Tuesday 21st April 2015

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 8:49 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Postal vote waiting here to be filled in. Haven't decided who to vote for yet.

I just closed my eyes and stuck a pin in mine.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 8:51 pm

PorFavor wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Postal vote waiting here to be filled in. Haven't decided who to vote for yet.

I just closed my eyes and stuck a pin in mine.

Did you skewer Mike Hancock?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 8:55 pm

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 8:56 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Postal vote waiting here to be filled in. Haven't decided who to vote for yet.

I just closed my eyes and stuck a pin in mine.
Did you skewer Mike Hancock?

You'd get a prick either way.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 8:56 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Postal vote waiting here to be filled in. Haven't decided who to vote for yet.

I just closed my eyes and stuck a pin in mine.
Did you skewer Mike Hancock?

Ha! I don't live in his constituency any more - I moved a couple of miles up the road and I'm now in the frozen north where Penny Mordaunt is the MP.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:01 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute

I'm saying nothing. But I've now got "I've Got Rythym" playing in my head.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:03 pm

NHS to 'extend rationing' of healthcare in bid to balance books
Survey of clinical commissioning group bosses reveals that smokers and obese people will be among those who could be denied surgery and other treatment

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:06 pm

POR FAVOR!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:08 pm

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 14m14 minutes ago
Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute.

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 12m12 minutes ago
So tonight's debate is cancelled because the Tories pulled out @BBCNewsnight - Running scared of their record on welfare?

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 12m12 minutes ago
Did the Tories refuse to go on @BBCNewsnight welfare debate to avoid questions about who'll be hit by their plan to cut £12bn from welfare?

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 4m4 minutes ago
Did the Tories refuse to go on @BBCNewsnight welfare debate to avoid questions about the 600% rise in ppl using food banks since 2010?

Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 54s54 seconds ago
Did Tories refuse to go on @BBCNewsnight welfare debate to avoid questions about their cruel and unfair Bedroom Tax?

That's a bit more like it Rachel.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:08 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute

Who was\were meant to be the Conservative participant\s - do you know? This should be shouted from the rooftops. All they want to talk about is Scotland - but their abject failure in all other areas should be highlighted. I wonder how Newsnight will present this development.

Edited to add \were

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:09 pm

Arif Ansari ‏@ArifBBC 3 hrs3 hours ago

Almost half a million people registered to vote yesterday. 2.3m registered online from mid-March.

So it looks as if we have a final figure for the registration drive.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:10 pm

PorFavor wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute
Who was meant to be the Conservative participant\s - do you know? This should be shouted from the rooftops. All they want to talk about is Scotland - but their abject failure in all other areas should be highlighted. I wonder how Newsnight will present this development.

Talk about Scotland of course, because they are Tory lap dogs.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:10 pm

If it's exciting the yougov is probably an outlier.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:10 pm

PorFavor wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute
Who was meant to be the Conservative participant\s - do you know? This should be shouted from the rooftops. All they want to talk about is Scotland - but their abject failure in all other areas should be highlighted. I wonder how Newsnight will present this development.

She doesn't say in her Tweets.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:12 pm

I keep wanting to swear.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:13 pm

frightful_oik wrote:If it's exciting the yougov is probably an outlier.

Absolutely right.
Funny how YouGov polls only tend to be 'exciting' (in the eyes of the Sun) if they show a Tory lead!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:14 pm

PorFavor wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute
Who was meant to be the Conservative participant\s - do you know? This should be shouted from the rooftops. All they want to talk about is Scotland - but their abject failure in all other areas should be highlighted. I wonder how Newsnight will present this development.

Yes, it's a frightening thought that they could win despite people not actually having been told exactly what they're doing.

"Just keep talking about Scotland and chaos" seems to be the message going out.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:15 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:I keep wanting to swear.

I don't expect anyone here will mind. Go ahead if it will make you feel better.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:20 pm

It's been a hard, long day, comrades.
I love you.
I'll read you all again soon.
cJA

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:22 pm

@ citizenJA

Goodnight!

fedup59 · Post by **fedup59** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

I've decided to ignore the polls completely until the last week on the basis that the polling companies will then start to think about reputational dangers of being too far off base.

Thanks for the caffeine deprivation advice. Luckily Mr fedup found a pound, bought a scratch card and won a tenner so I'll save the info for next month!

For some reason 'I've' turned into inverurie so I changed it. First time using tablet to post and predictive text combined with fat fingers is my excuse.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:28 pm

Philip Thomas 21st Apr '15 - 4:50pm
Ok, I was hoping there might be a useful swap you could make but unless there is a rare Green out there in one of our seats who is prepared to vote LD in return for you voting Green (as they are supposedly prepared to do for Labour supporters in safe seats), you’re out of look.

Good whatever ... I had no idea we had 'pairing' schemes operating in this election. Anyone heard about this?

from BTL on LDV btw. http://www.libdemvoice.org/sal-brinton- ... 45568.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:29 pm

Solomon Curtis @Solomon_Curtis
· 24s 24 seconds ago
Were you at the hustings tonight! I believe I can win in Wealden - are you with me?

Solomon Curtis
‏@Solomon_Curtis People cheering - beeping their horns - wanting change in Wealden #solomon4wealden

Sounds like he's having fun and is confident, don't know what majority he needs to overturn tho

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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:30 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Solomon Curtis @Solomon_Curtis
· 24s 24 seconds ago
Were you at the hustings tonight! I believe I can win in Wealden - are you with me?

Solomon Curtis
‏@Solomon_Curtis People cheering - beeping their horns - wanting change in Wealden #solomon4wealden

Sounds like he's having fun and is confident, don't know what majority he needs to overturn tho

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Maybe a tad over confident ?
He was re-elected to parliament at the 2001 general election for the East Sussex seat of Wealden following the retirement of the veteran Conservative MP Geoffrey Johnson Smith. Hendry won with a majority of 13,772 and has remained the MP there since.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:37 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Philip Thomas 21st Apr '15 - 4:50pm
Ok, I was hoping there might be a useful swap you could make but unless there is a rare Green out there in one of our seats who is prepared to vote LD in return for you voting Green (as they are supposedly prepared to do for Labour supporters in safe seats), you’re out of look.
Good whatever ... I had no idea we had 'pairing' schemes operating in this election. Anyone heard about this?

from BTL on LDV btw. http://www.libdemvoice.org/sal-brinton- ... 45568.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't think that's approved. A Tweet earlier said about tactical voting and the reply was instant dismissal from the party...I can't find the Tweet because I get literally thousands in a day.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:38 pm

Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:39 pm

Just to cheer everybody up.

Andrew Neil ‏@afneil 5m5 minutes ago
Spoke to major Tory donor tonight. "Tory campaign useless. Cameron's heart not in it. Not looking good".

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:41 pm

Andrew Neil ‏@afneil 7m7 minutes ago
Spoke to major Tory donor tonight. "Tory campaign useless. Cameron's heart not in it. Not looking good".

Angela Eagle retweeted
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 6m6 minutes ago
@afneil DC has wanted out for a while. He has just wanted to go out on some sort of high and hasn't been able to find that high.

Cripes.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:42 pm

Sorry rearofthestore. We seem to be in the same news space yet again ... not deliberately copying you, honest.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:43 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Sorry rearofthestore. We seem to be in the same news space yet again ... not deliberately copying you, honest.

I believe you. Honest I do.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:44 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Philip Thomas 21st Apr '15 - 4:50pm
Ok, I was hoping there might be a useful swap you could make but unless there is a rare Green out there in one of our seats who is prepared to vote LD in return for you voting Green (as they are supposedly prepared to do for Labour supporters in safe seats), you’re out of look.
Good whatever ... I had no idea we had 'pairing' schemes operating in this election. Anyone heard about this?

from BTL on LDV btw. http://www.libdemvoice.org/sal-brinton- ... 45568.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that's approved. A Tweet earlier said about tactical voting and the reply was instant dismissal from the party...I can't find the Tweet because I get literally thousands in a day.

I'm sure it wouldn't be approved. Just wondered if anyone had heard of this going on - under the counter, informally like.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:47 pm

emily m ‏@maitlis 8m8 minutes ago
We invited the political parties to join us but the Conservatives were unable to find anyone to speak on their welfare record. #newsnight

Try Nick Clegg Emily ... he might be really keen to do it.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:50 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused

Link to the #milifandom page
https://twitter.com/hashtag/milifandom?src=hash&lang=en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:51 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Andrew Neil ‏@afneil 7m7 minutes ago
Spoke to major Tory donor tonight. "Tory campaign useless. Cameron's heart not in it. Not looking good".

Angela Eagle retweeted
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 6m6 minutes ago
@afneil DC has wanted out for a while. He has just wanted to go out on some sort of high and hasn't been able to find that high.
Cripes.

Thought you might like to know that my cat just thanked you for the post!Didn't know she is into politics.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:52 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused

Explanation here. http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/th ... .euw04xkKg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Required reading for anyone feeling depressed.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:54 pm

Rebecca wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Andrew Neil ‏@afneil 7m7 minutes ago
Spoke to major Tory donor tonight. "Tory campaign useless. Cameron's heart not in it. Not looking good".

Angela Eagle retweeted
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 6m6 minutes ago
@afneil DC has wanted out for a while. He has just wanted to go out on some sort of high and hasn't been able to find that high.
Cripes.
Thought you might like to know that my cat just thanked you for the post!Didn't know she is into politics.

They're little .......ers, aren't they? My smallest varmint is squirming around on the desk as I type, smearing wet chops all over my mouse hand and turning caps lock on and off, on and off ...

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:56 pm

PorFavor wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute
I'm saying nothing. But I've now got "I've Got Rythym" playing in my head.

Oh thanks for going there. Now I've got Alan Clark in my head.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:02 pm

I like Ed for being so uncool he's cool. It's something I can aspire to.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:02 pm

gilsey wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused
Explanation here. http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/th ... .euw04xkKg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Required reading for anyone feeling depressed.

That's almost as funny as #cooledmiliband

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:03 pm

gilsey wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused
Explanation here. http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/th ... .euw04xkKg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Required reading for anyone feeling depressed.

Only teenage girls could create that; I wonder if everything really is fluffy and pink on their planet? I am now somewhat cheered up.

They are of course all slightly nuts.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:06 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Rachel Reeves ‏@RachelReevesMP 1 min1 minute ago

Incredible. Tonight's @BBCNewsnight welfare debate has just been cancelled because the Tories pulled out at the last minute

Who were they going to send? Grant V Shapps? Or the soon-to-be-unseated McVey?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:06 pm

Just seen a tweet that Tories are on 38% on tonight's YouGov.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:08 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Just seen a tweet that Tories are on 38% on tonight's YouGov.

Bollocks, but seems slightly unlikely. I guess we need to see the tables.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:09 pm

YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:09 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:NHS to 'extend rationing' of healthcare in bid to balance books
Survey of clinical commissioning group bosses reveals that smokers and obese people will be among those who could be denied surgery and other treatment

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... ance-books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:head in hands: ...

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:10 pm

Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:10 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

I'm off to bed. "Who Could Ask For Anything More?" Try not to have nightmares . . . .

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:10 pm

frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)

Well hardly that exiting!

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:11 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk
· 1h 1 hour ago
Thanks to #milifandom I’m getting RTs just for posting Ed Miliband photos. Wish I’d known I could’ve started in 2010

Is anyone following the #milifandom hashtag? It's gone crazy for Ed - not sure if its good or bad - I'm totally confused
Link to the #milifandom page
https://twitter.com/hashtag/milifandom?src=hash&lang=en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is all very interesting, as with the cool Miliband stuff that I posted a link to yesterday, this is the public creating this naturally and not the actions of PR firms that just can't 'force' opinion. It leaves me feeling positive that the MSM isn't as powerful as it thinks and outside the bubble people (and the youth here) are engaged in a more unhindered way (or at least reactive to the MSM's forced view).

All in all, good stuff.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:11 pm

danesclose wrote:Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)

@frightful Oik Snap!