as I know, US resident so paid tax there on his worldwide income. And if, as was likely, he used a US corporation many of these are what are called ‘tax transparent’ so do not save the individual tax, unlike here.

Second, as far as I knew he did not spend much time here and so was unlikely to be UK resident.

And third, therefore, tax could not be due in the UK. I explained that his services were imported into the UK and imported services do not make the supplier tax resident in the country to which they supply their expertise.

I explained this using a personal example: I have supplied services paid for by the EU on a number of occasions but that has never once made me Belgian resident and it would be absurd to suggest it did, or that I should pay tax in Belgium as a result.

This though was ignored by the Telegraph and the demand has been made that a supply of services should make people taxable in the state to which they supply them.
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Christine Lagarde's current term of office expires next year.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Must say I am surprised at the gloomy tone of some on here this morning......

The consensus before last night was that Ed was stupid to take part in this latest debate, and that he would be ganged up on and made to look weak and feeble.

Fair to say it didn't happen :)

As for the bias in much of the MSM, what's new? They are becoming ever more flailing and desperate as they see their old power draining away.

I'm not feeling gloomy - the debate fiasco (Cameron getting others to do his clucking for him ... ) has strengthened my resolve. I think a lot of cracks are showing for the Tories now - and they're pretty deep ones. (No smutty undertones intended ... but I've thought them now anyway ...)
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I can't find much about this but the other thing worth saying about coalition arithmatic is that I think it's far from given that the DUP would line up with the Conservatives - that a quick view of them might come from a harshly sectarian 'NEVER!' past but actually - like a lot of their fellow NI parties right across all of the divides - they are more of an old working class party. They certainly have talked from time to time about the possibility of supporting a labour government.
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Hi All

Just popping in to ask a question.

Are any of you still waiting for your "Hell Yes" tee shirt?
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ChrisDean wrote:Hi All

Just popping in to ask a question.

Are any of you still waiting for your "Hell Yes" tee shirt?
Hell, yes. But I think it's still within the time-frame that was outlined.

Hello, there!
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PorFavor wrote:
ChrisDean wrote:Hi All

Just popping in to ask a question.

Are any of you still waiting for your "Hell Yes" tee shirt?
Hell, yes. But I think it's still within the time-frame that was outlined.

Hello, there!
me too
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
ChrisDean wrote:Hi All

Just popping in to ask a question.

Are any of you still waiting for your "Hell Yes" tee shirt?
Hell, yes. But I think it's still within the time-frame that was outlined.

Hello, there!
me too
And me.

I received the Trade Union one a few days ago.

:D

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adam wrote:I can't find much about this but the other thing worth saying about coalition arithmatic is that I think it's far from given that the DUP would line up with the Conservatives - that a quick view of them might come from a harshly sectarian 'NEVER!' past but actually - like a lot of their fellow NI parties right across all of the divides - they are more of an old working class party. They certainly have talked from time to time about the possibility of supporting a labour government.
I think this from the BBC may provide a clue to the DUP's thinking:
Mr Robinson also said it would be unwise for either Labour or the Conservatives to seek the support of Scottish or Welsh nationalists in the event of a hung parliament.

"We certainly don't believe that it will be sensible to allow a lever on government by those who are separatists and want to break up the United Kingdom," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32106289" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The DUP are unionists. I don't think they'll support the Tories if it involves FFA for Scotland and EVEL for England as this would have destabilising consequences for Northern Ireland as a member of the UK. The DUP have joined Labour to vote against the last government where their interests have merged so it is more than possible that Ed may be able to negotiate their support if necessary. I do think the way Cameron has recklessly endangered the union in his handling of the aftermath of the Scottish referendum won't have won him any friends among any of the NI unionist parties.
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Excellent article by Peter Oborne in the Speccie today, apparently reprinted from February, so apologies if its been posted before

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/943 ... succeeded/
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Many thanks for the responses re the tee shirt and many thanks to all of you who post here day in and day out thereby keeping me "up to speed".

Back to lurking again now.

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Final pre-GE review is up in the usual place. Good result for Labour, too :)
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Postman has just delivered the local LibDem's election leaflet.

It does mention the party name a few times - LibDems have done this and that, and will do this and that, bla, bla, bla...

However, there isn't a single mention of their party leader - not a one. :shock: I wonder who it could be?
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PorFavor wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk · 1h 1 hour ago
A quick look at the Tory Thesaurus

Poll Tax = Community Charge
Bedroom Tax = Spare Room Subsidy
Zero hours contracts = flexible contracts
Add to that list -

IDS on TV = Shit or Bust

DWP Newspeak -

Disability so severe you cannot move unaided - personal independence.

Illness so serious you are in intensive care - capability for work-related activity.

Detention under Section of the MHA - failure to comply with online CBT.

Hardship - access to a free good.

Sanction - support to find work.

Claimant - stock. (Plural - stockpile)

Death - failure to attend a work capability assessment.
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SpinningHugo wrote:
WelshIan wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Best odds, if seriously considering a bet, are now evens

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I took 5/4 last week, but plan no further investment.

The odds market has barely flickered since the campaign began. The big shifts came last autumn with the SNP surge.
I've been toying with the idea of a bet on a Labour majority, you can get 25-1 out to 33-1 with quite a few of the betting sites. Could be worth a punt?
You can get 47/1 on betfair

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-majority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't going to happen, dont throw your money away.

Ed to be PM a much safer bet.
I'm a bit more hopeful of the chance of a Labour majority!

I don't believe that Scotland will return almost all SNP MPs. I know what the polls say but I don't think it will translate into seats - my belief is that they will have 30 or so at the most, 5-10 Lib Dem and the rest Labour (20+).

The marginals are where it is at. Labour have a good ground campaign, Ed is appearing more Prime Ministerial as we go along and the Labour message is designed to appeal to people in these seats.

The Tories are having a bad campaign - there is nothing in their message to appeal beyond their core vote, their personal attacks on Ed are putting a lot of people off (they really should listen to Ken Clarke on that!). They have 3 more weeks and they seem to have no ideas.

The MSM is the Tories secret weapon - the only reason they are still in with a chance is because of the amount of support the Tories gain from them. The BBC especially, as non-political people still view it as being neutral or even left wing.

I am quite confident that Labour will be the biggest party, and that they have a better than 25-1 chance (or even 47-1) to form a majority.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:When I raised the notion of a common cause (of socialism) btl pre-referendum the Scots just basically said "tough, you live in a country with a strong minority of Tories who own the press so you're on your own".
Often from someone living in Devon, Surrey or (in one memorable Twitter exchange) Chicago.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Final pre-GE review is up in the usual place. Good result for Labour, too :)
I bravely fought the troll fest and found it :)
One local council byelection yesterday, the last before the GE - and pleasingly enough it just happens to be in my neck of the woods:

Cumbria CC - Labour hold, with a small increase in their share since 2013 and a modest swing to them from the Tories, who dropped to third behind UKIP (who also advanced on two years ago) This division is identical to the Barrow BC ward, which means those results can also be compared - and they show Labour winning here from 2002 to 2005 (though sometimes by narrow margins) until the Tories made their breakthrough in 2006, taking both vacancies in a "double" election and then winning the last Labour seat in 2007 before taking all three in the 2008 "all out" elections in Barrow (though the boundaries here were unchanged) and then the CC seat in 2009 with a substantial swing. Labour won a seat back in 2010, though, and then took all three in 2011 when Barrow switched to all-out elections every four years. Comparing with past CC elections, yesterday's result showed a swing of over 30% from Tory to Labour since 2009 and a double figure swing even since 2005 - so this year's electoral contests before May 7 end on a happy note for the reds.

Besides the GE and the regular local elections, in three weeks time there will be over 50 local by-elections - I may get round to reporting them if we aren't totally drowned out by other stuff, though I have a suspicion we might be......

Until then, happy campaigning :)
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Operation Elveden: Andy Coulson and eight other cases dropped by DPP

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Scottish trial only left?
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WelshIan wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
WelshIan wrote: I've been toying with the idea of a bet on a Labour majority, you can get 25-1 out to 33-1 with quite a few of the betting sites. Could be worth a punt?
You can get 47/1 on betfair

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-majority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't going to happen, dont throw your money away.

Ed to be PM a much safer bet.
I'm a bit more hopeful of the chance of a Labour majority!

I don't believe that Scotland will return almost all SNP MPs. I know what the polls say but I don't think it will translate into seats - my belief is that they will have 30 or so at the most, 5-10 Lib Dem and the rest Labour (20+).

The marginals are where it is at. Labour have a good ground campaign, Ed is appearing more Prime Ministerial as we go along and the Labour message is designed to appeal to people in these seats.

The Tories are having a bad campaign - there is nothing in their message to appeal beyond their core vote, their personal attacks on Ed are putting a lot of people off (they really should listen to Ken Clarke on that!). They have 3 more weeks and they seem to have no ideas.

The MSM is the Tories secret weapon - the only reason they are still in with a chance is because of the amount of support the Tories gain from them. The BBC especially, as non-political people still view it as being neutral or even left wing.

I am quite confident that Labour will be the biggest party, and that they have a better than 25-1 chance (or even 47-1) to form a majority.
Well, I hope, but I don't expect. The Ashcroft polling today is absolutely terrible in Scotland. If it were true, Labour would lose either all its Scottish seats, or all but one or two. The polling is getting worse, much worse, not better. It isn't the Tories who are beating Labour, their campaign has been spectacularly incompetent. It is the SNP.

It is 50/50 on biggest party even so.

Much much more likely is Ed as PM. He'll be that even if we aren't the biggest party. I can't see how, barring a shock, the Tories can stay in office.

That is where my optimism runs out. I don't think governing reliant upon SNP votes will be at all easy. There won't be any controversial legislation at all. (No bad thing in some ways. the world does not need any more Criminal Justice Acts or terrorism legislation from labour or anybody else.) The Tories will go on and on about how illegitimate it is for the rest of the UK to be governed by Scottish votes on matters that are devolved to Scotland. Unlike many, I agree with that (sorry).

The SNP have no interest in a successful government of the left of the United Kingdom.

I hate Nats.
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doubled.
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to the power x
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I remain a tad sceptical of the Scottish polling, but if the SNP *do* get a (near) clean sweep next month then I think a PM Miliband could do worse than give Scotland FFA and be done with it. Let's see how well Nat support holds up when they, finally, can't blame everybody but themselves for *everything* :twisted:

What are the odds, I wonder, on Labour winning a majority of English/Welsh seats whilst missing out on an OM due to Scotland? Might be worth a punt, tbh.
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What I'm finding especially problematic vis a vis Scotland is that:

a) they voted to keep the safety net of the UK yet are quite willing to see their fellow citizens suffer another Tory govt
b) they claim the moral high ground (progressive) when they MUST KNOW that they are seriously risking letting the Tories in
c) I have no doubt that they will blame the English for not voting Labour
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SpinningHugo wrote:
WelshIan wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Best odds, if seriously considering a bet, are now evens

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I took 5/4 last week, but plan no further investment.

The odds market has barely flickered since the campaign began. The big shifts came last autumn with the SNP surge.
I've been toying with the idea of a bet on a Labour majority, you can get 25-1 out to 33-1 with quite a few of the betting sites. Could be worth a punt?
You can get 47/1 on betfair

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... l-majority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't going to happen, dont throw your money away.

Ed to be PM a much safer bet.
Ed To Be PM - A Much Safer Bet.

With your permission, SpinningHugo, I'm stencilling the above onto t-shirts. It's brilliant.
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